654. Biology of the Soul: How We Are Wired for Ascension & Infinite Creation - Geraldine Orozco

[00:00:00] Welcome to Soul Elevation: Guiding Your Ascension to New Heights. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. I was so excited to welcome back Geraldine Orozco in this episode, and she goes deep into the human biology and how it connects with spiritual awakening. This is the type of thing you don't hear a lot of people getting into, such as the chemical processes relating to the chakra system and the Taoist Dantians.

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Geraldina Orozco is an international educator and researcher whose work pioneers the comprehensive model of biospiritual anatomy and consciousness-based healing. With a clinical background in hypnotherapy and trauma transformation, she [00:01:00] specializes in the bioelectrical communication networks that shape cognition, behavior, and human evolution.

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome Geraldine. I'm so excited to have you back on. Thank you for coming on Soul Elevation

GeraldineOrozco.com: Hi, Kara. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here

Kara Goodwin: Well, I just loved our last discussion. You were my guest in episode 608. So if listeners haven't heard that one yet, I highly encourage you to go check that out. It was amazing. We covered, we covered a lot of ground, and also it felt like we scratched the surface because you're this wealth of knowledge, and there were so many ways we could have taken the conversation. So as I say, I'm really excited that we get to keep going today. Uh, we talked about in that episode the bioelectric nature of the body, the threat of transhumanism, the connection of emotion and memory access, and the role of healing in activating our DNA. So there's a lot there for listeners to learn in that episode.

Be sure you check it out. I'll have a link in the [00:03:00] show notes for easy access to that. for now, can you please give us a quick intro of your work and expertise for anyone who needs to still catch up on that episode?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah. Thank you. So my name is Geraldine Orozco. I'm an epigenetic psychotherapist and a clinical hypnotherapist. I also have, um, a plethora of different research and work in energy healing arts, like pranic healing, um, qigong, tai chi. Um, and so which I kind of dove into after a life-changing interdimensional experience, which allowed me to activate psychic abilities for the first time.

And as a result of that, um, this is where I began to become curious about, you know, the biology, the connection to the body. How is it possible that we can activate psychic abilities as a result of an experience like that? And what does that entail in the body? And so, um, with psychic abilities, I did a huge research on the [00:04:00] physical body to see the connection, to see how energy moves, how does information move in us, and how is it-- how is it presented.

Um, I began to research, um, uh, you know, energy runway maps from ancient Taoist- Right ... uh, literature that allowed me to really, really, um, understand that my psychic abilities were quite accurate, comparing them with what I was picking up and what I was seeing in other people. So that's where I started.

Kara Goodwin: That's fascinating. So with the Taoist tradition, there's the dantians, right? Like

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah. Mm-hmm

Kara Goodwin: dantians, am I correct?

GeraldineOrozco.com: right, yes

Kara Goodwin: the Hindu tr- well, the, the more yogic kind of path, there's more of the focus on the chakra system. And then traditional Chinese medicine, it's more the, the meridian system. I know less about the dantians, but I'm curious about them, and how do they

Since there are three of them, they kind of line up in any [00:05:00] way with the chakra system or with the ch- the meridian system, or are they kind of their own separate thing?

GeraldineOrozco.com: So 100% they align, which is the beauty, because we kind of see all these cross-sections of all information that we can kind of put together through history. Um, so the Dantians, uh, refer to, uh... They're like, uh, kettles of information or gathering of energy and life force. And so essentially, the chakra system is a more kind of, uh, broken down system, and it's basically a self-organizing scale of life force in the body from lowest frequency to highest frequency in the body.

And so the beauty of the physical body is that it self-organizes that information. In the Dantians, we're talking about the collection of those different octaves of information. So in the root sacral solar, which are the energy centers that in exchange and interchange and manage this physical realm, super connected to the endocrine system, our [00:06:00] creation energy system, our emotional bioelectrical system in the body, and that together is creating the lower Dantian.

Uh, then the, the central Dantian, which is the heart, the throat, the third eye, and then we have the Shen, the, the higher realms, the higher, um, octave elements of our body, the higher faculty systems, which is the se- uh, sixth, seventh, eighth chakra, which is the spiritual aspect of ourself. So there's definitely an overlap, um, but the way that it's explained is, is very beautiful actually because it's kind of like the next step.

You, you understand the chakra system, but how do you then integrate them in order to access higher faculty abilities is the integration of these Dantian centers. So it's the unification. In, in alchemy, in those studies, in the Gnostic texts, we talk about the internal alchemical marriage, um, and that's basically what it is.

When we have the internalized balance of the feminine-masculine dualities in all of these chakras, that is how we produce that integration [00:07:00] system of the Dantians, which is the collection of those energies, uh, the balancing of those energies essentially.

Kara Goodwin: Okay. And then is there like a similar kind of kundalini aspect to it? So with the chakra system, that dormant, typically for most people, it's a dormant energy at the base of the spine, and then there's that oil. I mean, talking about alchemy, like there's the, the oil that rises from that and transmutes and helps to integrate and activate. Um, is there a similar kind of mechanism from the Daoist perspective?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yes, absolutely. Um, and so kundalini really just means life force. It's a collection and movement of that life force. Um, and when people have kundalini awakenings, we tend to think that it's mostly the root or the sacral that is moving, but really it's all of the chakras that need to go through those kundalini [00:08:00] awakenings.

So it's an incremental process. Um, and in the Taoist, uh, you know, schools, um, we also talk about the collection of Shen, which is a result of the balancing of the lower dantian. It's the integration of the lower dantians, which is exactly the same thing, right? The, the waking up of that energy, the dormant energy.

