627. Breaking Curses, Changing the Past, and Clearing Possessions - Raymon Grace Returns

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Welcome to Soul Elevation: Guiding Your Ascension to New Heights. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. I've got an exceptional episode for you today. My friend Raymond Grace joins me for the second time. If you haven't heard our first episode, you can find that in episode 545. Raymond is a really fascinating person, and he has a lot of time-tested insights to share. Today, we're talking about
astounding work he's done over the decades, , including healing painful physical wounds by going back in time to protect the victim, what possession actually is, and how easy it is to exercise negative entities, the biblical curse that Raymond released, positively affecting the weather, and so much more. Raymond Grace has been promoting dowsing with lectures, classes, books, newsletters, and

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films for over 30 years and in 160 countries. He managed this without a day of college or a degree and without wearing a suit and tie. He has no titles or letters after his name. He is blunt and down-to-earth, and his motto is, "There's no substitute for freedom." So we'll begin very shortly, but first I want to invite you to explore everything available for you at karagoodwin.com. You can get my book, Your Authentic Awakening, as well
as a selection of free guided meditations to strengthen your spiritual side and access to powerful workshops and classes to support your ascension journey. And thank you truly for supporting the show. Your likes, comments, shares, and subscriptions genuinely help this work reach more people and uplift the frequency of the content. Every share makes it easier for others to find these conversations. So go ahead and hit the like button

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while you're thinking about it. All right, let's begin. Enjoy this episode Kara Goodwin: Well, welcome, Raymond. It's such a joy and an honor to talk to you again. Thank you so much for being here. I've been really looking forward to connecting with you again. Raymon Grace: Well, I appreciate talking to you. I appreciate the invitation. You ask intelligent questions, and I admire people that ask intelligent
questions. Kara Goodwin: Oh, well, thank you so much. It really means a lot. I, I love, love talking to you, and ready to go further today. So I'd love to start with the topic of women, and I know that you really are an advocate for women and children and, and their protection. Can you talk about the biblical curse on women and the work that you have done related to this? Raymon Grace: I will talk, uh, as well

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as I can about it. Now, I may have been the one that invented the word biblical curse. Uh, and I did that because I read the Bible more than the average person does, I think. I'm not an authority on it. I don't really remember all the details, but I got the overall idea. And I remember reading, uh, uh, in the Book of Genesis about the laws that, um- Was used to, I
will use the term regulate women behavior, um, and also male behavior. For example, they weren't allowed to wear a robe with two different kinds of material. You couldn't have cotton and wool in the same, same robe. I don't have no idea why, but that was their law. Supposedly, that was a law that God gave them. Whether that is true or not, I can't say, but that's

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what I read. Okay. Uh, then there were v- various laws. They could not eat the flesh of an animal unless it parted the hoof. That means it had sep- uh, a, a split between its hoof, uh, like a sheep or a, a goat or a cow. Uh, a horse's hoof isn't like that. They don't have split hooves. They have one s- solid hoof. But they could only eat the meat of a animal that parted the hoof and chewed
what are called a cud. That is, um, uh, with a cow, and I've, uh, uh, right now I'm, uh, keeping a herd of 20 cows, and they will lie down every afternoon and regurg- regurgitate what they have eaten, all the grass that morning, and, uh, do it again. A cow, I believe, has four stomachs, I think, and it, it's, their whole digestive system is different. Well, anyway, these people could eat a cow

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Uh, or a sheep, and possibly a goat. Uh, they were not allowed... Rabbits and squirrels weren't even mentioned, maybe because they weren't in that part of the world. But you could only eat the meat of a animal that chewed a cud, uh, the word cud, C-U-D, I think, is, means that it was regurgitated, uh, uh, f- uh, food that they had to digest. So, uh, that was the, um, s- the
law. Um, you could not eat a catfish because it did not have scales. So there was all kind of rules as to what they could or could not eat. Well, then I read the laws about, uh, women, uh, and they were very disturbing to me. For example, if a... Now there were certain conditions in this, but basically, uh, if a girl got raped and did not cry out, and maybe it was sh- uh, she,

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what, couldn't cry out or whatever, they would throw rocks at her until she was dead. It was called stoning to death. Now if you doubt this, read the first chapter of Genesis. Hmm. Uh, well, I won't say first chapter. Read the entire book. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: Uh, because it is a book of law, um, of the people that lived on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea in a land called Israel, uh, back, uh, well, according to the Bible date, I
don't know if it's true or not, about 6,000 years ago. Well, if the Bible's dated only 6,000 years ago, that's not real impressive, because what I've read is the Korean people have, uh, their history going back 15,000 years. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: So different cultures probably have history going back further than others. So this is the length of history here of 6,000 years is, compared to the Korean history, is really not very impressive. Um,

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but bottom line is, they had laws to go by, and I remember reading the one where they could stone to death, uh, a, a, a female. And I'm thinking, "How could I possibly respect a culture that throws rocks at a woman until she's dead?" That changed my entire belief about what I had been taught. Kara Goodwin: Hmm. Raymon Grace: So I... The, the way my mind works is listen to what people say and see if it makes any sense or not. And
if it doesn't make any sense, I don't believe it anymore. So that's... Uh, but the, what really hit me, and I was having a conversation with one of my friends one night and asked her how much she knew about the Bible, and she said, "Well, not very much." I said, "Well, let me tell you what little bit I might know." So I, uh, re- uh, I told her what I just told you. But up until that point, my brain had not connected the dots-

