621. She Channeled Beings of Light & Saw Her Dragon Past Life - Debbi Dachinger

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Welcome to Soul Elevation: Guiding Your Ascension to New Heights. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin, and I know you're gonna love this episode with the amazing Debbie Dachinger. We go deep into ET contact, including her unexpected experiences, because she admits she was quite skeptical about ET experiences until she had her own. Debbie Dachinger is a trailblazer in the realms of
extraterrestrial exploration, shamanism, and channeling. For the past 18 years, Debbie's been the journalist and host of the award-winning podcast, Dare to Dream, where she explores UFOs, consciousness, and the mystical connections between ancient shamanic wisdom and modern spirituality. Debbie is a certified shamanic energy healer, trained under many shamans. She offers both group and

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private shamanic galactic healing sessions, helping participants awaken higher consciousness and heal through ancient practices and cosmic connection. So we'll begin here in just a moment, but first, I want to invite you to explore everything available for you at karagoodwin.com. You can get my book, Your Authentic Awakening, as well as a selection of free guided meditations to strengthen your spiritual side and access to powerful
workshops and classes to support your ascension journey. And thank you truly for supporting the show. Your likes, comments, shares, and subscriptions genuinely help this work reach more people and uplift the frequency of the content. Every share makes it easier for others to find these conversations. So go ahead and hit the like button while you're thinking about it. All right, let's begin. Enjoy this episode. Kara: Well, welcome, Debbie.

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What a joy it is to have you here today. Thank you so much for coming on Soul Elevation. Debbi Dachinger: Thank you for inviting me, and I'm grateful for wherever this conversation's gonna take us today. Kara: Oh, I think we're gonna have a fun time. So so I wanna start with your awakening because , it revealed, you know, multidimensional lineages and galactic family, and you changed your career, and you got certified as a shamanic healer and a
galactic healer. And so a nutshell, you know, I'm sure it could be a v- multi-hour conversation just about your awakening, can you give us a little taste of your awakening? Debbi Dachinger: Yeah, absolutely. I was deeply spiritual, like, I was born spiritual. Different than my family. You know, books were big in our family, and I was like this little girl in a bookstore. Gifts is what we got with books, and I would always be like, "Tarot, astrology."

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I was into it, you know? Al- also, I think it showed I was super into self-development and growth. It's big in my life, always has been. And even though I was super spiritual, Kara, I, I definitely didn't believe in things like UFOs and extraterrestrials. I just thought, like, it was really, I thought, whack that people talked about it. I was a big like, "Ugh," eye-roller. Like, "Really?" And then,
yes, I had a deeply pivotal reference point, life-changing moment, which I didn't know was life-changing at the time. I was, um, very called to plant medicine. I'd been doing it. I left the country. I drank in, uh, Costa Rica four nights back to back. Kara: Of Debbi Dachinger: thank you, of ayahuasca. Three nights of ayahuasca from different countries, so very different experiences, and very different

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shamans in charge. So the facilitator also influences the experience. And then the last night was yagé. Yagé is a purgative. You're pretty much 100% guaranteed one end or the other or both. You're going to be releasing trauma, which is beautiful, right? It's like 90 years of therapy gone. And so- All of this was going on. I mean, tons of things happening, and at the same time, I had a visitation starting night one from the
divine, and that's what I call her because she was absolutely God to me, source. And she said, "Debbie, you're a shaman. You're a healer. You're a priestess." And I thought that was the strangest thing to say to me. And so I started to explain why I wasn't those things, and she was very generous because she came back every single night as I drank and kept saying the same thing but showing me different aspects of myself. When I

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came back to this country, I was, like, very confused about what that meant, and a friend offered me sessions, healing sessions and regression sessions. And thank God, like, it all unfolded perfectly because I saw immediately many lifetimes as a shaman. And then the final session we had, I saw myself living in a pyramid, and I was indeed a priestess, and
specifically I was Mayan. I was way over seven feet tall, really, really skinny, and I was, like, potent as far as creation. I'd never seen anything like it. And this being, this aspect of me didn't speak much, do much, but oof, could she create. And I was really in love with her. And before I left her presence, I had a few questions, and, um, I was really on the