In reality, the energy is awake when we're born. It's, it's quite awake in the first seven years of our life. From the womb until the first seven years, it's already quite developed. Um, but, you know, for conditioning, indoctrination, learning, en-environmental, um, imprints, we learn how to kind of lessen the activation of that information.

We numb it down. So really we're kind of going through this cycle where we then have to reopen the centers that we have numbed down and closed down. And from there, it's a practice of cul-cultivation of gathering of the Shen, right? Which is the ability to access this, the connecting to the field. And [00:09:00] in other schools, it's, uh, the Shen, the collection of that, uh, holographic DNA, that field of infinite memory, which is the remembering of everything that you are interdimensionally, um, is essentially the collection of that, that, uh, creative, higher creative power.

So in the lower dantian, we create in the physical material. In the higher dantian, it's the activation of the creation in the higher realms. So, you know, just like in alchemy, we create the oil, which then produces melatonin. DMT allows us to have visions that are clear in our out-of-body experiences. So the Shen is, is the same.

It's that spiritual, um... It's a library. It's, uh, it's essentially the Akashic Records. It's that holographic library of information that is available to us.

Kara Goodwin: Ooh, that's so exciting. I, I

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: this. Um, so when we think about that, and you're talking about the lower, the lower Dante and the lower chakras being the [00:10:00] creation, like the manifestation in the physical realm, and then the higher ones being the creation in the spiritual realms. How do we connect these things?

Because I think that when it comes to, let's call it manifestation, but you know, w- in this physical world what we desire and the reality that we d- we, um, desire and we aspire to. I know a lot of people get stuck between the intention and they're, you know, they're maybe working in those higher centers.

They're, they're focusing, they're visualizing, they're, you know, whatever. But then when it actually comes to bringing it through into the physical world, it's, um ... There maybe there's a disconnect, or I don't know. Is there, is there a biological element to that that people can tap into?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Well, absolutely. Um, you see, we don't really manifest really, um, [00:11:00] until we've really learned how to control our desires, and there's a difference between that because creating from desires usually is a repetition of a pattern, a learned pattern that is usually based in survival. Okay, so a lot of... We're not really creating.

We're just repeating. And so a lot of people, they kind of disconnect that understanding of what is real manifestation. Real manifestation is really happening from the crown, okay? What does that mean? Because the crown is going now into the higher levels of bringing infinite potential into the Earth's physical manifestation.

That's actually real manifestation. And When we create from that perspective, we're kind of coming into harmonic order, and our creations are no longer self-serving for the desires or the survival mechanisms or the parts that want to still feel, you know, and the sensations of the physical. It's now what is [00:12:00] good for this whole system, this or-organized system that has now gone through that alchemical union, the balancing of feminine, masc-masculine imp- uh, imbalanced perceptions, in order to know what is actually in harmony with everything, the Earth, you, me, all of the, uh, beings on this Earth.

And that is actually real manifestation to be able to access those, um, levels of co-creation. Now, creating from the desires, which is, you know, all the impulses for survival that we have, um, in all of these schools, we talk about cleaning and kind of removing all of those kind of, um, it... And kind of, uh, what it is, is, is finding your truth because up until that point, you're probably not aware of where you're functioning from.

It re-it requires you to practice a pause before your actions in order to catch exactly what are your true intentions. Majority of humans don't really know what their intentions are. [00:13:00] It requires a kind of mindful observation, uh, non-judgmental observation. And so once we can understand that, um, we can break away from these cyclical patterns of, of just repetition, you know?

Um, and so again, honestly, we don't really touch free will, we don't really access any of that, um, creative potential until the human starts to break away from repeated patterns. These are ancestral patterns, family traumas, internal traumas that they have accumulated e-even after that. Um, and then in the dream world, we also have a lot of un-unresolved, um, debris and concepts that are still cleaning up in our space.

All of this is recorded in our DNA, and it's passed down through generations, so we have our children that are also accumulating all of that. And I think the simple word for that is karma, which is cause and effect. But to be aware, to be aware of [00:14:00] that cause and effect, take responsibility for your actual creations, is a whole different, um, way of interacting in a creative-- as a creator.

Um, we are pure creators. We have definitely manifested here in the physical Earth to experience pure creation. Um, but we don't, uh, we're not taught the, you know, the mechanics of that. What do we have to learn? What has to be balanced in the body? And we can talk deeper about that, the biology specifically.

Um, but this is something that is, is, is passed down, something we break away

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. Right. Well, do you wanna get in a little into the biology a little

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah, sure. Absolutely

Kara Goodwin: So what does that look like in terms of, of, you know, manifestation and the biological, the bio- the biological inputs into that?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Mm-hmm. Yeah, so think of it this way, um, from the womb until the age of seven, you have absorbed, you have this incredible [00:15:00] nervous system. You are like a sponge that is absorbing all of the information around you through vibrational frequency first. Uh, that vibrational frequency can be sound, words, emotions, feelings, sensations, everything that you experience inside the womb during the gestation period.

And because DNA is a holographic field of information, you're not only... And, and the DNA is within you. It interconnects you to your father, your mother. You, you feel everything. Um, and all of this information is creating, building perception, perceptual fields within you. By the time you are born, you already come in with an understanding.

Now, there's a much, much deeper layer to this, which is the month that you're born, the s- the state of the universe at the time of your birth, which is, it's captured like a photograph in that moment energetically in you, kind of defines archetypally what will be potential life experiences, right? And we c- we come into these family lineages [00:16:00] to begin with, um, kind of understanding, and we align with families that are best suited to help us learn those lessons, you can say, or the experience, pure experience, um, that is required for the evolution of your soul.