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And, uh, all at once it occurred to me, there's been a biblical curse put on women. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: And I said, "Let's break the damn curse." Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: This, this is r- this is the kind of attitude I have. I don't know I can't. People ask me a lot of times, "How do you do these things you do?" My standard answer is, "I didn't know I couldn't." And if you don't know you couldn't, a lot of things become possible. So I said, "Okay,
let's break the damn curse on women." We didn't ask anybody. We didn't seek anyone's opinions. We didn't care. This is what we're gonna do, come hell or high water. This is what we're gonna do. Well, guess what? I teach classes, and the classes will be 70 to 90% female. That's been a, a pretty much a standard as long as I've been teaching classes, which is fine with me. I sometimes wish more men would attend, but... And sometimes they do, but not usually. So why does my

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class appeal to women more than it does men? I don't really know, except that they are more open for the information. I'm glad they're there, but I've often wondered why m- more men don't show up. Well, the next class I had, I just asked this question, without any leading information, "I would like a show of hands, please. How many of the women in this class feel more empowered
than you did a month ago?" And they look for a moment like that, and all the hands go up. I said, "Do you know why?" No, they didn't. I said, "Okay, I will tell you. I broke the biblical curse on you." All right, it's been five years now. I think I did this in June, five years ago, but so I still ask the same question. Since it's been that long, it takes a while for the brain to

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stop and think back, 'cause now I ask, "How many of you feel more empowered than you did five years ago?" And the hands still go up. Not all of them, no. Some, some classes, uh, every hand will go up. Sometimes, uh, there'll be two or three that won't. But on an average, I would say 95% of the women have raised their hands. Something happened, and they ask me, "What?" And I tell them, "I broke the biblical curse on you." And if they
say, "How did you do that?" My answer would be, "I didn't know I couldn't." Kara Goodwin: Wow Raymon Grace: That is my standard answer for most people that ask me how I did things. How did I change the taste of water, uh, in Australia, which is on the other side of the world? I didn't know I couldn't. See, when we don't know we can't, there's a world of things that become possible. Kara Goodwin: That's so powerful. Yes. Raymon Grace: But

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put, and but also another person said this, and I believe it was, um, mm, um, n- I don't recall the name right now. Maybe it'll come back to me in a moment. Uh, whether you believe you can or believe you can't, you're right. So I chose to believe I could. Kara Goodwin: Yes. Raymon Grace: And everything in life is a matter of choice. Uh, whether you choose to be at a certain time could be, mean whether you, uh,
make friends or whether you make enemies. Uh, it could, uh, timing is everything. That's why I always tell people, dial, uh, before you start to go anywhere, see if there's any danger. If there is, uh, move the time forward 30 minutes, see if there's any danger. It may have changed. Know every wreck that you ever saw on the highway would not have occurred if one driver had been two seconds faster or slower.

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So timing is everything. Kara Goodwin: I haven't really thought about that. Wow. Raymon Grace: I got a different kind of mind. Yeah I think about all kind of weird stuff. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. But Raymon Grace: seriously, uh, whenever you, and I say this to your listening audience out there, learn to dial. I mean, I got videos out there at my website that'll teach you how. Uh, get 'em, practice 'em. You gotta practice now. You can't just read something and, and make it work. You
gotta really put, put it into practice. Um, but I check to see whether I should go to the post office before or after lunch. Usually it doesn't make any difference, but since timing is everything, I wanna make sure I'm at the right place at the right time. And on every trip, a- and you can do this for trips too. I was picking up a friend of mine five hours away one time. Well, I wasn't paying too much attention to the time. I just knew you needed to be there at 5:00. So I had to go

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through a lot of road construction, three rainstorms, various traffic problems. At exactly 5:00, I'd have pulled in the driveway. Kara Goodwin: Really? Raymon Grace: Yeah. Set goals of where you want to be at the time you want to be, and you literally arrange m- you mentally arrange your schedule to be there at that time. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: I drove all the way from here to Colorado, which is a three-day drive, and I got
there 15 minutes early. Kara Goodwin: Wow, that is precise. Yeah. Raymon Grace: Well, this is what you can do with the mind. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: But you gotta believe you can do it. Kara Goodwin: Yes. I think for me, when I hear you say that too, there's such an alignment. We were talking about this a little bit before we started recording, but there's such an alignment with you about what you, who you are and what you

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think, what you say, how you present yourself. It's very solid, and it's very consistent, and you know who you are, and you just are that way. Mm-hmm. And I think that that plays into even time as far as being able to... Because you're, you're much more in control of your reality, even when you say you don't know how you do it. But to me, I think that that alignment and that energy is a part of it, you know, that, that helps you to
have access to that. Raymon Grace: Well, I, I think I finally figured out how I do things. Actually, I had to get a friend to tell me how I did it. He said, "You don't know you can't." Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: And he was right. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Oh, I, I had another old friend one time. He was a very intelligent man. So I asked him one day, "William, what is time?" He thought for a minute and said, "It isn't."

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I've always asked strange questions. I always try to find the most intelligent people I can to ask questions to. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: There's no, there's no point in asking somebody that don't know. So you gotta, you gotta seek out intelligent people to ask your questions to. Kara Goodwin: Right, right. Yeah. Well, if we go, if we stay on that, uh, the biblical curse on women- Mm-hmm and pivot just a little bit, um, you have fascinating stories
about work that you've done where you seem to have affected the past. And one story that sticks out to me relates to a woman who had undergone abuse, and she had scars on her body, that after some work that you did, they seemed to disappear. Raymon Grace: Well, let's talk about the work. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: I don't remember who that was, but it does kind of resonate with me. I, I, when you work on thousands of people, you, you, you forget

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names, or at least- Yeah ... okay. What I do, I go back in time, and what I did for her, I went back in time and I eliminated the perpetrator. Now, that's what I've learned to do. Now, I want to bring this up. I did that in class last month for at least 15 women in the class. I just, I'd never done this before. I just asked a question saying, "I don't want to embarrass
anybody, but if you don't mind, how many of you have been sexually abused?" At least 15 raised their hand. I did something, and I can do it on film if it don't freak you out. But, uh, it's not gentle. I did something with a movement of my hands, and I said, "Now, how do you feel?" And they had to think for a moment. "Well, we feel better. We don't remember any abuse."

