653. Dowsing to Improve Your Life with Raymon Grace & Jeff Jones

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we're gonna go ahead and get started.

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Thank you all so much for being here.

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We are so excited to be hosting this,
this event for you, where you get

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the opportunity to talk, or to hear
from Raymond Grace and Jeff Jones.

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I'm your host, Kara Goodwin.

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I'm the host of the Soul Elevation
Podcast, and it really is my

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joy and honor to be here with
these incredible gentlemen.

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And before we get too, too far down
the, the road here, before we start, I

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just really wanna thank, um, Julianne,
who was a donor who made it possible

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for us to open this, this, um, Zoom up
to 1,000 participants, and I can see

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we've got hundreds more here on, uh,
YouTube, almost 100 more on YouTube.

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But, um, so grateful that she
was so thoughtful to do that for

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everybody so that we can have
so many people here joining us.

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Today we're gonna get a chance to
hear from Jeff and Raymond, and

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they have amazing stories to tell.

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What I love about these gentlemen is
that you're going to really expand

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your awareness of what is possible,
and this is really important.

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We're, we'll hear these stories that
blow, blow my mind, and we were just

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talking before we were starting, I really
want everybody to feel into this and

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understand that this is within you too.

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And, and that is what the, that's
the message that I know that they

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want to get through to everybody.

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So without further ado, because we do
have a short amount of time and we've got

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a special thing that we wanna present at
the end as well, um, I'm gonna hand this

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over to Raymond as soon as I read his
bio, although everybody knows Raymond.

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But, but bear with me.

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Just humor me, guys.

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So Raymond Grace has been promoting
dowsing with lectures, classes,

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books, newsletters, and films for
over 30 years in 160 countries.

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He managed this without a day of college
or a degree, and without a suit and tie.

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He has no titles or
letters after his name.

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He is blunt and down to earth.

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His motto is, "There is no substitute
for freedom." So Raymond, thank

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you so much for being here.

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Thank you for the invitation.

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And, uh, I wanna introduce Jeff.

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Uh, 30 years ago, I was doing a class.

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It was just, let's see… It was
in a fairly local class here.

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And, uh, at the time, I was teaching
for Jose Silva with Silva Mind Control.

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So I was teaching people how
to energize a glass of water.

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And I'll use my coffee cup here to,
uh, to demonstrate this, of holding

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it up in the air like this, right
above your forehead, and mentally

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putting energy, uh, in the water.

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Uh, well, I didn't know who Jeff was.

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He spoke up and he said, "Are
you putting energy in water?"

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And I said, "Well, yeah, I
think that's what I'm doing.

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I learned this from Jose Silva.

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He can do it.

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I can probably do it, too." And he
said, "Well, if you can put vitamins and

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minerals in the water…" No, excuse me.

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"If you can put energy in the water, I
can put vitamins and minerals in it."

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And I said, "I never thought of that."

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And all at once, the light went on.

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This guy is pretty sharp.

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So I got to talking to him after class,
he came to visit me, and, uh, we have

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toured all over most of the United States,
I guess, together at one time or another.

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Uh, he comes to most of the classes
that I do, and he is the way,

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what I would describe as the most
intelligent man I have ever met.

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And without saying anything else,
I'm gonna turn it over to Jeff.

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Well, thank you, Raymond.

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That was very, very kind, uh, as always.

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But, uh, uh, I really appreciate
the opportunity to be here, and, uh,

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hopefully tell you guys some stories
and things about how not only that I

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met Raymond, but how our lives have
been kind of interceding now for the

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past, I guess it's been 30 years.

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It's hard to believe it's been that long.

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Time flies sometimes.

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But, uh, as Raymond said, uh, I wanna
thank, uh, Tara for, also for having

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us here, and appreciate Raymond for
the opportunity to talk to you guys.

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But we're short on time, so I'll
try to get right into it, give you

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as much information as we can, and
hopefully, uh, see if we can expand

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your minds just a little bit about to
the possibilities that are out there.

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Not that we have some
superpowers and you can't do 'em.

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These same things, with practice you
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things or different things than we do.

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But like Raymond said, uh, he,
he taught, taught us to energize

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water, which he just showed you
the technique a little bit there.

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And when he was doing that, the
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vitamins and minerals- I was probably
considered one of the most allergic

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people on the planet the whole time
growing up and things of that nature.

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So I'd been on allergy shots twice a
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time I was four years old until then.

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And, uh, I was able to, uh, utilize those
techniques that Raymond was teaching

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with the water by putting the vitamins
and minerals in them, and a little

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bit later, to completely get off all
allergy medicines, to be able to wear

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blue jeans for the first time in my life
because the denim would break me out so

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bad, and that was the beginning of it.

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So you can obviously… I think
anybody hearing this would

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understand it really dramatically
changed my life at that point.

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So, uh, it was, uh, it was just one
of those eye-opening experiences

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that, that you, you… I'm sure
other people have different things in

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their lives the same way, but this,
this was my epiphany, if you will.

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So I started thinking- Well,
and so… Oh, sorry, Jeff.

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Yeah, no.

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You were going into that because I-
Yeah … wanted to know, like, how did,

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how did things progress from there?

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So, so after that, uh, after, after
that basics, I said, "What… I wonder

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what all we can do with this?" So I did.

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I started putting my vitamins
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My health improved.

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I said, "Well…" I wasn't in a very
good financial situation either.

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Uh, I was in a… I was, uh, in over
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a year, and anybody will tell you that
that formula does not add up for success.

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It just- Yeah … the, the money, the
money is just not there if you do that.

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So, uh, utilizing the water,
I started, uh, programming.

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The- these are using Raymond's
techniques that, that we learned.

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I started programming the water f- before
I was gonna have business meetings.

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So what I would do is energize the water
so that whatever business meeting I was

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going to have, the person I was gonna
meet, the salesperson, the, the, the

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person that was gonna be buying, just
whatever it would be, I would, in my mind,

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I would put the energy in the water that
we were gonna have a successful outcome.

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Then right before I went to
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part of that energized water.

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I would go to sleep, then usually at
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the morning, I would wake up And the
first couple of times I did it, I was

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like, "I don't know why I woke up."
But once you get in the routine of it,

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you realize when you wake up, you're
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So I would have that meeting in
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depending on what I wanted to do.

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I would drink a little bit of the water,
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Then when I woke up the next morning,
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the business meeting, and most of
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positive outcome, almost identical
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So I learned not only can we use
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use it for our financial and making
money in, in that, that way as well.

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So, uh, it was, uh, it was quite
interesting to experiment with things.

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Now, experimented with different
things that didn't work.

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I told you the things that did work.

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One time I, I was programming, and
this is why you have to be really

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careful, and this works very well with
dowsing, which Raymond also teaches

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that, that we've learned in his classes.

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If you come to one of his classes,
I think it would be the experience

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of a lifetime for you guys.

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You're gonna get more information than you
could ever, ever digest in the two days

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that you do it, and it's gonna leave you
going, "It can't be this easy," but it is.

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And it then it's, it's easy, but then
it, you work a lifetime to master it.

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So what I did was I misprogrammed, and
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So I said, "I need to program
for patience." And then I

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need to ask for patience.

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Biggest mistake I have made.

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Never ever, ever ask for more patience.

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Why?

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Oh.

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Because if you ask for more patience, what
does the universe have to provide you?

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They have to provide you situations
where you are going to use and

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learn to have more patience.

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In other words, you're gonna
invite problems into your life.

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So that took me a few months to
understand, and once I understood

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that- … I completely changed that.

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So don't make that mistake I did.

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Don't ask for patience.

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You know, you hear people say that
all the time, "I wish I had more

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patience." No, you don't want more
patience 'cause that gives you more

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problems, so, so, so don't do that.

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So be very careful what you program
and put into your own body as well.

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So that, that, that to me is something
that, that everybody needs to, to be

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real cognizant and real careful of.

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So- Oh my goodness.

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That, that's… I mean, I know it wasn't
funny as you went through it- Oh … but

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that's, that's pretty funny, you know?

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Well- Don't ask for patience
because then you get to practice.

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That's right.

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Be patient.

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And anything you, if you ask for.

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So ask for what's in your highest
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patience and it may not be, so you know.

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Yes.

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That, that sort of thing.

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So that was our, really our
beginning, was that class and

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learning to do that with Raymond.

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And then, uh, I was, uh, very fortunate.

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Uh, we, uh, we used to have, uh, this is
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and that the energy is now such that you
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to be able to do energy work or do things
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Uh, and when Raymond was on Coast to Coast
many years ago and energized a glass of

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water, I think he got feedback from…
Raymond, how many countries was it?

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I think it was, uh, 13 or 15 countries
just that one night where they could, uh,

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tell that you- I don't recall how many
we got that one night, but overall…

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Now, this took a few, uh, took, took
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reached about 150 countries.

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Now, isn't that, isn't
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Now, that doesn't mean we reached
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No, no.

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It means we reached at least o- a
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believe it was 160 countries, if- So-

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memory's not mistaken.

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Uh, but go, go ahead please.

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Yeah.

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But so up u- up until that time, we, we
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someone or try to do energy work with
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So this is kind of a strange story.

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I was supposed to be at Raymond's
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I was working in Kentucky that day.

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And, uh, I was about four and a
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and I got delayed a little bit
on the project I was working on.

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And I looked down at my
watch and it was 4:15.

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Well, I like to drive pretty fast and
have a history in my life of driving

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fast and, uh, meeting our friends
in blue, uh, with the appropriate

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tickets when I was doing that.

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And, and rightly so because
I used to drive very fast.

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I never considered myself
unsafe, but it was always fast.

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So there was a new four-lane road that
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that saved about an hour on the
trip, but it's still a long way away.

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Logically, that's the
road I should have taken.

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Well, one of the things that
I learned from Raymond was you

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always check which route is the
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The most appropriate route for me to
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And I was thinking, "This doesn't
make any logical sense, but here I

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go." So I got on the two-lane highway
and I'm driving, and I'm driving a

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little bit faster than you should be
on those mountain roads and things.