Required, uh, it's, it's really, um, it's an invitation for your soul to experience, right? And so as you are born, you're experiencing, um, these programmings and, and, um, um- ideas and perceptions of reality, by the time you're seven years old, your chakra system has learned to move and, and move itself. The chakra moves.

Each chakra, it's not a, a wheel or a vortex. It's just a vortex. It's a toroidal field. And so the entire toroidal field system, which is, you know, cr- uh, it emerges from the, uh, two, um, toroidal systems, right? Toroidal system that interlocks front and back of the body. Um, it lo- it has learned either [00:17:00] to contract or expand according to the environment, okay?

So if mother was in a constant state of fear, insecurity, it might be that her root chakra was quite contracted in the back, not a lot of movement there. The child is also gonna learn that. So we're talking psychologically, we create patterns of behavior. Biologically, bioelectrically, the nervous system of the body starts to repeat patterns that are being reinforced in, in our environment.

And bioelectrically is really important because the connection between the bioelectrical charge is how we express emotions, how we input emotions in the body directly is connected to how your field can expand or contract. And, um, emotions also, they have a dualistic nature. Um, the chakras have a feminine-masculine element to it.

So, uh, the back of the body is the feminine, the front of the body is the masculine. And so however you learned from father and mother to embody [00:18:00] those, those emotions, the, the contraction of the chakras start to kind of crystallize in the body. And the connection is that that is how perceptions are created, fields of perceptions.

Literally, the body will expand or contract depending on how. And so the root chakra can be really, really expanded, overactive all the time in a state of constant state of survival. Um, your, your crown can be very contracted, not moved at all And so the invitation is really that as we, as we develop, um, there's another layer to that when we go through puberty because when we go through puberty, then we have a whole another system that's really complex hormonally that comes online, and it's another set of, um, frequencies that are available in the body.

It-- The whole structure of the human body changes for both men and women energetically in this here, um, aspect of the chakra system. The sacral, the throat, and the third eye start to develop into another level, and higher faculties can be available. So [00:19:00] a lot of times, children by that age, by the time they hit puberty, if they go into, um, sexual behavior really early, um, they can have a, um, a disconnect with their intuitive capacities or a complete enhancement depending on how they learn to manage that energy, okay?

And so, um, by the time you are old enough to review and you start to realize these patterns, um, the deprogramming of those belief systems changes bioelectrically, and essentially we learn how to regulate the nervous system. The regulation of the nervous system is the key because that is what opens the pathways in order for you to begin to move and modulate the chakra system.

And then from there, um, uh, the integration of those chakras is the creation of these dantian centers, which then allow you to access memory, right? So a f- a sign of higher spiritual evolution is that you begin to recover your memory, your childhood memory, your past [00:20:00] lives, future lives, interdimensional, um, uh, lives that you are exist-- experiencing simultaneously, usually in dream.

In dream state, you're experiencing those. Um, so yeah. So we-- you tell me where you wanna go from there.

Kara Goodwin: Well, this is so fascinating. That-- it's-- it makes so much sense, and I've never thought about how the hormones, I mean, essentially is, is what you were saying. But you said the sacral and the throat and the crown and with puberty, and how it's a new set of frequencies that we access. I'm like, uh, that kinda blew my mind.

I, I'd never really thought about that before, and it makes total sense we've really changed so much, and I feel like, like you say, from zero to seven, there's such a, uh, you know, there's so much changing happening so quickly in that time. And then you've got puberty. And then even as we age, then everybody kinda moves through another portal where-- that-- related to [00:21:00] hormones and, you know, women experience it as menopause, and men, you know, have their own menopause or whatever they

it.

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yes

Kara Goodwin: not quite as physical maybe, or not quite as, um, know... I, I don't know how to quantify that compared to what women go through, but I don't feel like it's as acknowledged. But, you know, another time where we're deal-- Maybe there's another frequency aspect to that period of life, too. I don't know

GeraldineOrozco.com: There is, yeah. So we go through three phases. So by the time-- so in ancient times, we were taught the laws of creation, the laws of the universe by that puberty, which is why coming into the world and having those rituals of entering into the community as a creator was so important. But before you reach that point...

Because creation, right? Now you can create life, both men and women, after you go through puberty. Um, but, you know, all of those [00:22:00] practices and all the teachings of actual alchemical sex, for example, have completely been buried by the church and other systems that have completely, um, taken that very powerful creative understanding.

Um, and it's really the point in which the humanity matures because if you don't understand that your creation, your, your juices and the life force of creation is so potent, um, you don't understand how to take responsibility. You know, and that's something that we really have forgotten completely. We think of sex as something for pleasure, which is the inversion of natural order.

Um, and we chase the orgasmic state completely unconscious of what that is. Um, really, our entire life is-- can be a state of bliss, a state of orgasmic, um, co-creation, but it's a whole different thing. It's not attached to the physical body. It's not about physical pleasure. It's about, [00:23:00] um, a harmonic state of co-creation, which is a completely different thing.

And so,

yeah. And so, uh, when we go through puberty, um, the-- so the chakra system, I, I didn't mention earlier, is the endocrine system, uh, which is, you know, biologically, it's completely interconnected to the endocrine system. It manages all the different systems of the body. It's in charge of secreting the chemicals, the biochemicals that we feel when we feel emotions, which is why for a human to gain its power, it has to learn how to master its first three chakras, especially the solar plexus, the center of power, which is the emotional center.