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You see, it is possible to eliminate memories from people. And, um, sometimes that's a, it's a good thing to do, uh, especially during any, any type of, uh, torture, abuse, anything like that. The human race has not been very kind to each other, and, uh, I do my best to be kind to people. I've got some rough edges, but I, I really like being kind. And I especially
like being kind to females, and mostly because most of my friends are female, and they tell me about the abuse that they've had. So I think, "Okay, we gotta do something about this." So I learned that we can go back in time and eliminate the problems. Now, I had never done this as a group until t- uh, last week. Uh, and I thought, "Well, I never thought about it

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before. Let's just do it now." It worked. Kara Goodwin: Wow. That's amazing. Raymon Grace: Well, I thought so too. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. And Raymon Grace: if I didn't, I was well pleased that it worked. Now, what will I do? I will do that in every class hereafter, 'cause now I know it can be done. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: But it had never occurred to me before. So, um, t- to maybe, um... And you can ask
any detailed questions you want, uh, because your audience really needs to know that these things are possible. See, you can only accomplish something if you know it's possible And the more that I can help people understand what can be done and what the possibilities are, the more good we can do. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. That it, it's so amazing, and the story that, you know, that I was thinking about, I do wanna

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share because it's so powerful, that she had been... I wanna say she'd been burned, um, on her backside. Raymon Grace: Oh, I know who that was now. Kara Goodwin: Okay. Raymon Grace: Oh, yes. Let me tell the story, please. Kara Goodwin: Yes. Yeah. Please do. Raymon Grace: Yeah. Sometimes I re- I, I, I, I just didn't catch who it was. Now I know exactly who it was. This was in, ups- uh, in, uh, mountains of New York, right out from B- um, Binghamton, and as I was leaving the place, this
very attractive girl come up to me and says, "I would like to talk to you." And I said, "Well, you'll have to wait till I get home. I've got... Uh, you know, I'm going home now, but, uh, here's my number. You feel free to call me, or give me your number," I don't remember which way I did it, "and, uh, I'll be glad to talk to you." Well, we had a conversation. She sent... Well, first she sent me a email. It was one horror story after another. I could not believe that anyone could hu- treat

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a little girl the way she had been treated, and I got so angry. I, and I normally don't get that angry. It was, it was unusual, but the way that she described the way she was treated just really built a rage up inside of me. So I picked up the phone and called her. Well, she told me the same thing she had just written, and I was literally shaking all over. And I said, "Look, le- let me do
something here for you." She said, "I have hurt 24 hours a day. I've not had a good night's sleep in," I believe it was 40, 40 years. She was 30, she was 40-some years old, about 45 years old. She, uh, hadn't had a, a good night's sleep. Uh, sh- her life was misery every day. And this is what I did. I reached up over and I picked this up. And I sat here, and again, I'm so angry I'm shaking

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all over. I imagined the person that set her on the stove. What happened? Somebody had picked... Her mother's sadistic boyfriend had picked this little girl up at six years old, set her naked on a hot stove. She had 15 scars on her butt from being set on that stove. Kara Goodwin: Oh my God. Raymon Grace: I don't know what that guy looked like, but I created an image of a very horrific-looking person, and I took this knife and I stuck it in his heart. And no, I don't
make any apologies at all for what I do. She screamed at me, "What did you do to me?" I said, "I didn't do anything to you. What makes you think I did?" She said, "The pain's gone." She said, "I'm not hurting now." Well, I'm still so angry I'm shaking all over. I said, "Look, I can't talk to you anymore now. I'll call you tomorrow after I calm down." I called. "Oh, I overslept this morning." Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: I haven't had a good night's sleep in 37

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years Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh Raymon Grace: And then she said, "Oh." This comes up, uh, about a month later. She said, "I waited a month just to make sure it worked. All 15 scars on my butt where I'd been set on a hot stove have disappeared." Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: So what's the bottom line? We can go back in time and stop events from happening in the past. That is the best confirmation I've ever had. Now,
I have had other confirmations of doing this. As a matter of fact, uh, the story I just told about the 15 women in class last week, I went back in time simultaneously. I'd never done that before. I'd always done it on an individual basis. Well, I had 15 women there. It would take too long. I said, "Well, heck, I'll just create, uh, one perpetrator, one size fits all here, and I'll eliminate them." That's what I did.

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Their e- the expressions on their face changed immediately. "Okay, how many of you feel better now?" All the hands go up. Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh. Raymon Grace: This is what I do for entertainment. I don't go to movies. I don't watch TV. I don't go to concerts. I'm a hermit. I live so far back in the woods, Jehovah Witnesses can't even find me. But I talk to people all over the world, and these are the things I do. Kara Goodwin: That's amazing.
Raymon Grace: Why? Because it needs to be done. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: People ask me, "Why did you do this?" I've got three answers. I could, I wanted to, and it needed to be done. That's my standard answers on everything I do. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Now, I will probably freak out some of your listeners out there. Don't bother to send me an email. I'm talking to the listeners now, not you. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Because

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if you don't like what I do, I don't really give a damn. I solve problems Kara Goodwin: Yes Raymon Grace: And I solve them only way I know how. Kara Goodwin: Yes. Yeah Raymon Grace: So no, I am not concerned about whether people like the way I handle situations. But- Well, it- ... if they could do any better, they would've already done it Kara Goodwin: Yeah, and it's, it'd be interesting if that, if what you've shared has, would offend anybody. You'd have to really twist- Raymon Grace: Oh, there's some out there- ...
your thinking ... that are crazy enough Yeah "Oh, you d- you did harm to another human being." And you know what my answer is? "Damn right, and I'm good at it." Kara Goodwin: Yeah, yeah. Raymon Grace: So, uh, apologies are one of the things I don't have. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Um, but I like helping people. I, I mean, that's why I do what I do. Kara Goodwin: Yeah, and Raymon Grace: it's so needed. And I w- it, it, look, what I learned is it doesn't matter what you do, there will be somebody that don't like it.