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But there's no way, you know, I'm going,
"I don't know how I'm gonna get there on

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time." I said, "I just gotta get there
in the most appropriate time I can." So

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I just set my sights on that, started
driving, kept driving, and I started

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going through some strange things.

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But now I don't know what part of the
country that, that the folks here are

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if they're from all over the country.

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But if you're not familiar
with it, Eastern Kentucky is a

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little bit of a different type
of animal to travel through.

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It, it just, it just is.

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There's all kinds of strange things
that happen in Eastern Kentucky.

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So I'm driving along and I turn
a corner and there's a lady

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getting out, uh, groceries out of
the rear, uh, trunk of her car.

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But she's got on this old style apron
like my grandmother used to wear and a

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bonnet like my grandmother used to wear,
and it was like a, a '50s model car.

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So the first time that happened
I was like, "Well," I didn't

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think a whole lot about it.

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I said, "You know, I'm in
Kentucky maybe, you know, it's,

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I'm in the backwoods kind of."

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Well, the… I kept… Everything
that I kept seeing there for about

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20 minutes on my drive was like that.

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Uh, no new modern cars, all older cars.

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People dressed in clothes the way
they did when I was real little and,

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uh, just, just really different.

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So still didn't think anything about it.

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So keep driving, driving, driving.

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Keep going and, uh, never looked at my
clock or a watch, anything like that

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until I turned into Raymond's driveway.

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I looked at my, uh, clock in the
car, uh, when I turned into Raymond's

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driveway, and it was dead on 6:00.

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Now, can I tell you how
I got there in that time?

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Can I tell you where I went?

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I really can't.

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I believe I went into some sort of
a time window or time delay, and

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I arrived there at the appropriate
time that I was supposed to be there.

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So this was gonna be a four-hour-
Four-hour drive … drive, and you

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left at- And it was an hour and a half.

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That's on- You left at-
That's on the fast road.

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That's on the fast road.

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So- And I took the slow
road … logically longer … and

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I got there in less than two hours.

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It's, it's just-
Wow … it was incredible.

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And, uh, so everything was
the way it was supposed to be.

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So- Yeah … now, I don't tell you
that because it happened to me.

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I mean, there's several instances
that, that we've had things like this

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happen, but I think when you start
living and pushing yourself to be at

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the appropriate place at the appropriate
time, really good things happen.

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Now, another line along that same
thing, I'm driving up the highway,

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uh, one early one morning, and
I get a phone call from Raymond.

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And, uh, he says, "Where are you?"
I said, "I'm on…" He s- he said-

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Sorry … I'm, no, no problem.

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He said, "I'm on…" I, I said,
"I'm on Interstate, uh, 77.

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I'm just getting ready
to go into the tunnel."

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He said, "Get off the road right now."
So I pulled over to the side of the road.

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He said that he did some more checking,
and he said, "Do you have another way you

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can go other than that highway?" I said,
"Yeah, but it's gonna add a little over

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two hours 'cause it's those same kind of
back roads that I was telling you about."

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This was West Virginia, Virginia and
West Virginia right through there.

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I said, "But it's still gonna add a little
over two hours." He said, "Get off and

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go the back way." I said, "Okay." So I
got off and went the back way, and, uh,

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didn't think anything else about it until
I got to the town that I was going to.

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And they asked me, said, "Well, we
thought you wouldn't, wouldn't be here."

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Said, "Why? What happened?" Well, there
was a tun- a tunnel collapse right

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there on 77, and, uh, if I had went
into the tunnel, I would've been caught

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in the tunnel, 'cause it was exactly
at the same time Raymond called me

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and told me to, to get off the road.

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I was in Florida at the time.

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I woke up that morning and something
said, "Call Jeff right now."

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I didn't really know why.

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I just said, "Jeff, where are
you?" "I'm starting to go in

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the tunnel." "Don't go there.

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Go f- go any other way, but don't
go through that tunnel." Uh, why?

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I can, I think I can tell you why.

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I had programmed myself, and you
can do the same thing, to be aware

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of any and all danger to myself,
family, friends, and avoid the danger.

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We can program our mind to do
whatever can, whatever we need to

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do, to be wherever we need to be.

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That's what Jeff did.

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He programmed his m- mind
to be at my place at 6:00.

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The fact that it was a
four-and-a-half-hour drive that he

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made in two hours were irrelevant.

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He was there at the time
he said he would be.

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Right.

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Well, when you say you program your mind,
h- how have you programmed your mind?

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All it is is an intention.

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Don't, don't complicate it.

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It's an intention.

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This is what I'm gonna do.

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Come hell or high water,
this is what I'm gonna do.

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So- No exceptions or, or, or,
uh, or, um, even recognized here.

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You gotta focus on, "This
is what I'm gonna do."

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So I feel like part of the reason
that that works so well for you,

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Raymond, is because you have such
a strong mind, and you show this

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in so many ways, so many aspects.

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So maybe, do you have more,
more to say about how-

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Well- … to strengthen the mind?

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Yeah.

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We have a choice.

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Believe we can or believe we can't.

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Which way you think we're gonna win?

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I love it.

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Yes.

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Either way, you're right, right?

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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That's- That's one of the things Raymond
always says in every class, and, and

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to me, that's the most, one of the,
the most brilliant sayings ever out

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there is, uh, you know, "You're, you're
absolutely correct either way." You know?

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You, you don't have to ask anybody.

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You're right, whatever
you believe, you know?

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Uh… So was there anything, Jeff,
in what you've learned from Raymond

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over the years that helped you to
strengthen that within yourself?

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Oh, absolutely.

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And, uh, I think that energizing the water
was the first step, but then I think in

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learning dowsing, I think dowsing is…

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that, that Raymond teaches in his class,
is a fantastic medium to, to do that, to

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strengthen the mind with, and to start
really building some, some, uh, successes

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and some confidence in yourself that,
that you're not just making this up.

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But some of the things, you know,
when you're doing this, you think,

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"Am I just making this up in my mind?"

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Well, yes, you are, 'cause you're
setting your own future, right?

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You… As you're making things up, if you
can visualize it, you know, every athlete,

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you know, every professional athlete,
I've worked with a few professional

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athletes on, on strengthening their mind.

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They visualize whatever it is,
the shot that they're going to be

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doing, their workout routine, the
weight w- they're gonna be lifting.

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You know, you think about it, it,
it, it's all controlled by the mind.

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It's all controlled by the mind.

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Everything is in control of your mind.

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So the… If you can get your brain
frequency to the, the stronger levels

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of mind, which Raymond talks about in
his class, and you start spending more

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time there, it's amazing the miracles
that start happening in your life.

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Now, the water is such a
powerful medium, though.

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The water itself, our bodies
are mostly water, right?

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So when we energize things, if we're gonna
energize, water's the natural thing to

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energize, because it gets into every cell
of your body, every pore, everything.

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Uh, we've had folks come to us
and talk to us about medications.

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I don't ever tell people
to stop their medications.

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That's up to them and their doctor.

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But what we have done to try to help
them, you know, if they choose to do

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that, that- that's all up to them.

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But what we do is we can program the water
And if I was on any medications, which

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I'm not, this is what I would do, is, uh,
I would program that water to minimize

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the side effects or completely eliminate
the side effects, and only allow the good

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positive things from that medicine that
would be useful to my body to come in.

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So just imagine if, if everyone out there
does that simple thing and starts working

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on their medications themselves, you never
know, their doctor may say, "Hey, now

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you're taking too much medication. You
can cut this back." Or, you know, maybe

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in best case circumstances, your body
doesn't need this medication anymore.

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You know, that's not for me to say,
you know, for each individual person.

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But I think it's incredible
the, the effects that it can

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have like that on those things.

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Well, and I'd, I'd love to…
I know that you talked about

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the energizing of the water.

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Maybe we can just do, like, a
little bit more of if you show

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people, uh, you know, how you do it.

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But also, I don't, I don't think you
mentioned, did you, that you've kind

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of lived off of this water now for…
Did you mention that and I missed it?

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I don't think I said that.

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Don't think he admitted it yet, but Jeff,
Jeff hasn't had a meal in over 30 years.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So.

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I mean, you guys.

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Yeah.

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It's, uh- You guys

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and I'm not, I'm not
skinny He doesn't eat.

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I'm not, I'm not, uh, I'm not frail.

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I'm, uh, I'm in, I have no medicines,
pretty good shape, you know, overall.

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So this water has not only sustained
you, like, you're not only just getting

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by and, like, surviving a little
bit on, on this energized water.

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I mean, you're thriving.

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You're a successful business person.

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Your, your mind is acute.

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You're, you know, you're healthy, all
of this, and it's because you learned

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how to energize this water, and you
have been living off of it for how long?

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Uh, 30 years that way, yeah.

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And, uh, it's- See, mind-blowing.

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Is everybody's mind getting blown?

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Just me?

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I told you it was gonna be interesting.

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It's, uh, it's, it's been interesting.

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You know, uh, I'll, uh, if, if I feel
like I'm needing salt or something,

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I've been with Raymond in Mexican
restaurants, I might eat a, I might

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put a lot of salt on a corn chip
or, you know, something like that.

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But, uh, uh, not saying that I haven't
put any food at all in my mouth, but

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it's not, uh, no, no vegetables, no
meats, no anything like that in, in,

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in, uh, well over 30 years, like I said.

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But for me, that was a joy, because
remember, I had so many allergies,

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I didn't like eating anyway.

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Other people get pleasure
from food, I don't.

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You know?

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I, I, I never… That's not been for me.

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My mother made chocolate pies when
I was a kid, and people would come

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from all over to eat my mother's
chocolate pies, and I, I never ate

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them because I was allergic to them.

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So, you know, it was something that
never was really programmed that

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I enjoyed food the way people do.

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I don't look at it as comfort, you know?

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Yeah.

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So I had a different perspective on it.

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So it was very natural for me.

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I wouldn't recommend it for people,
'cause most people like to eat, you know?