If you have no power over your emotions, you have no creative power, essentially. So, you know, this is the integration of those centers is what now causes, um, a more, uh, refined way of creating

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. Yes, that makes so much sense. Well, you know, you [00:24:00] talk about the harmonic order and, and to our lives and to our, our human expression. I remember when I watched you in, in a talk at the New Living Expo, uh, you shared about geometry in relation to multidimensionality, which was really fun for me because I had also given a talk earlier about, um at the expo, and it was on geometry and the geometry, like our personal geometry or kind of geometric signature. Um, but you talk about harmonic order, I immediately kinda go to a geometric kind of harmony. Um, and I know there are a lot of different ways a musician might hear that, and they start thinking about octaves and so forth 'cause it's all the same thing, but we, we kinda relate to it in our own way.

But what do ... what could you share with us about geometry in relation to multidimensionality?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah. So yesterday I actually [00:25:00] just taught a class on love, on the actual embodiment of love, which we touched on this topic. Um, and I think it's, it's really im-important to understand the geometry because the human body has the potential of embodying all the platonic solids. The platonic solids are complex geometric forms, um, which are at the base elements of creation of this universe.

What does that mean? Uh, it's basically, um, you know, you are the universe, as above, so below. Your body is a fractal of this universe. But how you are able to sustain that wholeness and become aware, conscious of that wholeness will depend on how you can move light through your body. So, um, every time, uh, wh-when we incarnate in this dimension, the third dimensional plane, imagine a prism of white light.

It shines through the prism and it refracts into the different colors. And so the human body is that. It's the product of that refraction. Um, the [00:26:00] self-organizing element of these rainbow colors, which is the frequencies, there are ranges of frequencies in the body, um, through DNA, uh, we hold those frequencies in our entire system.

It's programmed in the human body. And so what happens is that if we close off, uh, like we were mentioning earlier, uh, we un- our, our chakra system is underdeveloped. Our ability to clean out those programmings becomes underdeveloped. Our chakras are underdeveloped, therefore, the way that we move light through the body, which are these refraction mechanisms of light, they're self-organizing systems of light.

Light is information. It's infinite potential. So the, the more we are disconnected or we have stagnant systems, the less we can move that life force freely through the body. The body is a toroidal system as a result of all of these micro toroidal systems. And so when those become blocked or contracted, the-- we're not [00:27:00] moving.

Nothing's moving. This toroidal system is barely moving. Um, and so what happens is that the geometry that is produced by the organization of that light becomes more, um, simplified and more, um, limited. So when we begin to develop, and so we were talking about the heart, for example, yesterday, um, that the cultivation of the lower dantians, which then allow you to open your heart.

I teach, um, the, the mastery of the energy system, which when we're naturally intuitive, our first three chakras shrink down because the first three chakras are the connection to the physical realm. When we shrink them down, that means we're-- they're not overactive. They're not out of balance. The body can now move that life force into the higher realms of the heart, the throat, and the third eye, which is your vision, and you start to activate.

The activation of DNA, that's what that means. It's the [00:28:00] cultivation of the expansion of your awareness into higher available frequencies in your body. You're expanding your range of perception. And so redirecting that life force from the physical, which usually when we're completely em-enmeshed in the physical realm, we become centrifugal.

Okay? So this toroidal energy sym-system is now depleting creative life force. As opposed to gathering creative life force, you become centripetal. That is an entire mechanism where we're redirecting that creative life force up into the higher faculties of ourselves. We, we activate senses. What it means then on a psychological, emotional, biological, you're refining your senses.

You're training yourself in the zero point, so you now have a non-judgmental observation of your entire system, and that's, that's the, that's the actual embodiment of love. And what happens as a result of that is that you start to activate and expand your heart. Usually when you have a lot of [00:29:00] trauma and a lot of experiences, your heart won't even open.

You'll notice the heart maybe in the front will open, the back will barely open. Um, and that's because we have a lot of, uh, limitation of how we can, uh, access our perception. Our perception is very limited. And so as we clean that up and expand the perception, now light can move and what-- the first form that we, we, we take many forms and the chakras help us see those forms that we can take.

Um, but we begin to develop the Merkabah, for example. Okay, so the Merkabah, which is this tetrahedral system, um The closing of the lower, the, the bottom point is the representation of the closing of the lower chakra systems, redirection of that energy. Okay? So you'll notice in some of the, um, more occult systems, you know, the star is upside down, everything is pointing down, it's expanding down into the system.

Um, actually, you know, it's the redirection of that energy upward. [00:30:00] And where does it move? It moves up here to the heart center, and the to- uh, the, the toroidal, um, energy system is wider in the center because the heart has to be governing the physical plane. When the heart is not governing the physical plane, we have no creative power.

The Merkabah is the first geometric structure from which we can then create, actually. And so we redirect that energy up to the higher centers of the crown, the, you know, seven-- sixth, seventh, and eighth chakra, which are the centers of the connection with the higher self and the connection with the source.

And so genetically, we then... That means psychologically you are expanding your memory into your, your entire history, the Akashic records of everything that you are. And so next other forms that you can take is this dodecahedral and, and on and on, these different, um, forms. And what it really [00:31:00] means is that in dodecahedron, if you can sustain visualizing this energy system of all of these faces of this geometry, it-- in order to do that, we need to expand our perception to be able to hold many truths at once.

It's very difficult for the human because the human, um, we, we think about me and the other, and that's it. That's a, that's a dualistic mentality. So it's the expansion in the range of perception into a multidimensional ability to s- to sustain the most horrible things that are true about yourself, as well as the most beautiful things that are true.

To sustain that is how you exercise the expansion of the range of perception. Energetically, you're expanding the range of frequency that you can hold in the body, okay? Because before that, remember, we're like a funnel system, nothing's coming through. So the expansion of that is to be able to hold and sustain much higher frequencies, much [00:32:00] lower frequencies through the body.