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I have no reason to be concerned. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. I agree. I agree. I love it. Well, we're talking about time and moving through time. Raymon Grace: Mm-hmm. Kara Goodwin: And it makes me think about something that I came across not too long ago with your, your discovery of water holding memory. Raymon Grace: Mm-hmm. Kara Goodwin: And then that prompted you to see how far you could take that. And so you were thinking
about how much water is in your body, and clearing the negative memories from your body, and then you had a physical reaction to that. And you had a friend who was going through the same thing. So this is another really powerful story I'd love for you to share. Raymon Grace: Well, I'll try to. Y- uh, actually, I had forgot it till you brought it up, uh, just before we started this kind of, uh, uh, g- getting a place

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together on what we're gonna talk about. But, um, what I b- if I remember correctly, and if I'm not correct, you, you, uh, you correct me, but, uh, we decided that, uh, we had, that water had memory. And I'm not the only person that discovered this. Uh, I think, um, I w- I don't remember, recall the name right now, but some, some other famous person had discovered the same thing. And Kara Goodwin: we decided- Dr. Emoto ... Raymon Grace: yeah.
Yeah. Uh, well, he was one, but there was still another one that don- doesn't come to my mind. But anyway, we decided we were going to take the negative memory out of the water of our bodies, and we were both on the road traveling separately at the time. Uh, but we were, we were talking to one another on the phone. Well, what happened when we, we succeeded More than we realized we would. We couldn't make it from one rest area to another. Our

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bodies just started getting rid of all the negative, uh, memory of the water, but it got rid of the water at the same time. And, uh, it, uh... I mean, our, our... Uh, there's no other way to say it, I don't think. Our bodies just started releasing water with negative memory in it. And this went on for the better part of a day, and then everything cleaned up and w- we're fine Kara Goodwin: So your body started detoxing, both of you. You weren't even together in
the same place. Raymon Grace: No, no. We were- You were singularly having this experience ... we were all apart, uh, both of us traveling on different, different places at the time. But, uh, you really had to stop and find the bushes on the side of the road to go pee- ... because you couldn't make it to the, to the restroom. Uh, and I mean, it was happening to both of us at the same time, because why? We said we want to cleanse all of the non-beneficial water

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in our body, and by God, we did it too. A little better than what we intended to do, but, uh, it w- Kara Goodwin: That's remarkable. I mean, it's so, it's really powerful to have those physical side effects in addition to do you feel better? Do you... You know, th- those are powerful too, but then when you have the, the physical with the simultaneous, two of you at the same time- Mm-hmm without realizing it, having the same experience. Well, let Raymon Grace:
me say this. Most water that people drink is really not any good. Now, for you listeners out there, uh, if you buy water out of the grocery store in, in big, uh, packs or containers, um, you're probably getting ripped off. If you buy water with a fancy name at a higher price, you're definitely getting ripped off. Uh, I find only one water in the grocery store where I buy water for my classes, because I always want to give everybody a, a, a bottle of good

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water to leave and take home with and teach them how to use it. There's only one water in that store that is fit to drink. And, um, uh, the way you test this is you take your pendulum and hold it up over the case of water and say, "Are there any negative emotions in this water?" If there is, don't buy it. Mm-hmm. There was one brand, I don't recall the brand right now, but it's in a green container, and it's also the cheapest water
there. The ones with the fancy names and the high price tag, they're rip-offs. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: Don't, don't buy them. Uh, if you doubt this, uh, learn the dials and ask how strong is the spirit of life in the water or how, how strong is it? There's not any. Take this one, uh, water here that says nothing on it but spring water. Test that. How much is, uh, how strong is the spirit of life in it? Over 200%. Kara Goodwin:

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Wow. Raymon Grace: But people think that because they buy water with a fancy name and a high price tag, they're getting the best water. No, they're getting ripped off. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Hmm. Well, I was also curious to talk about the, um, the weather modification. I think we ta- I think we got into this a little bit last time, but the... You have different protocols that work with the
weather. Mm-hmm. And my friends and I have been using this very diligently. You know, we're recording this in the summertime, and so we've, you know, gone through storm season and used your, your dowsing, using intention, and using the double axe method. Mm-hmm. Um, and we are having amazing results. So for example, a friend of mine was at the Indianapolis 500 in May, and, uh, she was

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saying, "We're, it, it, there's a storm coming right towards us. We're afraid we're gonna get rained out. Can everybody u- use Raymond's protocol? Let's clear, let's try to clear a path." And the weather went around the speedway, and my other friend had seen a news commentator while she was watching the race on TV, and he said, "Okay, the weather just went around the racetrack. God loves the Indy 500." So- Raymon Grace: No, what
it meant was there's a handful of smart girls out there that knows how to move a rainstorm. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. But I mean, it's like even, even the news was noticing, like, oh my gosh, it went around the s- the racetrack and the race could keep going. Um, so thank you so much for sharing the work that you're doing, because it is... You know, in my personal life, we are seeing this over and over again, where we, you know, there's