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Yeah.

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Well, and so- 'Cause you can get your
vitamins and minerals the same way from,

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from liquids, you know, from water.

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Right.

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Well, and so when you program and you
use… Because we show, you showed

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Raymond was doing this in the beginning,
just- Yeah, Raymond, the same way.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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This is the way we, we did it in
the beginning, was the, uh… You,

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you just have your thumbs there,
your fingers right there on it, and

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as Raymond said, you hold it up.

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And what I visualize is energy
coming down from the ethers into

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the top of my head, coming out my
third eye, and going into the water.

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That's, that's what I do.

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Now, and I did that for many years.

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And if you're intending- Jeff.

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You're intending all the
vitamins… Oh, go ahead, Raymond.

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Yeah, this is a good time to tell them
about when we were in New York with

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all the doctors and you took all the…

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00:25:42,066 --> 00:25:43,055
Well, no, you tell it.

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Okay.

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Well, well- Okay.

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I, I've been privileged in my life to be
Raymond's chauffeur a couple of times.

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He, uh, Raymond got invited to speak to
a very large group of, uh, America's,

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uh, highest echelon of doctors.

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There was a doctor there from, uh,
Johns Hopkins that had a back technique

442
00:26:07,255 --> 00:26:11,956
that, uh, he had invented that is
still not approved by the AMA that was

443
00:26:11,958 --> 00:26:15,417
solving probably 40% of all back issues.

444
00:26:16,067 --> 00:26:20,662
There was a heart surgeon there
from Boston Mass General, and, uh,

445
00:26:20,862 --> 00:26:27,391
he used enzyme CoQ10, uh, on, on
his cardiac patients for recovery.

446
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:31,900
Had, had the lowest, uh, rate
of, uh, death in, uh, heart

447
00:26:31,902 --> 00:26:33,663
surgeries in the United States.

448
00:26:34,047 --> 00:26:36,503
Just kinda giving you an idea
of some of the caliber of the

449
00:26:36,503 --> 00:26:38,095
doctors that are, that were there.

450
00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:41,070
And we roll in, and,
uh, they were very nice.

451
00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:43,371
Raymond was dressed very
nicely, like he is now.

452
00:26:43,558 --> 00:26:47,447
And, uh, you know, everyone had
their suits and coats on and things.

453
00:26:47,447 --> 00:26:51,251
And when, uh, they introduced him as
the speaker, they made accommodations

454
00:26:51,256 --> 00:26:52,524
for me as being his chauffeur.

455
00:26:52,803 --> 00:26:59,082
And, uh, uh, they, uh, uh, all of them
looked around at him like, "What is…

456
00:26:59,169 --> 00:27:04,541
You know, what are we gonna learn from
this guy?" So, uh, we, uh, they, it was,

457
00:27:04,561 --> 00:27:09,717
it was a really nice resort in upper
state New York, uh, extremely nice.

458
00:27:10,182 --> 00:27:13,414
And the- they served a
large prime rib dinner.

459
00:27:14,016 --> 00:27:19,719
And, uh, when they were putting the
prime rib on the plate, I, uh, I, I just

460
00:27:19,719 --> 00:27:24,152
simply said, "No, thank you." And, uh,
Raymond, Raymond was still eating some

461
00:27:24,152 --> 00:27:27,559
meat at that time, so I think he enjoyed
the dinner and the feed that they put on.

462
00:27:28,077 --> 00:27:31,916
And, uh, they asked me if I wanted
some wine, and I said, "Sure, I would,

463
00:27:31,961 --> 00:27:36,549
uh, like to have a glass of wine." And
very quietly, I, I, I was trying to

464
00:27:36,557 --> 00:27:41,130
be as quiet as I could, I just turned
to Raymond and said, "I like wine.

465
00:27:41,206 --> 00:27:45,245
I think I'll just take the alcohol
out of it," meaning my glass.

466
00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:50,162
Well, all of a sudden there were
snickers and laughs at the table.

467
00:27:50,723 --> 00:27:57,009
And so, uh, instead of just taking
it out of the glass, took the alcohol

468
00:27:57,010 --> 00:28:02,585
out of the whole bottle, and it was,
uh, 120- … at that time $125 French

469
00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:07,036
Bordeaux, and, uh, there was a lot
of people that had, were very unhappy

470
00:28:07,037 --> 00:28:08,747
with that at the, at our dinner table.

471
00:28:09,345 --> 00:28:10,581
So, it was kind of funny.

472
00:28:10,925 --> 00:28:14,156
So you did the opposite of Jesus.

473
00:28:14,582 --> 00:28:19,359
You t- you instead of turning water
into wine- Yeah, I- … you turned

474
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,565
pretty much- I just, we just, we
just took the alcohol out- I just

475
00:28:21,565 --> 00:28:22,464
water … or limited the alcohol.

476
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:24,994
Yeah, he- Turned it back into grape
juice … he took that expensive wine

477
00:28:24,994 --> 00:28:26,681
and turned it back into grape juice.

478
00:28:29,053 --> 00:28:29,906
Oh, my goodness.

479
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:31,633
So, but now this- Life's been interesting.

480
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:34,311
It really has … now this is,
now this is the most important

481
00:28:34,311 --> 00:28:35,913
part of that whole ordeal, though

482
00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:44,410
Raymond, before he left, worked
on… Now, this was not a huge group.

483
00:28:44,483 --> 00:28:47,957
I think there's maybe 150,
200, 150 people may- there.

484
00:28:48,268 --> 00:28:55,669
He worked on every single one of the
participants' children and grandchildren.

485
00:28:56,980 --> 00:29:01,702
But do you know that none of those
medical professionals at that time

486
00:29:02,029 --> 00:29:04,344
were ready to have him work on them?

487
00:29:05,856 --> 00:29:10,609
Really And just think about how
our paradigms are as people, okay?

488
00:29:11,014 --> 00:29:15,434
They had invested so much into their
education, their training, and everything

489
00:29:15,434 --> 00:29:21,678
else, that they were looking for
alternative help for their family and

490
00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:24,323
their grandkids, but not for themselves.

491
00:29:24,757 --> 00:29:29,393
So I think as, as you, you do things
like this, it's kind of interesting.

492
00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:34,081
Some people are ready, you know, for, to
want to look at something differently.

493
00:29:34,562 --> 00:29:37,314
And, you know, we all get
vested in our own lives, right?

494
00:29:37,366 --> 00:29:41,437
I mean, the hardest thing for me was
to forget that I had been a trained

495
00:29:41,437 --> 00:29:44,780
scientist at one point in time, you
know, many years ago in my life.

496
00:29:45,194 --> 00:29:46,837
That slowed me down for two years.

497
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,031
That's why it took me two
years to learn the dowels.

498
00:29:49,036 --> 00:29:52,031
It didn't, it didn't come… That
stuff didn't come easy at all.

499
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:58,101
But, uh, today, people going through
Raymond's classes, 99% of them get it

500
00:29:58,224 --> 00:30:00,424
within two days, which is fantastic.

501
00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:05,689
So it- it's, it's really elevating the,
uh… In my opinion, it's elevating the

502
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:08,709
quality of people that we see out here.

503
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:11,813
It's, uh, people's
consciousness are going up.

504
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:15,875
And, uh, incidentally, there's
a lot more men interested in

505
00:30:15,876 --> 00:30:17,275
this now than there used to be.

506
00:30:17,689 --> 00:30:21,666
Raymond's classes 10 years ago,
he might have two or three, two

507
00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,126
people in it that, that are men.

508
00:30:23,644 --> 00:30:27,492
Now, somewhere between 20 and
30% of some classes are men.

509
00:30:27,704 --> 00:30:29,213
It's really encouraging, you know?

510
00:30:29,213 --> 00:30:33,217
That, that- Yeah … you know, women,
women by and large do this more

511
00:30:33,218 --> 00:30:39,772
naturally than men do because women's
intuition, women know when their children

512
00:30:39,773 --> 00:30:41,462
are hurting and things like that.

513
00:30:41,805 --> 00:30:44,388
They're, they're doing the exact
same things we're talking about.

514
00:30:44,689 --> 00:30:49,789
It's just putting a form to it and
being able to try to do it more often

515
00:30:49,791 --> 00:30:51,668
than just those happenstance things.

516
00:30:51,791 --> 00:30:54,024
So- Mm-hmm … you know, to
me that, that's kinda the

517
00:30:54,026 --> 00:30:55,559
interesting part of where we are.

518
00:30:56,006 --> 00:30:57,287
But, uh- Yeah … yeah.

519
00:30:57,322 --> 00:31:00,613
So any time I can go be Raymond's
chauffeur, I'm glad to do that.

520
00:31:00,623 --> 00:31:03,781
That's, the- those are- … those, those
events are always lots of fun, you know?

521
00:31:05,267 --> 00:31:06,166
I love that.

522
00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:12,071
Well, and so, you know, we've talked a
lot about the intention and how important

523
00:31:12,071 --> 00:31:17,805
that is, and I know that we don't
wanna make things really complicated.

524
00:31:17,883 --> 00:31:21,598
You know, that's one of the,
Raymond's messages is, like, it

525
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,158
doesn't have to be complicated.

526
00:31:23,158 --> 00:31:24,246
We keep it simple.

527
00:31:24,913 --> 00:31:29,951
And if people are listening and they're
like, "I wanna make sure I energize

528
00:31:29,951 --> 00:31:34,563
my water. I wanna add vitamins and
minerals," like, are you being really

529
00:31:34,567 --> 00:31:40,403
specific about the things… Like,
either whether it's the vitamins and

530
00:31:40,403 --> 00:31:45,226
minerals in your water, or if it's like
the story that you told with the, the

531
00:31:45,228 --> 00:31:47,463
business meeting and kind of- Well-

532
00:31:47,463 --> 00:31:48,686
visualizing that.

533
00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:51,064
It- Where is the line there?

534
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:56,133
In, in the, in the early days, in, in
my early days, I would try to be more

535
00:31:56,135 --> 00:31:57,993
specific like you're talking about.