And that's... Psychologically, that's truths. Can you handle very, very deep truths, more expansive states of consciousness? Can you come into that collective unity consciousness, um, of being able to perceive things, uh, everything within yourself, and still sustain the zero point while being, uh, perceptually being able to process these experiences?

And so the human body, this is how we develop the refined higher faculties of seeing more of the non-physical r- realm The more you can sustain, um, these truths, the more becomes available to you. So you can see non-physical elements, you can see beings, interdimensional beings, ETs as they call them. Um, everything now comes into the sphere of the human.

And so we incrementally learn how to become masters of this, uh, [00:33:00] realms, many, many realms, and we come more-- into more complex geometric structures of information. And so in the human body, um, you know, by the time it reaches really higher geometric forms, of course, it's, it disincarnates, right? And the, the Tibetans talked about the rainbow body, which is the ability to hold all of those colors within the system, organize them, you know, and, and move on.

So this is basically what that, uh, means in the body, and you can't create that structure by imagining it. A lot of people think, you know, you just see it, and it's gonna happen. Absolutely not. In order to create these complex geometric systems, we have to deprogram psychologically, nervous system regulation.

You need to learn how to move the chemicals in the body in order for them not to come into destructive cycles of contraction in the field, but rather creative. And there's, there's a structure of creation. The first [00:34:00] structure of pure creation is the Merkabah, which requires you to come from the heart, and that requires, um, a lot of non-judgmental observation and healing of all the dualities that you have within yourself.

Um, that's actually how you create that.

Kara Goodwin: Well, thank you. That makes a lot of sense, and it's in a ... Y- you've shared things that I've never heard before, which completely makes sense. And one of the things that, um, that you touched on was in the occult, we might see things like you mentioned, you know, a, a, um, downward-facing pentagon or, or, um, and, and the bigger picture with that.

But it does make me think about ... Because you were saying you can't just visualize this. You've gotta really embody it, and there are different, physiological things that you need to do, and I'm sure there are, like, psychological mastery and, and we need to become the master of ourselves. bringing up the occult and magic, you know, I

It makes me think, like, okay, geometries are [00:35:00] used in magic, and there are definitely people who are, are creating and creating, like, a, a very successful, let's say, you know, human, a human, um, definition of success but, you know, using magic to create things um ... And they, you know, because of the actions that we find out about behind the scenes, it's like, well, they're certainly not embodying, you know, deep wisdom.

They're not creating from their heart, you know? And, and so it's interesting because the ... Knowing that geometry is used in magic and so forth, I don't know if there's anything that you ... that comes to mind on that topic

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's different ways of creating, but there's also the responsibility of creation. So I mean, you see people that are doing very bad things are very wealthy or whatever. [00:36:00] They have everything. They-- it's perceived it-- from the normal person perceiving outside seems like they're very successful doing things that are against nature.

But you see, the laws of this universe are more complex than that. Our mind is compartmentalizing things in good and bad all the time, but there is a higher order to things, and, um, there is a natural balance. We exist in a three-dimensional realm. There's always duality. So that being said, even if they have all those things, there's a cause and effect to that.

There's a, there's, um, a responsibility that they will have to take for that. And no person is without the cause and effect of their creations, okay? So it-- I mean, this is a, this is a realm of creation. As I mentioned, we're here to experience pure creation. There's no right or wrong in the life that you experience.

So I mean, in terms of geometry, um, how you are, uh, you know, it, it affects [00:37:00] longevity. So you, you create a merkaba on your body, and you can access longevity. You can access healing for the body. So if you really, really study the lives of people that actually are creating from a place of, you know, anger, pain, there, there, there's no, uh, system, there's no complete system that goes without that side effects, whatever it is, you know?

So, um, it, it really is the mindset, and this is where we start getting out of these ideas that, you know, there's good and bad. We, we don't understand the higher laws of creation, um Oh, and, and also, um, what is actually a natural order because our, our perception of reality is inverted. For example, sometimes, um, we see something and we think it's bad, but we don't know what are the things that are...

have each individual person of that experience has actually gone through in order to access that experience. We need sometimes these terrible experiences, [00:38:00] and we have these contractual agreements to co-create together. So, you know, the geometry of the body is one thing. If we're talking about entering into higher dimensional realms, um, activating these higher capacities through the cleansing of the, the, the traumas and, and these limiting systems is how to access into these higher dimensions of wisdom.

But most people that are creating, they're not too interested in that. You know, they're not really interested. They're interested in control and power, and that has a limitation. You know? So that control and that power helps them master the physical realm, but they can't enter into higher dimensional realms.

And of course, again, as I mentioned, there's always a responsibility. So I mean, in all the history of time, there were ma- magi's and people that have had tremendous amount of creative power and misuse that. Um, it's not to say that that's bad because again, there's a harmonic order, so everything is [00:39:00] necessary.

Um, and it's all about... it's about the free will, which is the ability to experience and co-create, co-co-experience things. So it's not so black and white. Um, and it also-- you can cultivate the abilities to master matter, but it doesn't mean that you're free from the side effects of that. There's a lot of responsibility that will affect you either in this lifetime or in the next lifetime or in whatever creative system you choose to experience.

Um, our concepts of right or wrong are sometimes, um, uh, we, we don't really know how to discern them yet because our perceptions are usually coming from fear and security, the need for security, the need for safety, um, and that limits our perception of truth. So when you expand your perception, and this is why trauma work is so important, you won't be able to cultivate that perception unless you do that work with yourself.