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like, we can see it on the radar, we can see the, the paths open up. Um, and it's, I mean, we're really seeing the results. And so I was sharing this with you earlier, and you were talking about a fire story with the California fires. Yes. And I'd love for you to share that with people. Raymon Grace: Okay. This is what I was told. I was not there. I did not see it, but I was given credit for doing it. That may or may
not be true, but I would like to believe it. Anyway, this, uh, um, it was a relative of one of my friends who he, um, contacted me and said, "The fire is coming right at my house from all four sides." Well, let's see what I can do. And I simply, I'm not real sure exactly what I did. I think what I did is I took away the spirit of fire. See, most everything has a spirit, and I said, "I want to take away the spirit of

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fire and protect this house." The fire, as I was told the next day, came right up to the house on all four sides and stopped. Kara Goodwin: That's a miracle. Yeah. That's amazing. Raymon Grace: Now, in all honesty, I didn't know that it would work, but I didn't know it wouldn't. So i- we have choices. You try it and find out if it works And usually you will win. It's the people that
said, "Oh, I couldn't do that," you're right, they're right, they couldn't. Why? Because they don't believe in themselves. Belief in yourself, and I encourage all my, my friends and people in my classes to believe in themselves. That is the difference between a winner and a loser. Kara Goodwin: Yes. Yeah. Raymon Grace: My classes are not diplomatic. They're polite, but they're blunt.

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I mean, they are really blunt. I, I, I design them that way. Why? Because I don't want a bunch of wishy-washy people in my class, you know? Yeah. If you, if you don't, if you don't have principles to stand up for what you believe in, don't show up. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Well, I think- Nobody, no- nobody really gets any encouragement to attend my class. If you wanna come, I'll be glad to have you. I'll treat you well, and I'll give you information you'll
never get anywhere else. But will I beg you to come? No. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I, I think that that is part of the success as well. Because if there are people who, uh, can't own their energy and their confidence, you know, they don't believe in themselves, their energy is dissipated. They don't- Yeah ... have access to it to wield it, you know, to be able to make change. Raymon Grace: I, I, I like to create winners, not losers. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, another, um, another thing that we've talked about before offline is your shamanic work, and you, you actually have alluded to it in, without calling it out, in parts of this episode. Um, but when you work with soul fractals and possessions, I think that this is a really interesting topic, and I'd like to start with just what is meant by possession. Raymon Grace:
All right. I'll give you what I believe is an accurate answer. It's what I believe. It is entities, call them spirits, call them whatever you want, uh, but I just call them entities, that move into a human body And control that person's behavior. Now, these are of a negative nature. Some are worse than others. I have a chart, which I won't get into right now, but I

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can tell the difference in someone with just have a bad behavior, bad disposition, and a serial killer. I can pick a serial killer out of any crowd. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: Uh, th- this is valuable. What is, a, a, very valuable is if some, uh, parent is asking me to clean up the kid's school, I will find out are there any pedophile school teachers in that school. Generally, there aren't, but sometimes there are.
So I can find an evil person, call 'em a pedophile, thief, robber, killer, whatever you wanna call 'em, I can find 'em in any crowd of people. Not only that, I can depower them for the most part. Now, some of 'em are harder to depower than others. But generally speaking, I can depower an evil person, whether I know them or not. Well, I never know them. Uh, and this is what I l- would love to teach parents to clean up the

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kids' schools from the first day they go to school. Find out are there any teachers with pedophile tendencies. Find out if there are any teachers possessed, and the answer is gonna be yes. It depends on where the school is. If it's out in the Midwest somewhere, they're not gonna have much problem. If it's in some of the larger cities in the country, it's guaranteed. Well, h- how do I know? Because I've had people all over the United States contact me to clean up a kid's school. So that gives me a good picture of
where the problems are and where they are not. Some cleanest places I have found has been Western Canada. Kara Goodwin: Hmm. Raymon Grace: I got asked to clean up a school there, and I said, "I can't help you. There's nothing wrong." Kara Goodwin: Really? Raymon Grace: The schools in Canada were far superior to the schools in the United States as far as entities went. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: I don't think I ever found any up there. Wow. Fact of the matter is, I don't know h- if you've been there, but I

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have. I spent a lot of time in Canada. It was some of the finest people that I'd ever met, and that's why they didn't have problems in the schools. They were good people. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Now, you try a big city that, I won't name any, but just, uh, any major city in the United States, uh, they are going to be far more teachers with entities, that is possessed, than there isn't Now, have I tried to clean up the entire United States? No, I
really haven't. Some things I don't really try to do. If I get a request from a parent whose kid is in school, I will clean them up. But what I really wanna do is teach that parent to do that so they don't need me. That's what I always try to do in my classes, in the conversations, let the other per- person learn how to do it himself. Now, I actually created a film called Change Energy, Change Your Life, and I made it specific for a number of reasons, but

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specifically for cleaning up schools. I realize that most people will not learn to do what I do. They just don't. However They can learn to u- uh, buy a downloadable video for $25 off my website, play it direct, with mentally directed toward the school, and it will clean up the school. That's about as simple as you can get. Kara Goodwin: Yes, and I have that video. I purchased that video, and it's very, it's, it's very straightforward,
but very powerful. Raymon Grace: Yeah. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: And I, I, I wanted to help people, but there's not enough of me to go around to clean schools for every parent a- and, and student out there. But I can make a video which they will get and do it themselves, which will work. Saves me a lot of time, saves them time, and hopefully teaches them how to do something. Kara Goodwin: Right. Well, so if we go back to, you were