536
00:31:58,835 --> 00:32:05,135
But I found out that slows you down even
more So what I do is I say, "I wanna

537
00:32:05,141 --> 00:32:11,812
energize this." F- a- and frankly now,
I have a, a preset program put in place

538
00:32:11,815 --> 00:32:16,689
that when I touch water, when I touch the
glass, it energizes it on its own now.

539
00:32:17,045 --> 00:32:20,103
So, but, but I didn't get
here doing that overnight.

540
00:32:20,484 --> 00:32:25,006
But when y- when… If I was starting out
again today, I would do the same thing.

541
00:32:25,532 --> 00:32:31,301
I would say very simply, "Please put
all the vitamins, minerals, nutrients,

542
00:32:31,751 --> 00:32:37,635
and any other compounds that my
body needs for a 24-hour period in

543
00:32:37,635 --> 00:32:42,957
this water." And then I simply say,
"Thank you, thank you, thank you."

544
00:32:43,684 --> 00:32:47,245
And then I'm thanking it
because it's already done.

545
00:32:47,711 --> 00:32:50,021
I'm not asking for it to be put in.

546
00:32:50,065 --> 00:32:52,808
I'm thanking it for already being there.

547
00:32:53,189 --> 00:32:55,028
Do, do, do you hear what I'm saying there?

548
00:32:55,501 --> 00:32:56,075
Yeah.

549
00:32:56,075 --> 00:33:00,468
Instead of, instead of saying, "I
don't have it. Put it in." Mm. I'm

550
00:33:00,468 --> 00:33:02,983
giving thanks then for it being there.

551
00:33:04,049 --> 00:33:05,059
I love that.

552
00:33:05,059 --> 00:33:05,075
Okay?

553
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,382
Raymond, do you have
anything to add to that?

554
00:33:08,172 --> 00:33:08,613
No.

555
00:33:08,660 --> 00:33:11,031
He done a better job than anyone I know.

556
00:33:11,031 --> 00:33:11,041
No.

557
00:33:12,011 --> 00:33:12,700
Leave it alone.

558
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,148
But, but it- Is there anything that
comes to mind for you, Raymond, in terms

559
00:33:17,148 --> 00:33:22,515
of how, how you get your intentions
to be so strong that they come through

560
00:33:22,516 --> 00:33:24,727
so strongly into the physical world?

561
00:33:25,357 --> 00:33:28,403
Mm. Failure is not an option.

562
00:33:29,106 --> 00:33:29,551
Mm.

563
00:33:31,682 --> 00:33:34,510
I do everything simple Well- Real simple

564
00:33:34,510 --> 00:33:39,087
we're, we're not really good at
handing out participation trophies.

565
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:44,826
That's as, that's as kind as
I know how to put that, okay?

566
00:33:46,261 --> 00:33:47,286
I love that.

567
00:33:47,327 --> 00:33:47,873
I love it.

568
00:33:48,368 --> 00:33:55,089
Okay, so you shared that amazing
story about basically bending time,

569
00:33:55,527 --> 00:33:58,601
and, and that was in Kentucky.

570
00:33:58,602 --> 00:34:02,729
I think there's another story like
this r- Yeah … to do with Arkansas?

571
00:34:03,008 --> 00:34:03,497
Yep.

572
00:34:03,497 --> 00:34:04,031
Yeah, yeah.

573
00:34:04,081 --> 00:34:04,864
Yeah, there's a- Okay.

574
00:34:04,864 --> 00:34:06,596
How would you- You wanna tell,
tell that one, Raymond, or

575
00:34:06,596 --> 00:34:06,915
you want me to tell that one?

576
00:34:06,915 --> 00:34:08,330
No, if y- it's, it's your show.

577
00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:08,945
You go ahead and tell it.

578
00:34:09,838 --> 00:34:10,243
Well, no.

579
00:34:10,243 --> 00:34:14,738
Well, the, uh, Raymond and I and, uh,
a friend of ours who is now on the

580
00:34:14,739 --> 00:34:21,075
other side, uh, she was an accountant,
and, uh, we were going to the Ozark

581
00:34:21,138 --> 00:34:23,512
Research Institute in Arkansas.

582
00:34:23,542 --> 00:34:24,748
Raymond was speaking there.

583
00:34:25,306 --> 00:34:31,711
And, uh, we were driving my vehicle, so
our accountant buddy decided that, you

584
00:34:31,712 --> 00:34:35,377
know, she's keeping all the records so
we can divide the gas and everything up.

585
00:34:35,974 --> 00:34:41,324
So we, we take off, we get down there,
trip's going well, we had a really good

586
00:34:41,324 --> 00:34:43,653
conference, and we're on our way back.

587
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:50,366
And on our way back we started talking
about, uh, time travel, time windows.

588
00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:55,778
You know, when you're in a car with,
with people that, that are thinkers

589
00:34:55,778 --> 00:34:58,894
that are outside the box, you know,
you're always talking, sharing things.

590
00:34:59,193 --> 00:35:02,675
So we started talking about
that, wondering how and why.

591
00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:06,238
You know, why it works sometimes,
why it doesn't work other times.

592
00:35:06,252 --> 00:35:08,879
You know, just general,
general conversation.

593
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,437
And, uh, we needed to stop,
and one… I don't remember who

594
00:35:12,437 --> 00:35:13,407
needed to go to the restroom.

595
00:35:13,408 --> 00:35:15,092
We needed to go to the
restroom, so we stop.

596
00:35:15,544 --> 00:35:22,898
We pull off this exit- And it's an
old-looking service station that still

597
00:35:22,899 --> 00:35:27,010
had an attendant that wore the hat
and would come out and, uh, wipe the

598
00:35:27,011 --> 00:35:29,089
windshield off your cars and things.

599
00:35:29,733 --> 00:35:32,116
And, uh, it was just very, very strange.

600
00:35:32,225 --> 00:35:40,279
So we, uh, get back on the road, and we're
going through these river-type things.

601
00:35:40,279 --> 00:35:43,392
You know how when you go across
a river you'll see smoke and,

602
00:35:43,402 --> 00:35:45,076
and things just kind of come up?

603
00:35:46,036 --> 00:35:50,411
Well, we would just see this on the side
of the road for, for no reason at all.

604
00:35:50,414 --> 00:35:51,637
There wasn't water near it.

605
00:35:51,637 --> 00:35:52,466
There wasn't anything.

606
00:35:52,957 --> 00:35:55,646
And we would just pass through
and pass through and pass through.

607
00:35:56,572 --> 00:36:03,193
Well, after we'd stopped at this service
station, and we stopped to get gas one

608
00:36:03,193 --> 00:36:10,744
more time, we get back, our friend Ronnie
starts adding everything up, and she

609
00:36:10,746 --> 00:36:12,819
has this very strange look in her eye.

610
00:36:12,845 --> 00:36:15,732
She said, "Something
happened on our way back."

611
00:36:17,074 --> 00:36:21,388
And, uh, Raven said, "What are you talking
about? Nothing happened," you know?

612
00:36:21,972 --> 00:36:27,778
And she goes, "Something happened." And
we said, "Well, what was it?" So she

613
00:36:27,788 --> 00:36:37,696
said, "We used half a tank less gas,
and we drove 115 less miles." So- I was

614
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:41,988
gonna say two hours less time … and
two hours less time to get back.

615
00:36:43,011 --> 00:36:49,492
And, and so, uh, we realized obviously
we must have went through some sort

616
00:36:49,493 --> 00:36:55,129
of time window, and when we stopped at
that service station, it was really odd.

617
00:36:55,993 --> 00:36:58,989
We've been back three more times
that I've been with Raymond.

618
00:36:58,990 --> 00:37:02,808
I don't know how many times he's tried,
but we've stopped at that same exit

619
00:37:02,814 --> 00:37:06,812
three more times, and I'm telling you,
that service station is not there.

620
00:37:07,076 --> 00:37:07,999
It is not there.

621
00:37:08,265 --> 00:37:10,319
We can't figure out where we stopped.

622
00:37:10,335 --> 00:37:11,868
We don't know where it was.

623
00:37:12,443 --> 00:37:14,580
But it was very interesting.

624
00:37:14,877 --> 00:37:19,313
We knew something was a little bit amiss,
but we still don't know the lesson that

625
00:37:19,313 --> 00:37:22,519
we learned from that 'cause we haven't
been able to repeat it, you know, on time.

626
00:37:22,782 --> 00:37:24,323
But we can tell you it's very interesting.

627
00:37:25,856 --> 00:37:27,962
I wanna go on a road trip with you guys.

628
00:37:28,803 --> 00:37:30,060
Let's, let's do it.

629
00:37:30,717 --> 00:37:33,988
Well, there, there were no dull
trips, I'll put it that way.

630
00:37:33,988 --> 00:37:34,586
Yeah.

631
00:37:34,603 --> 00:37:39,053
Well, and, uh, o- one thing I wanna
tell you though is, uh, you know, we

632
00:37:39,058 --> 00:37:43,415
were talking about, you know, time
difference, the way the universe works.

633
00:37:43,431 --> 00:37:47,199
Well, coincidence is always something
that, that happened to me very,

634
00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:49,031
very early when I met Raymond.

635
00:37:50,318 --> 00:37:54,927
And, uh, this, this kinda blows my mind
still to this day when I think about it

636
00:37:55,269 --> 00:38:00,770
because, uh, I, uh, I, I thought since
I'd gotten to know Raymond a little

637
00:38:00,770 --> 00:38:05,563
bit and, uh, he invited me to go to
Canada with him, uh, I thought he should

638
00:38:05,564 --> 00:38:08,495
meet my parents so they would know at
least who I'm traveling with 'cause

639
00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:10,056
everybody thought I'd lost my mind.

640
00:38:10,358 --> 00:38:15,107
I'd never taken two weeks off from
work in my life, and, uh, I just said,

641
00:38:15,108 --> 00:38:17,951
"Yeah, I'm taking two weeks off from
work. I'm going with this guy up into

642
00:38:17,952 --> 00:38:20,792
the backwoods in Canada, and we're
gonna be camping. I don't know where

643
00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:24,253
we're going or what we're gonna get
into, but I'm going with him," you know?