So you look at that experience as a child where [00:40:00] you were abused and begin to observe other people in that and, and see other perceptio- perspectives. What happened there? Learn from those human experiences to be able to develop a more mature perception of that, and essentially, we detach from the physical form.

And that allows you to see beyond that and to see much broader laws, the laws of the universe, of how we interrelate, how we intercreate, um, you know, experiences. So that, that's the only thing I would say on that.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, I, I love that. That makes a lot of sense, too. you've been talking about how as we, we get our faculties, our, our higher perceptional, pers- pers... Yeah, perceptional? Is that the right word? Higher perspective, perceptions with the, the higher chakras, how that comes in and we might be able to start [00:41:00] accessing, like, other dimensions, and, our psychic gifts and, and some of the things that might be dormant for people right now. I'm curious about your own interdimensional experiences, because I know you've had, uh, you have galactic contact, you have interdimensional contact. Um, we talked a little bit about your Pleiadian origins and the, on the planet Maia last time. But I wonder, um, what, what floats up that you might wanna share on that topic?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah. So as a result of my experience in two thousand and thirteen of having the experience that we talked about last time, um, a couple things happened. Number one, I was able to activate psychic abilities. Number two, um, I was introduced to little children that were supposed to be hybrid children.

And so that really completely... What shook me was that [00:42:00] I was entering into a dimension, and I began to recover memories that I had not had access to prior to that moment. And understand that this is-- When this happened to me, I was in four months of deep, deep meditation. I was in a retreat for four months.

I, I had my own business, and I took time off to, to do this because I had some really profound questions I needed answered. And I would meditate up to nine hours a day, traveling in through the memories of my emotions, cleaning, working with that. And what I discovered is that when you reach root of emotions, you uncover memories, not just your own memories.

You begin to uncover memories of your family members. So I began to uncover, um, remote viewing, um, my family, remote viewing the scenarios myself as a child first, then going on to my parents, then their lives, my grandparents' life. It began to open up the entire ancestral history going all the way back to the origin.

Um, I'm [00:43:00] talking, you know, South America, Europe, Egypt, you know, you name it, keep going there. And then at that point, when I began to question what was before these points, Egypt wasn't the point of origin. There was other points, other systems and times. Um, I discovered that there's non-human intelligence that was on this planet and also other dimensional planes.

It was at that point that I had this contact experience which answered some of those questions, and it was a conscious experience. It wasn't something in a dre- in a, in a unconscious state. I remember everything exactly perfectly. And so that's where they showed me that I was Pleiadian and had these children.

And the memories that recover-- that I recovered were of having these children in other dimensional planes and experiencing them. And it shocked me that we have such profound... We're living simultaneous lives. So the life that you're [00:44:00] living right now is definitely not the only one you have. You're interdimensionally interacting.

In fact, all the choices you make in this lifetime, in this current life, are affecting these simultaneous lives. Everything is simultaneous. There's no past, there's no future at all, and that's the part that was so mind-bending for me. But in addition to that, there's another layer of memory that we are recovering, which is everything that you unconsciously experience and things that are regressed into the subconscious in the dream state, for example, even our dreams are us accessing other dimensions.

So I began to recover memories of experiences as a child, and they, they-- I call-- we-- they, they are called marker memories. They're memories that feel realer than real life, and they're these very key memories that I just always have in my mind. They just keep coming up. It's a scene of myself playing next to a [00:45:00] window and then a white light, and then a, and then it's like, what was that white light as a child?

What was that? Now having gone through these memories, unlocking that other layer of memories, now I understand what that was. It was an experience as a child and, you know, it took me into other dimensions and it opened up the whole element of, um, other ET contact that humans are having, you know? And so I began to, uh, I, I began to find a re-- a support group where I learned that these experiences are not rare.

It's like so many people are having them. But at the time in two thousand and thirteen, even googling, I didn't even know what to google, what word to google, and there was nothing. There was absolutely nothing online. There was very, very few articles that you have to dig through to find. But now it's everywhere, you know, this information.

Um, but the concept of the hybridization was interesting to me, and [00:46:00] that was something that I needed to understand. If there is some kind of hybridization program, what does that mean? Are we creating, uh, these hybrid children with aliens, with interdimensionals? What is actually happening? Um, and so it took me into a deep dive again in two thousand and seventeen where I had a hypnotherapy, and in that hypnotherapy I was taken even deeper into the history of the human race, where it took me to the origin of life of the human race and showed me the inception of life.

It was another layer of information that I had previously received from my meditations of following my own ancestral lineage and my connections to other dimensional beings. But it became clear to me that we have had interactions with interdimensional beings since, since forever. There's no beginning to that.

In fact, we emerge from these con-connections to these other dimensional beings, and the human race is an [00:47:00] iteration of many generations of hybridization, essentially. We are an evolution of a hybridization that originally happened. And so the concept of hybridization can be taken really dark into some of these military experiments, which is an actual thing, um, that the military is abducting in the dream state, okay?

Not even in real life. In real life too, in, in the human physical body, but there is a certain technology that is accessing the consciousness of people in their dreams, and people have experiences. So this takes things to a whole 'nother level, and now a lot of this information is finally coming out after we had the congressional hearings, and we're discussing the remote viewing programs that were, were-- that are existing here.

Um, there's documented research and experiments that have been done on the hijacking of consciousness and manipulation of consciousness, which is, you [00:48:00] know, it's wild to the average person. But for an experiencer, um, these are things that are actually happening. And so we need to understand that, um, we have to take responsibility for our creations, not only in the physical realm, but interdimensionally when you start recovering the memories of these interdimensional experiences, you know, where is your free will in those dimensions?