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saying that it's schools, a lot of schools that are in big cities- Mm-hmm ... tend to have more entity involvement. Why do you think that is? Or do you have thoughts about that? Raymon Grace: Well, I don't know that I know, really. I just know that's the way it is. Uh, maybe it's lack of discipline. Maybe... Well, frankly, I think that people that live out in the country have a lot better life and a lot of b- better morals and character than the people that live in big cities.
Kara Goodwin: Mm. Raymon Grace: Uh, I refuse to go in a city. I'll never go in another city the rest of my life. I just, I just don't go. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Um, I, I reached the point in life I don't have to go where I don't wanna go, so I stay out of cities. I will work on the people there that contact me, but I sure won't go there. Um, so, um, I, I just, I just enjoy being a hermit so much, I probably won't ever get more than 50 mile away from home. But,

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uh, but, but I can still train these people if they will listen. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: Uh, but human equality does not exist. I can tell the same thing to a class full of 40 people, and part of them will walk out the door knowing how to do what I've taught them to do. Part of them will walk out the door not having a clue. Human equality does not exist, and it never has. Mm-hmm. It's simply a lie that probably the government made up, and people believe it. Actually, that's
the first statement I make when people come to class. I like to, uh, te- that way if anybody out there is thinking about coming to class, this will help you decide whether you wanna come or whether you don't And you won't get a sales pitch from me. First thing I do is I say, "Human equality does not exist. It's a lie that's been made up probably by the government, and people are dumb enough to believe it. So for all you people who believe that human equality exists, I have a couple of

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questions for you. First question, how many cars did you steal this week?" And they all look at me kind of funny. "Oh, you didn't steal any cars? Well, I believe you. Why? People like you, of your caliber, you have paid your money to be here to learn something to benefit your life. People of your caliber do not steal cars. Second question, how many sold, uh, how many of you, uh, sold kids to human traffickers this week?" And they look horrified. "Oh, you didn't do that either? Well, I believe you. Why? Because
your caliber of people do not do things like that. Now you tell me why the hell you can believe in equality." Kara Goodwin: Mm. Yeah. Raymon Grace: I have never had a comment come back at me. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: They can't argue with it. Kara Goodwin: Right. Well, do you think that part of that is to do with possession? Raymon Grace: Uh, yes. Uh, people... Now some... There's different levels of possession. It goes from people with a grouchy attitude, and I've got a numeric scale, but I won't

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try to, uh, cover that now. I have a numeric scale of, uh, zero to four, and, uh, it goes something like this. Uh, one is a person with a grouchy disposition, t- uh, up, uh, to the next level up would be someone who has bad habits, like maybe a minor thief, a shoplifter or something. Then there's another scale of people that would steal cars or do robberies. Then there's another s- uh, scale of
them, of people that are violent, and they will kill for the slightest reason. Another one scale is people that will kill for the fun of it. I can tell you which one is which. What I'm saying is, if I'm measuring the energy on a group of people, I can tell you if there's dangerous people in that group. Kara Goodwin: Mm. Raymon Grace: And I can tell you how dangerous they are. And yes, there are

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a lot of people out there that are very dangerous But if you know this, and you follow some simple directions, or just use the film I've got, you can el- you can eliminate that problem. There's no reason to send your kids into a school with... You got maybe pedophile teachers or bullies or whatever. There's no reason to do that, folks. We've got enough information, if you will use it, that you can send your kids into school and make it safe. Kara
Goodwin: Mm. Raymon Grace: I did that. I actually, I, I went further than that. I went to school when April decided she wanted to go to school at 14 years old. I wouldn't send her before then. Why? Because her brain, the way the brain develops, and at 14 years old, her brain had developed to a point that it was not impossible, but less likely for her to be brainwashed. I just refused to send her to school. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: And the

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school board didn't like it, but they got used to it. Uh, and I won't get into the details on that, but I just said, "You know, this, this is my kid, not yours, so I'll make the decisions." Uh, I don't believe in turning our kids over to anyone else. I, I just don't believe in things like that. I believe in freedom. Freedom is really about the only thing I really believe in, but I believe in it very strongly. So, um, I cleaned up the whole school. She went to college. I cleaned up the college,
and then, um, the third year of school, she brought a teacher home with her and I said, "How's things at school?" "Oh, fine." "How long you been that way?" She thought a minute, said, "Well, about three years. It used to be really bad." Wow. And I looked at her. She... The lights went on. She said, "April come to school three years ago." "What did you do?" I said, "I de-possessed all the teachers. Not only that, all the kids' homes, and all the kids' parents. I did a mass de-possession on the

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entire group, everybody that was involved. Everything went well. Everybody got along good." Now, what I've done is the people, uh, you folks that are listening, if you pay attention, and maybe get a video to learn how to do this, you can do the same thing. I didn't corner the market on this stuff. I try to share it with people. Because the more people that understand how this works, and that you can change your reality,
it's the better life you're gonna have. Kara Goodwin: Absolutely. Yes. Raymon Grace: On that, on that, I'd like to say something else. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: I don't have any problems. I really don't. I do not perceive things as problems. They may be events, but they don't have to be mine And it's, it's an attitude more than anything else. Um, people are nice to me, I'm nice to them. They may not agree with me.