644
00:38:24,813 --> 00:38:29,543
And so I brought him over to meet my
mom and dad, and, uh, Raymond walks in

645
00:38:29,546 --> 00:38:32,921
the door, and my dad's sitting in the
living room, and he gets up and says

646
00:38:32,923 --> 00:38:36,121
hello, and Raymond freezes right there.

647
00:38:36,217 --> 00:38:40,445
And I can see the hair on
Raymond's arms standing up.

648
00:38:40,445 --> 00:38:41,097
It's in the summer.

649
00:38:41,097 --> 00:38:42,323
He's got on a short-sleeved shirt.

650
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:44,835
I can see the hair
standing up on his arms.

651
00:38:45,568 --> 00:38:49,998
And he asked my dad, he said,
"Were you in the Army?" And my dad

652
00:38:49,998 --> 00:38:55,359
said, "23 years." And, uh, Raymond
goes, "You were my first sergeant."

653
00:38:59,062 --> 00:39:00,520
I never forgot that voice.

654
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,784
So- He had the mo- So- That man had
the most unique voice, and as soon

655
00:39:02,786 --> 00:39:06,555
as I heard him, I was like, "Uh-oh,
I, I remember who that guy was." So,

656
00:39:06,682 --> 00:39:12,988
so how in the world of all of the
people, you, you think about that, the

657
00:39:12,989 --> 00:39:16,850
coincidences that have to line up, the
stars that have to line up, however

658
00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:19,011
you wanna put it, for that to happen.

659
00:39:19,319 --> 00:39:23,916
So when things start happening
like that in your life, you know

660
00:39:23,918 --> 00:39:25,710
you're on the right track, you know?

661
00:39:25,842 --> 00:39:27,043
You know you're on the right track.

662
00:39:27,043 --> 00:39:27,053
Yes.

663
00:39:27,157 --> 00:39:30,905
So that was another- Oh, wow … we
don't have enough time to go into that

664
00:39:30,913 --> 00:39:34,532
trip, but that was a life-changing
trip, again, for both of us.

665
00:39:34,533 --> 00:39:38,190
That was another … We met
some incredible people and some

666
00:39:38,526 --> 00:39:42,376
incredible spirits and things up
there that were just fantastic.

667
00:39:42,376 --> 00:39:47,203
So, uh, uh, I thought that might be very
interesting to, to some of your- Yes

668
00:39:47,214 --> 00:39:48,765
… your, the folks out there, you know?

669
00:39:49,194 --> 00:39:54,914
And, uh- I mean, these are, are … D-
now I hope everybody's starting to feel

670
00:39:54,914 --> 00:40:01,449
this, like, how expansive, you know,
the things that we think are impossible.

671
00:40:01,594 --> 00:40:05,137
And the, these are not all of
the stories that there are.

672
00:40:05,137 --> 00:40:05,148
Right.

673
00:40:05,148 --> 00:40:10,297
These are just … There was another
one, um, that I was interested

674
00:40:10,299 --> 00:40:14,799
in, in if you wanna share to do
with finding a piece of equipment?

675
00:40:14,888 --> 00:40:15,136
Yeah.

676
00:40:15,136 --> 00:40:15,146
Yeah.

677
00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:17,525
Well, that was the one, that was the one
I was- That's definitely- I, that was

678
00:40:17,525 --> 00:40:20,497
gonna be the last one that I was gonna
really go to, and that, that's perfect.

679
00:40:20,507 --> 00:40:21,635
Perfect timing on that.

680
00:40:21,638 --> 00:40:22,880
So- Okay … yeah.

681
00:40:22,907 --> 00:40:26,611
So I, I told, I already told you guys
I was in a little bit of financial

682
00:40:26,612 --> 00:40:28,408
problems, and I needed to make some money.

683
00:40:28,428 --> 00:40:33,821
So, uh, uh, I had a company that
I was working with for years.

684
00:40:33,908 --> 00:40:38,343
Uh, my contract was not renewed
in the right way, so I didn't have

685
00:40:38,345 --> 00:40:42,699
an opportunity to purchase it, and
so I found myself without, without

686
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:44,747
employment on that particular end.

687
00:40:45,265 --> 00:40:49,427
So, uh, I talked to Raymond and I said,
"I'm thinking about starting another,

688
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,703
another company doing this, but I don't
have the money for the equipment." And,

689
00:40:54,704 --> 00:40:57,719
uh, he said, "How much do you need?"
I said, "It's probably gonna be about

690
00:40:57,802 --> 00:41:04,068
f- between 350 to 500,000, depending."
Remember, I'm making $10,000 a year.

691
00:41:04,817 --> 00:41:08,009
So he said, "What's the m- what's
the piece you really need?"

692
00:41:08,009 --> 00:41:14,015
I said, "Well, I can hi- uh, w- contract
out everything else, but I need this

693
00:41:14,241 --> 00:41:19,338
special piece of metal that, that works
on this, this piping." And he said,

694
00:41:19,340 --> 00:41:24,117
"Well, I think I can help you find one."
I said, "Great." So there was only two

695
00:41:24,117 --> 00:41:26,279
of these in existence that I know of.

696
00:41:26,321 --> 00:41:29,021
One was in McPherson, Kansas,
and one was in Alabama.

697
00:41:29,036 --> 00:41:29,901
Montgomery, Alabama.

698
00:41:30,862 --> 00:41:34,419
And, uh, 'cause I had made one of them and
another competitor had made another one.

699
00:41:35,418 --> 00:41:40,531
So here's my instruction from
Raymond: "Go to Winston-Salem, North

700
00:41:40,531 --> 00:41:46,421
Carolina, get on this highway, and
drive till you see something unusual."

701
00:41:49,845 --> 00:41:52,680
I'm like, "Okay." So here's what I do.

702
00:41:52,709 --> 00:41:55,355
I get over there, I'm
driving, driving, driving.

703
00:41:56,112 --> 00:41:59,882
30 minutes on this road,
I am driving around.

704
00:41:59,913 --> 00:42:02,040
I'm looking for something
out of the ordinary.

705
00:42:02,045 --> 00:42:02,652
You know what I mean?

706
00:42:02,655 --> 00:42:06,339
Something that has a neon sign
that says, "Here, eat at Joe's,"

707
00:42:06,339 --> 00:42:07,368
or, you know, whatever it was.

708
00:42:07,689 --> 00:42:08,255
Nothing.

709
00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:09,697
I call Raymond.

710
00:42:09,697 --> 00:42:11,178
I pull off the side of
the road, I call Raymond.

711
00:42:11,178 --> 00:42:13,938
I said, "Raymond, are you sure this
is the right road?" He said, "Yeah,

712
00:42:13,938 --> 00:42:15,182
I get this is the right road."

713
00:42:17,977 --> 00:42:24,408
So I said, "Okay." I keep going about
another 20 minutes, and I'm not kidding

714
00:42:24,408 --> 00:42:30,341
you, the, the house looked normal, but
there was a barn right beside this house.

715
00:42:30,952 --> 00:42:33,127
It didn't have flashing neon on it.

716
00:42:33,161 --> 00:42:35,239
It just looked unusual.

717
00:42:35,269 --> 00:42:36,231
It looked different.

718
00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:38,145
It caught my attention.

719
00:42:38,145 --> 00:42:41,371
I said, "Well, okay, let's give
it a try." Never done anything

720
00:42:41,372 --> 00:42:43,355
like this before in my life, okay?

721
00:42:43,741 --> 00:42:46,323
Roll up to the guy's
house, knock on the door.

722
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:51,267
"I know this is gonna probably sound
a little strange, but do you have any

723
00:42:51,279 --> 00:42:55,673
surplus metal or any used metal pieces
that you might be willing to sell?"

724
00:42:57,007 --> 00:43:01,557
"Well, yeah, as a matter of fact, I got
a barn full over here." I said, "Well,

725
00:43:01,557 --> 00:43:07,094
would you mind if we took a look?" So he
opened the barn up, we looked through,

726
00:43:07,852 --> 00:43:10,056
get to the very back corner of the barn

727
00:43:12,288 --> 00:43:17,278
sitting in the back corner of the barn,
looks brand new, no scratches on it,

728
00:43:17,278 --> 00:43:22,108
doesn't look like it's ever been used, is
this exact piece of tooling that I need

729
00:43:22,143 --> 00:43:24,197
that in my mind I know doesn't exist.

730
00:43:24,473 --> 00:43:25,827
But here it is, I'm looking at it.

731
00:43:26,935 --> 00:43:31,796
I bought it for under $5,000 and was
able to start another company, and that's

732
00:43:31,796 --> 00:43:36,180
one of the things that was able to help
me, you know, continue to get on my

733
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:37,968
financial feet and out of this thing.

734
00:43:38,483 --> 00:43:44,915
But can you believe- So you had, you had
estimated it would be 350 to $500,000- Yes

735
00:43:45,145 --> 00:43:45,528
to get this.

736
00:43:45,528 --> 00:43:47,208
To make this, to make this piece.

737
00:43:47,626 --> 00:43:48,159
Right.

738
00:43:48,204 --> 00:43:49,319
And then- It was very special.

739
00:43:49,321 --> 00:43:51,811
It was intricate, and
there was only two of them.

740
00:43:51,811 --> 00:43:54,917
It w- there was only one place
in the whole United States that

741
00:43:54,918 --> 00:43:55,815
I knew that could make them.

742
00:43:56,531 --> 00:44:01,978
And so Raymond helped you to
zero in on this barn that just

743
00:44:01,989 --> 00:44:07,159
looked unusual, and then it was in
there and you got it for $5,000.

744
00:44:07,179 --> 00:44:08,356
And I, under, under.

745
00:44:08,423 --> 00:44:09,803
But I believe Ray- Under 5,000.