This is where I was conflicted about the concept of free will. Do we really have free will? Um, and I think the bigger answer is no in the bigger system because we are interconnected. We are part of an intelligence of one, this whole system of intelligence, and we are interconnected to everything.

However, within this dimensional plane, we have free will to create and experience pure creation. And we can't even touch that unless we are able to learn how our bodies are interacting in [00:49:00] these, uh, nonlinear timelines of creation. And so to do that is all going back to the basics, right? The deprogramming of your traumas, cultivation of your life force, creation of these structures of geometric systems of perception, which then allow you to begin to co-create in a way that's, again, responsibly and in alignment with harmonic law in this harmonic order.

And it's a completely different way of being. But it is a way of being that ancient shamans and indigenous, uh, systems of all around the world have maintained. They have taught, they have maintained, um, that reverence to these interdimensional, uh, libraries of information. And the other interesting thing that I discovered is that as a result of that and working with experiencers in my support group, and I became a hypnotherapist as a result of this, um, because to me it was fascinating that we would be able to-- I would be able to tap into [00:50:00] information I've never read before.

Um, for example, the term Anunnaki, Nephilim, like all of these terms that were written about, um, in some of these ancient texts I've never read before, but I was able to channel, and more than speak, I was able to see what was happening in the-- in these situations. Um, and so what does that mean? Do we tap into this, you know, non-local consciousness from which we pull and we draw this information?

And that, that is the thing that got me into the topic of ET contact Because the deeper you go down the rabbit hole of spirituality, you're met with consciousness. The deeper you go down the ro- rabbit hole of ET contact, it is consciousness, and consciousness is the link. Um, and so how do you cultivate the connection to that field?

You know. Um, so yeah, so as a result of all of this, um, basically it's learning how to master the energetic field in such a [00:51:00] way that you can, um, you can embody a free will enough to co-create in a way that is conscious and remember those experiences, whether it's the hybridization program or the contact, we are creating.

The hybridization program is so profound. I don't know if we have time to get into that right now, but essentially, what is-- what's-- what it's telling us is that we are creating in more than one timeline simultaneously. And the moment we become aware of that, we need to understand where our creation lies.

When we're dormant and unconscious, we don't remember, we don't even know. But when we wake up consciousness, we gather this knowing, and to some people, they get stuck there. They have those memories again. They're able to access that, and they get overwhelmed with what that means because we still haven't refined our understanding of creation yet.

Um, you know, and so I think the more and more we are now coming into this age of [00:52:00] disclosure, as they say, um, from starting next year, things are gonna get much, much, much more expansive and much more, um, much more real in a way that we can really understand the nature of interdimensionality. But now until, uh, twenty-- I was shown twenty thirty-seven is when this human-- the Earth is gonna completely transition into an interdimensional potential and deep learning integration.

The sciences are merging with these spiritual sciences, um, in a way that will push humanity into that deep understanding necessarily because it is, it is now all becoming available. The visibility of these beings is now becoming available for us to interact with. But we cannot forget that everything is still this holographic system in which we are co-creating on other levels, not in the physical realm.

We're creating in [00:53:00] higher realms, and so we have to learn how to do that, working with energy, with karmic contracts, with contractual agreements. Everything is resonance. The beauty about this world is that we are operating through the laws of the universe, and once we really integrate and learn those laws, it demystifies all fear of interactions with anything that is either physical or non-physical.

Um, yeah, that's what I can say.

Kara Goodwin: Wow, I love that. it's, it, it's really fascinating, and I'm particularly interested that you mention about the free will aspect. It's so many times you're, you're, like, reading my mind and then you, you ask a question, and then you're like, "So what does it...

Does this mean we have free will?" I'm like, "Yes, that's what I wanna know." Do you But, um, and you, you kind of have concluded that really, no, not the way that we think that we do, and yet there is this understanding that we are creator beings on many [00:54:00] different levels. And so it's kind of like notwithstanding the, the reality that we are interdimensional beings, and we exist in different dimensions and different, different, um...

You know, like, the way that you're talking about we go to sleep and we think we're sleeping but we're doing things in other places. How there been any sort of reconciliation within you in terms of, like, maybe we don't have free will, and yet because we are creators and we are know, the bigger nature of who we are, and there is harmonic order, sorry, harmonic order and so forth. Um, I don't know if you wanna go into that a little bit more, your thoughts about free will or

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah. I mean, you see, we do have free will, but not in the way that we think as humans because, um We tend to think free will means that we can do absolutely [00:55:00] anything, anytime, anywhere. The problem with that thinking is that we, because we're coming from a primitive concept of fear and survival, usually that means just to preserve survival and safety for most of consciousness of humanity.

And that's why our mature level of humanity, we're a very immature race in the construct of the whole. Because in the third dimensional plane, our purpose for incarnation is pure experience and it's creation. It's experience in order to learn how to create. And along with that comes the laws of creation, the responsibility of creation, the cause and effect of creation.

And we're here to learn that. And so most people barely touch the tip of the iceberg of that understanding because they're driven by their desires, their pleasures, again, their survival is the most primitive [00:56:00] aspects. So however, there is an intelligence to even that because in order for this earth to maintain its balance, the planet earth has its own consciousness.

The planet earth is a being of consciousness. It's evolving through us, with us.

The universe is evolving through us and with us because our concept of oneness is kind of flawed still. We're still thinking of us and the other. But when you start understanding what oneness really is, there is no separation.

So free will, the meaning of free will shifts a little bit. You are a pure creator, but you also create within a construct of many systems that are interconnected and also dependent on your choices. Your choices are not separate from the whole ever. And that's something that human has a very hard time conceptualizing.