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If they don't, they'll just stay away. That's okay. But I do not have people sending me hate emails. They just don't do it. And I try not to give them a re- I try to give them a reason not to. If they've asked me to do something, I try to give them a polite answer as best, as much as possible. But, um, I just don't get things like that Kara Goodwin: That's a huge testament to how you're
living. Raymon Grace: Well, wherever I go, people treat me well. Kara Goodwin: Right. Raymon Grace: I went in a government office last week and one of the, uh, people there hadn't seen me in a while, so he comes out and he shakes hands. Uh, got most people, government people don't do that. But, um It just, uh, j- just try to treat people well, be kind to 'em, uh, but don't let anyone

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try to control your life. Kara Goodwin: You know, it's really funny. I, because you, you are very f- very focused on freedom and sovereignty, and everybody taking responsibility for themselves, and, you know, you're, you're making this point too about just you, you have a, uh... You know, you don't have problems. Your life is very fluid, and it, it just is positive, and it, it makes me think as well, you have received awards from the city or the town, from
governments thanking you- Raymon Grace: No, I, I received an award from the State of Virginia. Kara Goodwin: From the state. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. From the state. Yes, I knew it was a government entity- Yeah ... but I couldn't think of which one. Yeah. So from the state- Mm-hmm ... for your work in helping people, so it's an in- really interesting, because you're so humble that it's easy to, for people, I think, to just kind of, like, "Oh, okay. Well," you know, uh,

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to hear what you're saying but not to really feel into the depth of the truth of what you're saying. Because even somebody that is coming forth and saying, you know, "Be independent, be free," that is the point, and here are some places where you might not be free, which is, for example, some government situations. Yeah. And you then receive accolades from the state for the work that you're doing, so it's, it's really, it's really- I'll Raymon Grace: tell
you what I'll do ... Kara Goodwin: powerful. Raymon Grace: I'll make a, I, I'll try to g- uh, make a picture of this award, and I'll send it to you. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Oh, I've got it. It's, it's already on my, on my, um- Kara Goodwin: On your Raymon Grace: website? in my computer somewhere. Can I show off my T-shirt today? Kara Goodwin: Yes, please. Raymon Grace: Okay, now let's see here. Yeah, there we go. " Kara Goodwin: I will not comply."

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Raymon Grace: Yep. Kara Goodwin: This is what I mean. Raymon Grace: I wore that especially for you today. Kara Goodwin: I appreciate that. I wish I had one. I love it. I love it. It's so important. It really is important, and, and, um... But I, again, just the, the big picture of this, like, f- this focus on freedom, sovereignty, and the, the kindness and the helping people, and y- then the, um, recognition from,
from the state. And even the story you're sharing about school where it's- Like you're, y- "No, that's not the right choice for me right now with my daughter. I'm not gonna comply with that." And then, you know, okay, the time comes, she goes in, and then there is this beautiful relationship that you have with, because there's a recognition of the benefit that you're bringing forth Raymon Grace: Well, what happened?

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Three years later, April had been involved, after she went to school, she had been involved in, uh, various, uh, school projects, and there was a dinner being held for the kids who had made outstanding achievements, and there was 300 people there that day. The school superintendent was on the other side of the crowd. He saw me. He goes through 300 people to come to shake hands. We didn't make enemies. We made a friend. Kara Goodwin: See? Absolutely. Yeah. It's, it's really remarkable.
It's really beautiful. Raymon Grace: Well, just treat people as well as you can, but if it- Mm ... they want you to do something, maybe they've got regulations. They told me they had laws that people had to come to school. Well, we're not gonna abide by them. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Change the laws. Kara Goodwin: Right. Raymon Grace: Or ignore us, whatever you wanna do. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Uh, and that's what happened. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Um, so,

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uh, again, you can do this, if you got confidence, you can do this without offending people and without, uh, having people pick on you. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: And the, the, the word is confidence. You gotta believe in yourself. Kara Goodwin: Yes. Raymon Grace: Uh, and people ask me, "How do you do these things?" Well, my first answer is, "I didn't know I couldn't." The second answer is, "I believed I could." Kara Goodwin:
Right. Yeah. Raymon Grace: Each one is equally important. Kara Goodwin: Yes. Beautiful. Well, I just have one more question for you, which is I saw a really powerful video with you, um, sharing a list of things that you recommend people check for when you're dowsing, and there was a, a specific protocol that you offered for people. So what things would you recommend that people are regularly checking for energetically? Raymon Grace: Well,

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it depends on the conditions. Can you give me a... Oh, okay. Can, um, can we use a condition of people wanting to clean up a school for the kids? Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Okay. 'Cause that's usually one of my things. Now, this is what I use, is a, is a bullet on a chain, and, uh, I tell... Uh, some people are afraid of bullets. I say, "Well, in that case, don't buy one. Get you one with a rock on it or something." But, um, number
one, I look for entities or possessions, because if a person is possessed, then they're not going to have the same type of mentality. Their, their, their brain just is not gonna work well. Now, doing an exorcism is so simple. People have complicated these things, but it's... there's no reason to complicate them. All I do is take the entities out of the person, send them on to another dimension where they need to go. That is the limit

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of all I do for an exorcism. Kara Goodwin: Really? Raymon Grace: People... Yeah, these people that have to complicate everything, I don't believe anything they do. Uh, I really don't. Keep it simple, folks. Uh, now, you need to learn how to do it, and I will explain it better if you, in that film, Change Your Energy, Change Your Life. I show you how to do an exorcism. Not only that, I realize that most people will not have the courage to do this
themselves. So I designed a film that all you have to do is direct the energy in that film to your school that you want to clean up. Well, some people, uh, they, they get afraid of the word exorcism. All exorcism means is remove the negative entity from, uh, from the person or the place or whatever. Now, there's certain places that will have more entities than others. Uh, the worst is probably hospital. No, the worst is jails. Maximum security prisons

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are the worst place on the planet. Uh, then there's hospitals, funeral homes. Um, those are the, probably the most places of wh- of the places where most entities would be found. But then, uh, there's bars, churches. Uh, no offense to the religious people out there, but most churches are possessed. And if you doubt this, learn how to dial and find out for yourself. Don't take
my word for it. Not all of them are, but most of them are. So things that people think are really good places are not necessarily that way. Um, and, uh- The place where, any places where there's lots of people gathered, there's usually going to be some entities in the crowd. That doesn't mean the people are bad, uh, and it doesn't mean that everyone that has an entity is a bad