746
00:44:09,803 --> 00:44:12,987
I believe, I believe Raymond
manifested it with his mind.

747
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,300
Oh.

748
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:16,641
I was not able to do that at that point.

749
00:44:16,660 --> 00:44:21,008
I believe he manifested it and put
it in there and, and for me to find.

750
00:44:21,443 --> 00:44:22,356
That's what I believe.

751
00:44:22,588 --> 00:44:24,466
I can't prove that, but
that's what I believe.

752
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:26,707
Wow.

753
00:44:26,733 --> 00:44:27,663
Is that not interesting?

754
00:44:29,173 --> 00:44:30,954
I just, I think that's really incredible.

755
00:44:31,003 --> 00:44:32,031
You know, it's really incredible.

756
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,434
That's amazing.

757
00:44:33,448 --> 00:44:39,843
So, so I, I think the whole point is
whatever you think is impossible, it is.

758
00:44:40,782 --> 00:44:41,035
Yeah.

759
00:44:41,504 --> 00:44:41,915
Right?

760
00:44:42,729 --> 00:44:47,465
But, but, uh, seriously, uh, the last
thing I wanna even touch on for just a

761
00:44:47,466 --> 00:44:51,619
quick minute and then, uh, uh, is dowsing.

762
00:44:52,261 --> 00:44:54,340
Because dowsing, it…

763
00:44:54,447 --> 00:44:58,913
After energizing the water,
dowsing is the modality to me

764
00:44:58,916 --> 00:45:00,674
that brings everything together.

765
00:45:01,281 --> 00:45:08,057
Uh, and whether you're a scientist,
uh, a body worker, you, you're a, a

766
00:45:08,057 --> 00:45:13,760
professional athlete or whatever it is,
I believe that's the one, uh, modality

767
00:45:13,785 --> 00:45:17,653
that if you can get a very good teacher
that will teach you, it's not just

768
00:45:17,653 --> 00:45:19,625
finding water with a forked stick.

769
00:45:19,932 --> 00:45:24,551
There's so many possibilities out
there, and I would highly recommend

770
00:45:24,553 --> 00:45:28,909
to everybody to check out Raymond's
videos that he has out on these things.

771
00:45:29,244 --> 00:45:33,929
And, uh, if you have an opportunity,
seriously, I would, I would consider

772
00:45:33,929 --> 00:45:35,240
coming to one of his classes.

773
00:45:35,668 --> 00:45:40,080
N- you can get the information,
but some of the interaction that's

774
00:45:40,098 --> 00:45:43,990
in person, the, to feel the energy
in the room, to feel the energy

775
00:45:43,991 --> 00:45:46,483
change with the whole group, it's…

776
00:45:46,495 --> 00:45:48,377
They're, they're quite
unusual experiences.

777
00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:53,224
So, uh, I would highly recommend and
advise anybody that's interested in that

778
00:45:53,229 --> 00:45:57,670
to, uh, to really take a, take a few
minutes and see if one of his classes

779
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:59,275
might be in your future, you know?

780
00:45:59,550 --> 00:45:59,729
Yes, absolutely.

781
00:45:59,729 --> 00:46:02,732
But study some of his stuff first so
you got a little bit of a background.

782
00:46:03,113 --> 00:46:06,927
It, it just makes it easier on
you, because he, he does not

783
00:46:06,928 --> 00:46:08,546
teach like other people teach.

784
00:46:08,547 --> 00:46:10,681
He doesn't teach for an
hour and you get one tidbit.

785
00:46:11,987 --> 00:46:16,204
He, he… You will be so inundated
with information that you'll, you'll

786
00:46:16,204 --> 00:46:19,365
have to digest it and come back and,
and, and really think it through.

787
00:46:19,693 --> 00:46:21,109
It's… He, he gives, he- Well-

788
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:23,118
he throws out a lot in
a short period of time.

789
00:46:23,823 --> 00:46:28,627
And you mentioned, like, he has these
resources as well, the videos that

790
00:46:28,627 --> 00:46:30,429
he has, and I have a baby story.

791
00:46:30,430 --> 00:46:34,548
I've, like… Jeff, it's really hard
to come in- Yeah … and on the heels

792
00:46:34,579 --> 00:46:38,413
of these stories that you have and try
to contribute something meaningful, but

793
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,422
I'll just share my little baby story.

794
00:46:40,843 --> 00:46:43,649
It, like, you know, you've
got this huge mountain.

795
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:51,337
But, um, I have a, w- this particular
video of Raymond's that I was using for,

796
00:46:51,356 --> 00:46:55,674
um… It was the change your energy,
change the energy, change your life.

797
00:46:56,115 --> 00:47:00,648
And- One day I just felt
inspired to put that on.

798
00:47:00,686 --> 00:47:04,087
I h- hadn't been talk- I don't think
I'd been talking to Raymond or anything,

799
00:47:04,088 --> 00:47:08,159
I just, I wanted to use it for my
kids' school and my son's university.

800
00:47:08,607 --> 00:47:12,013
And, um, so I just had it
going in the background.

801
00:47:12,014 --> 00:47:16,079
I had somebody coming over that I w-
you know, to do something in the house,

802
00:47:16,092 --> 00:47:19,604
and I was like, "Oh, I'll keep it low so
that, you know, he'll j- it'll just play

803
00:47:19,605 --> 00:47:23,886
in the background with that intention
for the kids' schools." And I come back

804
00:47:23,886 --> 00:47:29,139
to my computer and I have an email from
somebody I've never gotten an email

805
00:47:29,143 --> 00:47:35,324
from before who had heard Raymond on
my podcast, and was specifically asking

806
00:47:35,594 --> 00:47:42,930
how Raymond clears schools, as though
I would be the pers- you know, I, I had

807
00:47:43,067 --> 00:47:45,340
hosted him but I am not him, you know.

808
00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:49,336
So I, I'm like, "Well, I mean, you'd have
to be inside his head to know exactly

809
00:47:49,337 --> 00:47:53,347
how he does it." But he's got this video,
and by the way, I'm listening to this

810
00:47:53,357 --> 00:47:55,834
video exactly when I just got your email.

811
00:47:56,853 --> 00:48:00,292
So, and again, it was, this was
not somebody who I even knew, and

812
00:48:00,294 --> 00:48:04,322
they, the timing was just exactly
perfect because I'm hearing…

813
00:48:04,546 --> 00:48:10,864
And it was down to even the question that
she asked, Raymond was answering it in the

814
00:48:10,865 --> 00:48:14,422
video where he was going into more depth.

815
00:48:14,442 --> 00:48:18,122
Because I'm thinking to myself, "Oh, I
can't wait to respond to this and say,

816
00:48:18,682 --> 00:48:21,788
'You wouldn't believe I'm listening to
this video.'" And then as I'm listening to

817
00:48:21,789 --> 00:48:23,843
it he's going, "And if you wanna know…"

818
00:48:23,845 --> 00:48:26,857
I can't remember exactly how he said
it, but something to the effect of,

819
00:48:26,858 --> 00:48:31,327
"If you wanna know how we do this."
And I'm like, "How does he know?

820
00:48:31,327 --> 00:48:34,408
He recorded this like however many
years ago," "And he's answering

821
00:48:34,408 --> 00:48:36,585
this question in 2026," you know?

822
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:38,267
Coincidence.

823
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:39,588
Right.

824
00:48:39,622 --> 00:48:40,393
Coincidence.

825
00:48:40,525 --> 00:48:41,215
Yes.

826
00:48:41,535 --> 00:48:42,411
Amazing.

827
00:48:42,614 --> 00:48:42,708
That's fantastic.

828
00:48:42,708 --> 00:48:45,263
Raymond, do you have anything
you wanna share here?

829
00:48:45,630 --> 00:48:46,935
No, this is Jeff's show.

830
00:48:47,036 --> 00:48:48,091
I just wanted to listen.

831
00:48:48,737 --> 00:48:48,906
Oh.

832
00:48:48,906 --> 00:48:51,612
Oh, well, I- May- maybe throw a comment
in now and then, but no, it's…

833
00:48:51,847 --> 00:48:56,320
I w- uh, I wanted you and Jeff to
have, have most of the conversation.

834
00:48:56,552 --> 00:48:59,836
You and I have already had two, but we
can do another one one day if you like.

835
00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:01,343
Absolutely.

836
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:05,128
Well, I th- I, I think we're about
to the point, Raymond, where, uh, uh,

837
00:49:05,141 --> 00:49:07,022
we're, we're a little close on time.

838
00:49:07,024 --> 00:49:10,022
So maybe do you wanna do
the, the- Yeah … the song?

839
00:49:10,036 --> 00:49:11,530
You wanna try the song now?

840
00:49:11,530 --> 00:49:11,540
Yes.

841
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:11,886
Yeah, yeah.

842
00:49:11,886 --> 00:49:14,894
Let's do the, let's do the song-
Yeah … that Aline, uh, who in,

843
00:49:14,904 --> 00:49:16,810
uh, the Netherlands, uh, did.

844
00:49:16,941 --> 00:49:17,421
Yes.

845
00:49:17,487 --> 00:49:20,906
And put her, uh, her,
put her website on there.

846
00:49:20,929 --> 00:49:22,026
I didn't know how to do it.

847
00:49:22,454 --> 00:49:22,987
Yeah.

848
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,319
Aline, can you please, um, if you
can type your website in here.

849
00:49:27,319 --> 00:49:33,535
We have a really special presentation
here of a student of Raymond's who has

850
00:49:33,536 --> 00:49:37,905
created this amazing song and video,
so we're so excited to share this.

851
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:43,009
Um, Aline, if you can put how people
can find this after, I mean, if you can

852
00:49:43,010 --> 00:49:48,885
put that in the chat that'd be great,
while I pull up the video here to share.

853
00:49:49,104 --> 00:49:49,556
Okay

854
00:50:07,909 --> 00:50:07,969
The sky can be so blue

855
00:51:34,191 --> 00:51:35,881
Who heals the world

856
00:53:19,469 --> 00:53:19,503
Beautiful.