You don't understand the impact of that because your vision hasn't gone [00:57:00] beyond other dimensions yet. But when you start going into other dimensions, you begin to realize the cause and effect of your creations. And it could be a depression emotion in your bedroom locked. Nobody knows. Nobody sees you except yourself.

You're sitting there crying in your emotions. You don't understand the impact of that. It has a huge impact on your bloodline through your DNA. DNA is the interface of the non-physical. And it is information that is recorded. There is no action that you take that is not recorded in the greater system of things.

So when you think of free will, we kind of negate that. We don't even conceptualize that understanding of things. And it requires us to mature to that level. Because that's why it's called co-creation, to, to actually co-create, and that requires you to mature. Um, through these experiences, I have visited many advanced civilizations, and the [00:58:00] intelligence of those civilizations is that they interact telepathically.

And what that means to be in the presence of that is just incredible. They are a mind that is operating beyond the ego self of self-preservation. It is one mind that has a deep understanding of what the entire human race, the entire race of those beings has to do for their evolution, and that doesn't come without its issues.

the, the level of authenticity that an organism would have to embody in order to create from that level is very different, and that, that's what it means to have a construct of a different vibrational frequency. these next few years are going to push us into maturity because of the nature of the evolutionary things that are gonna be changing.

Um, with AI, we have a model of a faster computing intelligence that is kind of mimicking that kind of [00:59:00] collective consciousness. It's mimicking. It's never going to become conscious like that. There are many different kinds of AIs. There are extremely advanced AIs in the universe that we can't even comprehend.

Um, but our AI will reach a limit in this generation. The invitation of the human race as we live collectively is that we become and we are pushed because of the AI, because of the threats of the AI, because of fear of the AI, we are pushed into our higher octave of operation, which is to access our higher faculties' capacities.

that's the invitation of this current timeline that we're in right now. And so if we manage that, um, together, we are evolving this planet Earth into one of those higher moving civilizations, and it will be that hopefully if things go, if things go in the direction they're supposed to go.

Kara Goodwin: Right

GeraldineOrozco.com: but each, each and every one of us, um, is participating in that [01:00:00] creation, and that's the thing.

That's, that's why we have to talk about this right now. You have to understand that every thought, every action, every creation that you have right now is either participating in the direction of that, um, potential advanced civilization or in the destruction and more suffering of the civilization. And on this earth, we've had many, many, many millions, millions of, um, generations of life.

Uh, so yeah. So that, that's, uh, what I would say on that.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Thank you. Do you feel... I feel like it changes all the time, but as you see where humanity is, and that next year's gonna be pivot- pivotal, and even up into 2037, are you feeling hopeful with what you're seeing?

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah, as you mentioned, everything changes all the time, precisely. So even these visions, I mean, they could have been 100% true. Um, and I, I mean, I had this vision, what would say, like five years ago now. But, you [01:01:00] know, we-- it changes, and I see it changing in vivo. I mean, I'm looking very closely at the technology, the effects of the wars, the political situations, all of them play a role in the direction that we're taking.

And what is beautiful, despite all of the things that are happening in this world, is that it is accelerating, that science and c- and, and c- and, uh, spirituality is merging faster than ever before right now. And that's so exciting, and that gives me so much hope, because now it's become mainstream. Even telepathy has become mainstream.

Think of when that would have been possible, right? In the '80s, it was like, okay, sure, sci-fi movie. but that is a sign of what is coming. And if now that's becoming mainstream, we're receiving a lot of education. I host these groups on training. Every single person has telepathic abilities. There's no question.

Every person has remote viewing abilities. and so I think our focus should be in learning the [01:02:00] spiritual sciences. What does it take for us to cultivate these higher faculties? How do we embody love? What is love? What is unity consciousness? What does that look like? What does it mean to be in community?

These are not externalized actions. These are internalized integrations, and that's where we have to start coming back to the self. The self, the vessel, the physical vessel, the body is the key, and we can't get caught up on any one identity. The moment we start getting caught up on identities, we build egos around, you know, things that we're seeing and connecting with, that's the death of your potential.

And we have to mature away from that self-serving concept and keep evolving and learning, you know, beyond that. So I do see hope. Yes.

Kara Goodwin: good. I love that. And I, I feel I, I echo that because I'm more and more some signals where I'm like, "Ooh, things are getting traction,[01:03:00]

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah。

Kara Goodwin: conversations are changing," and I never thought that, you know, X, person X would be interested in topic Y, you know, or,

GeraldineOrozco.com: exactly

Kara Goodwin: it is an exciting time, for sure.

GeraldineOrozco.com: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Well, Geraldine, this has been such a beautiful discussion. Thank you so much for coming back on. Please tell people how they can connect with you and what's coming down the pipeline from your offerings and so forth.

GeraldineOrozco.com: Thank you so much, Kara. As always, it's a pleasure. Um, yeah, so if you'd like to work with me, um, in DNA reprogramming and deep shadow work, you can reach me at my website at Geraldine Orosco. Um, right now I'm doing a 30-day challenge on deep shadow work. I'm teaching every single angle of shadow work. What is it?

How do you do it? Um, and I'm breaking that down on my YouTube channel, so you can feel free to join us for that. It's free. You can also get all of the workbooks that I, I constructed as a result of that, that you can follow along. Um, they're fantastic. Um, and the-- it's [01:04:00] called 30-Day Descent into the Shadow, and that's on my YouTube at Geraldine Orosco.

that's pretty much it. If I can support you in any way, please reach out. If you are an experiencer that wants to have, uh, learn more about your experience, you can join my support group, and I'm just happy to serve. So thank you so much, Kara.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Thank you again

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