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person. It depends on the degree of them, as, as I said earlier, and I can tell which ones are just an aggravation and which ones are really dangerous, and there are some very dangerous people out there. Um, so the best way to handle that is remove the entities of any dangerous person, and, uh, that, that causes them to be less dangerous. That's how we stop serial killers. I've stopped a lot of serial killers in my life
simply by depossession. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: I didn't know them. I didn't know who they were. I'll give you a story. This was on, uh, I believe Highway 7 out of Charlottesville, Virginia, heading south. There was what was known as the, uh, Highway 7, uh, Killer, and he had killed, I think, seven women, seven or eight. By getting them to pull over on the side of the road, he would rape and kill them. And the, the,

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um, police come to me for help, and I said, "Well, I can't tell you who he is. I don't know," but I said, "I bet I can stop him." They never had another incident for seven years after that. Now, I didn't know who he was. I still never got the name, but seven years later, he pulled over another woman. She recognized him. He shot himself. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: That's what happened So we stopped the Highway 7 killer. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: Took seven
years to do it, but he didn't kill anyone else during those seven years. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. So is that one of... Would that be one of the steps of the protocol that you would recommend, is, is removing any entities? Raymon Grace: That is the first thing you do. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: First off, you determine if they have entities. Second thing you do is get rid of them. Kara Goodwin: Okay. Raymon Grace: And, uh, then you also check

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for, uh, negative emotions. There are, I believe, uh, Dr. Bradley Nelson discovered it. Brad- Dr. Bradley Nelson's a friend of mine, and he wrote a book called Emotion Code. And, uh, he discovered that there were 60 negative emotions possible. Well, I had found 60, but I didn't believe it. And when he told me that he had written a book about 60 negative emotions, I said, "Well, that's what I found, but I just couldn't, I couldn't identify that many."
He did. He, he gave a name to all 60 of them. I wasn't able to do that. But, um, uh, a- anyone, uh, wants to get his book called Emotion Code, he lists them all in there and what they're like. I don't even bother to identify them, I just get rid of them. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: And w- oh, let me say this. The way you, uh, get rid of negative emotions, this is gonna make me sound like a flower child. Uh, but, uh, you transform them into love.

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It's that simple. You just pick up your pendulum, say, "I want to transform all those negative emotions in that person's body into love." You can change the behavior of a person that simple. Kara Goodwin: Wow. Raymon Grace: You see, all this stuff is so simple, but people want to complicate it. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: That's why I win. I keep it simple. Kara Goodwin: Right. So transfer the negative emotions into love. Raymon Grace: Yep. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. And- Raymon Grace:
And, and there's a lot of good people, good, honest people, that have negative emotions. They have anger, hate, fear, grief, all these things. They don't need them. Negative emotions are not gonna, not gonna be good for you. You're not gonna make any money off of them, so- ... Kara Goodwin: uh, Raymon Grace: just you don't need them. Get rid of them. Turn them into self-love. Or if you don't think you need that, turn them into prosperity. You see, the trick is here, what I'd like to get

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across, is you can transform any negative emotion into whatever you want. See, it's the power of the mind Mm-hmm And that's, is really what I teach, is the power of a focused mind. Now, your mind has to be focused in order to do it. You can't do it while you're thinking of a dozen other things at the same time. Kara Goodwin: Right. Yeah. Raymon Grace: That's why if someone asks me a question, "Okay, wait just a minute," and they start asking another... "Hold it. Stop. Don't say another word to me until I
answer your first question." You gotta train people how to treat you. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. 'Cause Raymon Grace: I can't focus if they're con- constantly, uh, blabbing about something. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: And I just tell them, "Be quiet." Uh, I, I'm blunt. Yeah, why? Because it's necessary. Not because I want to be, because it's a necessity. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: And, uh, so let me say this, and I s- I think I've already said it. I wanna say it again. You gotta train people how to treat

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you. Kara Goodwin: Yeah Yeah. I love that. Well, are there any other things that you wanna share that people- Well, the s- ... should check for? Raymon Grace: Well, mm, well, a, a lot of times good people work in bad conditions, and they may be working with 100 people, and half of those m- people may be possessed. So any, uh, any clients I have, I ask them, "Well, how
many people do you work with?" And sometimes it may be a few hundred. Well, if that is true, then these people are going to need a cleanup, and the larger the group, the worse it, it gets usually. And also, the type of, uh, work that they do. Government offices always need cleaning up. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: Always. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: And that's

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probably about the worst. Um, but it can, it can be done, but it will probably need to be done more often. You can't do one cleanup on a person or a group and expect it to last forever. Energy work is like taking a bath. It's just not gonna last forever. Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Raymon Grace: You'll have to do it again. But if you, uh, take entities away from people, take them out of their environment, uh, take negative emotions away from them, transform negative emotions into love, that will pretty much
take care of it. Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Raymon Grace: Wow. This stuff is simpler than people think it is. Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Raymon Grace: Much, much simpler. Kara Goodwin: That's amazing. Well, Raymond, this has just been another fascinating conversation. I'm so grateful for you to be here. Thank you so much. Thank you for all the work that you're doing to help people, and thank you so much for coming on today. Raymon Grace: Well, I like to talk to you. You ask intelligent questions. You make it easy

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for me. So yes, I appreciate the invitation, and I hope you get a million listeners out there. Kara Goodwin: Thank you so much. Thank you, Raymond. Raymon Grace: Okay. Bye-bye. Kara Goodwin: Bye. Thank you so much for joining me for this episode of Soul Elevation. If someone in your life would be inspired or uplifted by what you heard today, please take a moment to share it with
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