857
00:53:19,515 --> 00:53:20,407
Beautiful.

858
00:53:20,419 --> 00:53:22,594
Thank you so much, Aline.

859
00:53:23,189 --> 00:53:29,326
I'm so glad that, uh, that
we got that sorted out.

860
00:53:29,414 --> 00:53:36,819
Did, did Aline… Was she able to
put her, um, her… Please, Aline,

861
00:53:36,819 --> 00:53:39,004
if you, if you haven't… Oh, good.

862
00:53:39,036 --> 00:53:39,303
Okay.

863
00:53:39,303 --> 00:53:40,066
I see her link.

864
00:53:40,067 --> 00:53:40,724
I wanna make sure.

865
00:53:40,725 --> 00:53:44,534
If you guys want to get that, she's
got it on her website, and it's

866
00:53:44,536 --> 00:53:50,187
available, and I think it's really
infused with a lot of love and high

867
00:53:50,187 --> 00:53:52,838
vibration, and so do check that out.

868
00:53:53,962 --> 00:53:58,636
Okay, do we have time for just a
couple of questions here as we wrap up?

869
00:53:58,636 --> 00:54:01,987
Would you guys be okay to answer
a couple of questions from people?

870
00:54:02,191 --> 00:54:02,744
Yeah, sure.

871
00:54:02,744 --> 00:54:02,850
Sure.

872
00:54:02,879 --> 00:54:05,964
You, you're running the show, so
go ahead and do what you wanna do.

873
00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:05,980
Yeah.

874
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:05,990
Okay.

875
00:54:06,241 --> 00:54:06,954
All right.

876
00:54:06,967 --> 00:54:07,750
Thank you.

877
00:54:07,763 --> 00:54:14,945
So thank you, p- everybody who was able to
submit the, some questions ahead of time.

878
00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:18,492
We'll just get to a few of these here.

879
00:54:18,554 --> 00:54:23,775
One is how can I neutralize the
negative effects of the noise

880
00:54:23,791 --> 00:54:28,342
vibration in electromagnetic
fields of a 500-volt transformer

881
00:54:28,342 --> 00:54:30,024
right outside my bedroom window?

882
00:54:30,026 --> 00:54:34,362
We had a couple of things like
this, like traffic noise or energy

883
00:54:34,369 --> 00:54:36,073
from… that's around their house.

884
00:54:41,008 --> 00:54:41,593
I don't know.

885
00:54:41,617 --> 00:54:44,522
I don't have anything like that outside my
house, so I don't know how to answer it.

886
00:54:47,145 --> 00:54:48,258
Anything come to you?

887
00:54:48,262 --> 00:54:49,296
Dave, you got a comment?

888
00:54:49,351 --> 00:54:51,722
No, people can ask more
questions than we can answer.

889
00:54:52,469 --> 00:54:57,945
Uh, only thing I would, I would say is
I would, uh, I would, I would program

890
00:54:57,945 --> 00:55:03,489
my body to where it was immune to those
things rather than trying to stop them.

891
00:55:03,885 --> 00:55:07,274
I would program my body to where
it would be immune to those.

892
00:55:07,605 --> 00:55:11,118
So I would try to increase my
own immunity, just like you

893
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:12,568
would to a disease, to that.

894
00:55:12,929 --> 00:55:14,134
I would program it that way.

895
00:55:15,825 --> 00:55:17,276
Yeah, I love that.

896
00:55:18,061 --> 00:55:27,591
Um, how does one's own ego and will affect
the answers one receives from dowsing?

897
00:55:31,758 --> 00:55:36,223
Any, any way that you get- well, it,
it, do you ever find yourself getting

898
00:55:36,223 --> 00:55:42,045
in the way of it, like you're, an, like
a smaller part of you is interfering?

899
00:55:42,975 --> 00:55:43,350
No.

900
00:55:44,096 --> 00:55:44,354
Yeah.

901
00:55:44,354 --> 00:55:44,364
Yeah.

902
00:55:44,831 --> 00:55:48,238
If, if, if that's the case, you're
not at the right level of mind.

903
00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:52,075
You're not, you're not, your mind
is not at the right, at the alpha

904
00:55:52,075 --> 00:55:55,890
level, 'cause at the alpha level, ego
has a really hard time living there.

905
00:55:56,828 --> 00:55:57,578
Oh, okay.

906
00:55:58,029 --> 00:56:00,886
If you, you, you- So more- A douser will
be in the right- … centering Yeah,

907
00:56:00,887 --> 00:56:04,514
it's, it's… That's what Raymond teaches
in his class, is where to put your brain

908
00:56:04,515 --> 00:56:07,015
level if you're, if you're gonna do that.

909
00:56:07,029 --> 00:56:10,483
If you lower your brain level
to where you're dowsing.

910
00:56:10,794 --> 00:56:14,467
That's why he recommends doing it
the way that he teaches it, because

911
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:16,269
it, it automatically puts you there.

912
00:56:16,851 --> 00:56:19,956
And he gives you an exercise
also, that if you're ever in

913
00:56:19,956 --> 00:56:23,270
doubt, if you do that exercise,
it puts you into the alpha level.

914
00:56:23,778 --> 00:56:24,004
Yeah.

915
00:56:24,033 --> 00:56:24,421
Ooh.

916
00:56:24,662 --> 00:56:25,145
Yeah.

917
00:56:25,658 --> 00:56:27,681
Raymond, do you have
any classes coming up?

918
00:56:28,053 --> 00:56:29,982
Uh, not till next spring.

919
00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:34,399
Uh, next, yeah, we'll, we'll
announce it probably in, in the

920
00:56:34,503 --> 00:56:36,148
January or February newsletter.

921
00:56:36,527 --> 00:56:39,431
Uh, I'm looking at the
comments coming through.

922
00:56:39,899 --> 00:56:39,913
Mm-hmm.

923
00:56:39,913 --> 00:56:41,881
There's a lot of misinformation out there.

924
00:56:42,690 --> 00:56:43,980
People think they know me.

925
00:56:44,198 --> 00:56:44,748
They don't

926
00:56:46,830 --> 00:56:48,308
That's the only way I know to say it.

927
00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:55,747
Um, so it just, I just see s- a lot
of it is very, very positive, thanking

928
00:56:55,747 --> 00:56:59,749
me for doing something, but I, I
saw a few that, uh, I think these

929
00:56:59,749 --> 00:57:01,091
folks don't have a clue who I am.

930
00:57:02,106 --> 00:57:02,127
Really?

931
00:57:02,127 --> 00:57:03,787
And I've, I've noticed that for years.

932
00:57:04,664 --> 00:57:06,875
They… And that's, that's
the only way I know to say it.

933
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:13,429
They have a m- a misconception
of, of who I am or what I do.

934
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:15,563
I'm a rather s- rather simple person.

935
00:57:16,116 --> 00:57:20,520
Um, so I don't… There's not
anything I can do about it, I just

936
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,369
thought I'd would tell you don't
believe everything you read about me.

937
00:57:28,156 --> 00:57:33,977
I have not been great at being able to
see what's in the chat, so I'm not sure.

938
00:57:33,977 --> 00:57:35,710
Well, I see you could…
Somebody didn't like us.

939
00:57:35,730 --> 00:57:38,303
They said, "Bah, humbug." Oh.

940
00:57:38,448 --> 00:57:38,933
Oh, well.

941
00:57:39,294 --> 00:57:39,709
Okay.

942
00:57:39,709 --> 00:57:39,719
Okay.

943
00:57:40,078 --> 00:57:43,141
Hey, hey, whoever wrote that, you
don't have to come back again.

944
00:57:43,141 --> 00:57:43,871
We won't miss you.

945
00:57:44,285 --> 00:57:44,940
That's right.

946
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:45,995
You can always leave.

947
00:57:45,995 --> 00:57:47,255
Nobody's keeping you here.

948
00:57:47,907 --> 00:57:48,243
Yep.

949
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,213
That's, that's my attitude.

950
00:57:50,228 --> 00:57:53,136
There's gonna be some people like you,
there's gonna be some people that don't.

951
00:57:53,941 --> 00:57:57,406
Uh, try to do whatever you can to run
the ones that don't like you away so

952
00:57:57,408 --> 00:57:58,413
you don't have to put up with them.

953
00:57:58,887 --> 00:58:00,607
That's a, that's a great point.

954
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,821
Might make things easier.

955
00:58:03,106 --> 00:58:04,452
It makes it a lot easier.

956
00:58:04,875 --> 00:58:05,119
It really does.

957
00:58:06,938 --> 00:58:07,087
Yeah.

958
00:58:07,087 --> 00:58:10,475
Do you- I tell you what, I, I don't,
I might not know the recipe for

959
00:58:10,483 --> 00:58:15,375
success, but I know the recipe for
failure: trying to please everyone.

960
00:58:15,968 --> 00:58:16,587
Can't be done.

961
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,341
Yeah.

962
00:58:20,184 --> 00:58:21,398
Yes, absolutely.

963
00:58:21,442 --> 00:58:23,686
Be who you are, do what
you think oughta be done.

964
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:25,694
People that like you will support you.

965
00:58:25,696 --> 00:58:27,156
The ones that don't, stay away from you.

966
00:58:27,393 --> 00:58:28,298
Either one's okay.

967
00:58:29,355 --> 00:58:29,802
Yeah.

968
00:58:32,050 --> 00:58:35,381
Well, I'll ask one more- Pretty
interesting … one more question.

969
00:58:35,478 --> 00:58:36,813
Are you good for one more?

970
00:58:37,168 --> 00:58:37,353
Sure.

971
00:58:37,353 --> 00:58:37,363
Sure.

972
00:58:37,363 --> 00:58:37,746
Okay.

973
00:58:38,106 --> 00:58:42,612
When using your pendulum, what is
most effective wording for removing

974
00:58:42,614 --> 00:58:45,194
the emotion of fear from oneself?

975
00:58:46,461 --> 00:58:48,284
Jeff, you want to take
this one or you want me to?

976
00:58:48,330 --> 00:58:49,292
No, you go ahead on this one.

977
00:58:49,301 --> 00:58:49,640
All right.

978
00:58:49,704 --> 00:58:52,714
Uh, what I do, I neutralize fear.

979
00:58:52,717 --> 00:58:56,497
Neutralize means take energy away
from, and you want to neutralize

980
00:58:56,497 --> 00:58:59,980
fear, this pendulum will spin
in a counterclockwise manner.

981
00:59:00,375 --> 00:59:03,620
And I'll, I'll slow this down here so
you can see what I use for a pendulum.

982
00:59:03,928 --> 00:59:06,198
I use a .45-70 bullet on a chain.

983
00:59:06,555 --> 00:59:09,396
Now, you can use any kind of bullet,
and you don't have to use a bullet.

984
00:59:09,898 --> 00:59:11,433
Some people don't believe in bullets.

985
00:59:11,874 --> 00:59:13,789
And, uh, we sell bullets.

986
00:59:13,982 --> 00:59:14,859
Nancy makes them.

987
00:59:15,264 --> 00:59:19,941
We sell other pendulums made out
of either glass or, uh, whatever

988
00:59:19,943 --> 00:59:22,701
metal that… Something simple.

989
00:59:23,135 --> 00:59:28,644
But, um, we do get a comment now and
then of someone that don't likes bullets.

990
00:59:28,644 --> 00:59:30,919
Well, that's fine, just don't buy it

991
00:59:33,917 --> 00:59:35,214
I don't argue with people.

992
00:59:35,579 --> 00:59:36,570
It's a waste of time.

993
00:59:37,237 --> 00:59:37,711
Yeah.

994
00:59:38,073 --> 00:59:41,605
I don't try to convince people to
believe, uh, uh, to believe anything.

995
00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:43,418
They either believe it or they don't.

996
00:59:43,424 --> 00:59:46,002
There's no point in wasting time
trying to convince them otherwise.

997
00:59:47,815 --> 00:59:47,841
Yeah.

998
00:59:47,841 --> 00:59:49,869
That's why I have fewer
problems than most people do

999
00:59:52,884 --> 00:59:56,894
You know, the best attitude I
know to have towards people that

1000
00:59:56,894 --> 01:00:02,053
criticize you, listen carefully, it
goes like this: I don't give a damn.

1001
01:00:05,140 --> 01:00:05,859
Amen.

1002
01:00:06,622 --> 01:00:07,139
Yes.

1003
01:00:07,219 --> 01:00:08,272
I thought you'd like that.

1004
01:00:08,619 --> 01:00:09,203
Yes.

1005
01:00:09,721 --> 01:00:10,325
Now forget it.

1006
01:00:10,325 --> 01:00:11,234
It'll come in handy.

1007
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,418
Yeah.

1008
01:00:13,544 --> 01:00:16,521
So with the, with the pendulum,
you were doing the… That

1009
01:00:16,521 --> 01:00:19,455
was in a counterclockwise to
remove- A counterclockwise, yes.

1010
01:00:19,739 --> 01:00:22,814
Well, i- if you wanna neutralize
something, it'll run counterclockwise.

1011
01:00:22,825 --> 01:00:25,336
If you wanna increase
something, it'll run clockwise.

1012
01:00:26,122 --> 01:00:26,598
Okay.

1013
01:00:26,711 --> 01:00:30,124
You just gotta practice, folks,
and there's no substitute

1014
01:00:30,128 --> 01:00:31,423
for practice, I don't think.

1015
01:00:32,044 --> 01:00:38,739
Uh, you know how, how long it took me
to get a pendulum to move this far?

1016
01:00:39,718 --> 01:00:40,509
Three years.

1017
01:00:41,048 --> 01:00:41,716
Really?

1018
01:00:41,716 --> 01:00:42,163
Yeah.

1019
01:00:42,642 --> 01:00:44,242
I was just too hard-headed to quit.

1020
01:00:46,923 --> 01:00:48,673
Seriously, that's, that was it.

1021
01:00:48,673 --> 01:00:52,787
It took me three years to get a
pendulum to move, and Walt Woods was

1022
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:56,344
a very well-known dowser, probably
the best known one in America.

1023
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,963
And I was standing with him
one day, and he was dowsing.

1024
01:00:59,963 --> 01:01:04,506
His pendulum was going like this,
and mine was going like this.

1025
01:01:07,186 --> 01:01:09,662
And I've been at working on
this now for three years.

1026
01:01:09,722 --> 01:01:10,871
Hadn't made much progress.

1027
01:01:11,414 --> 01:01:14,660
I said, "Hey, you, I want you
to work like Walt's." It started

1028
01:01:14,668 --> 01:01:16,015
doing it, and has ever since.

1029
01:01:16,486 --> 01:01:17,299
Really?

1030
01:01:17,318 --> 01:01:17,583
Yeah.

1031
01:01:17,811 --> 01:01:19,031
Oh my gosh.

1032
01:01:19,045 --> 01:01:21,637
So for all you folk out there
that your pendulum won't work,

1033
01:01:21,943 --> 01:01:23,070
tell it to work like mine.

1034
01:01:24,430 --> 01:01:25,638
There, yes.

1035
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,756
Yeah, that'll probably do it.

1036
01:01:27,134 --> 01:01:27,543
It worked for me.

1037
01:01:27,543 --> 01:01:31,312
We have so much h- we- so much
homework for everybody listening.

1038
01:01:31,315 --> 01:01:35,348
So we're gonna learn, we're gonna
try our … We are going to do,

1039
01:01:35,741 --> 01:01:37,640
we're going to program our water.

1040
01:01:38,052 --> 01:01:41,542
We're gonna have our pendulums
work the way that Raymond's are.

1041
01:01:41,953 --> 01:01:45,659
And I'm adding to that,
we're going on a road trip.

1042
01:01:45,767 --> 01:01:47,768
Raymond, and Jeff, and Kara.

1043
01:01:48,186 --> 01:01:55,140
Road trip, and I've got all my
intentions set for the rest of the day.

1044
01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:57,492
We'll have some interesting
ones, that's, that's for sure.

1045
01:01:57,664 --> 01:01:59,516
Might be a very interesting one, too.

1046
01:02:00,395 --> 01:02:00,664
Yeah.

1047
01:02:02,103 --> 01:02:07,105
Oh, my goodness, this has been
such a s- it's been so much fun,

1048
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:08,643
and it's been such an honor.

1049
01:02:08,644 --> 01:02:10,391
I have loved listening to your stories.

1050
01:02:10,393 --> 01:02:12,139
I know that everybody has loved.

1051
01:02:12,139 --> 01:02:18,413
I've seen all these hearts, and, and the,
the, um, celebration horns and so forth.

1052
01:02:18,415 --> 01:02:19,849
So thank you both so much.

1053
01:02:20,144 --> 01:02:25,202
For everybody who's listening, I know
I was late to, um, realize we weren't

1054
01:02:25,203 --> 01:02:28,645
recording, but I will be able to get
the full recording off of YouTube.

1055
01:02:28,660 --> 01:02:33,114
So I only just started, um, because
I was like, "Well, just in case as a

1056
01:02:33,116 --> 01:02:38,971
fail-safe." But not to worry, we will have
the full recording, um, available, too.

1057
01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:41,347
And it's already out
there on YouTube also.

1058
01:02:41,348 --> 01:02:44,137
So thank you, thank you, thank you.

1059
01:02:44,138 --> 01:02:45,771
This has been so much fun.

1060
01:02:46,179 --> 01:02:47,462
How many people did we have?

1061
01:02:48,810 --> 01:02:54,694
Um, when I checked YouTube a f- little
while ago, we had had like up- I

1062
01:02:54,705 --> 01:02:58,894
think there were about 240 on YouTube,
and then I've seen up to almost

1063
01:02:58,896 --> 01:03:02,886
about 700 here live, so on the Zoom.

1064
01:03:03,014 --> 01:03:03,335
Okay.

1065
01:03:03,335 --> 01:03:03,345
Okay.

1066
01:03:03,345 --> 01:03:04,997
Well that's, uh, that's good.

1067
01:03:04,997 --> 01:03:06,384
We've reached a lot of people out there.

1068
01:03:06,386 --> 01:03:09,379
And probably not everybody
agrees with us, but that's okay.

1069
01:03:09,915 --> 01:03:13,125
But the ones that wants to learn
something, we try to share information.

1070
01:03:14,130 --> 01:03:14,888
Yes.

1071
01:03:15,158 --> 01:03:16,349
Yeah, absolutely.

1072
01:03:16,355 --> 01:03:17,761
So thank you for hosting us today.

1073
01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:18,073
Yeah.

1074
01:03:18,094 --> 01:03:19,110
Thank you very much.

1075
01:03:19,165 --> 01:03:19,497
Yeah.

1076
01:03:19,624 --> 01:03:20,261
Thank you, everybody here.

1077
01:03:20,261 --> 01:03:20,813
It's been my honor.

1078
01:03:20,873 --> 01:03:24,504
Thank you, everybody out there, for
taking some time, and hopefully it

1079
01:03:24,504 --> 01:03:27,978
was, uh, something that they got
a little something out of it, so.

1080
01:03:29,128 --> 01:03:29,843
Yes.

1081
01:03:30,747 --> 01:03:31,149
All right.

1082
01:03:31,152 --> 01:03:32,750
Thank you so much, everybody.

1083
01:03:32,751 --> 01:03:33,705
So much fun.

1084
01:03:33,712 --> 01:03:38,170
Have a great rest of your day,
and hopefully we'll do it again.

1085
01:03:38,746 --> 01:03:39,659
Have a good weekend.

1086
01:03:40,038 --> 01:03:40,234
Uh-huh.

1087
01:03:40,251 --> 01:03:40,770
You, too.

1088
01:03:41,049 --> 01:03:41,399
Bye-bye.

1089
01:03:41,399 --> 01:03:41,728
Thanks.

1090
01:03:42,065 --> 01:03:42,268
Bye.