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wrong path with all my questions. So she explained to me telepathically, "I'm not from here. I am from another galaxy." And when I came out of that session, I just knew truth, and I went, "Wow. All this time I have judged these people who believe in UFOs and ETs, and in fact, I am an ET." Other galaxies, like ... And I suddenly realized, 'cause you, you know, beautifully used the word
multidimensional before, suddenly realized there is no past. There's no such thing as a past. There's no such thing as a future. Like, it's all now. This lifetime galactically is going on now. This life is now. There's all these overlays and different channels happening. And because I came back with the divine saying shaman and, and, um, well, sh- she used healer, et cetera, but then this

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ET thing came into it, I just started on a massive journey of researching, changed my podcast. Dare to Dream was really about creating dreams and very spiritual. Now all of a sudden it's about channeling shamanism. It's like, whoosh, overnight. And Then I start, yes, like you said, getting certified because I needed the information. I wanna understand, like, what does that mean to be a shaman? What does
a shaman do? What are their, what are their tools? And so I started working with great shamans, and the practices changed who I was inherently. Like, I was not recognizable from when I started to when I ended. And then for sure, there is a team of extraterrestrials, very benevolent, very loving, who are highly aware that I was awakened, that I accepted the truth, and that I deep dove into the truth.

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Now, I felt quite green at the time, Kara. Nonetheless, they started orchestrating speaking opportunities. I was getting invitations from Mexico City to go to the World Ufology event, and I'm like, "How do you know about me?" Like, "This is so strange." I thought, "Well, that's cool." I said yes, and right before I left for there, Gaia TV is reaching out, and it became such a tsunami of invitations and
opportunities. It was abundantly clear, 'cause I was not pitching myself, that something had wanted my voice out there. And so I thought, "Wow, how beautiful to be assisted in your mission like this." I didn't even know it was a mission at the time, but I kept saying yes, really learning to step out of my reticence about being on stage and being interviewed. And it's, you know, years and years ago that this all

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started, but I'm very happy and comfortable here, and very much more aware at this point in my life at the abundance of galactic lifetimes I've had. Um, and just, like, I love the subject so much because it's not a one and done. It's not like you learn stuff and you go like, "Oh, well, pfft, that was..." It's constant, like the cosmos and the universes and the beings and
what's happening in our oceans and in, in our earth and all of this stuff. It's constantly, gorgeously exploding and unfolding. So I am very honored to be in this field today, to have gone from this massive confusion about what the divine was telling me, to now really full embodiment. And that's my story. Kara: Wow. It's beautiful. So you, you began that by saying that

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the, the the shaman that you were connecting with was Mayan, but was like seven feet tall. And then it sounds like it actually was revealed that this wasn't even on Earth, but there was a Mayan connection. Is that accurate? Debbi Dachinger: Well, it's a great question, and I actually don't know the answer. But I, what I will tell you is I understand that in
the Pleiades, there is a planet that is mostly comprised of indigenous peoples and shamans, and it is called Maia, M-A-I-A. So whether she came here in our Mayan times as a priestess in that, and a leader of the people in her temple, or it was actually on the planet Maia, and therefore still she was Mayan in the Pleiades, I am not clear. Probably if I did a

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QHHT or something like that, that would come forth. Kara: That's fascinating because I feel like I have heard because the ancient Mayans disappeared all Debbi Dachinger: Great. Kara: is, uh, there are people who suggest that they w- went off-planet. That, that, uh, maybe a portal opened up or someone came and got them, and they all left at one time and went to another planet is one theory. So all of that information together kind of begs the
question of maybe it was both, Debbi Dachinger: Mm-hmm. Kara: know? Debbi Dachinger: believe it. I absolutely believe it because they also appeared here out of nowhere and, and it is really clear that they're not from here originally. So there is that component. You're absolutely correct, and I believe that is true. And it is so interesting because I'm, I'm very in love with and invested in the indigenous people. I think that they have one of the

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best takes on life that if all of us were to adopt, it's definitely otherworldly 'cause most earth beings use and abuse the earth. Uh, they use and abuse each other, and they have never been like that. They've seen animism in everything. Everything has a soul, a rock, a river, a mountain, a plant, an animal. They honor it. They don't just kill to take. They honor the life that came before that's gonna give
them life, and they know how to treat all living things, how to do ceremony, how to invite in the ancestors, how to honor our children and our children's children to come after us. And so this is very otherworldly, what they do, how they think, and we could adopt a lot of those ways and more successfully steer humanity in this planet. Kara: I love that you bring this up because there's a-- I have this really

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clear memory of learning about Native Americans in fourth grade. Like, I can see myself sitting at my desk, I can see myself reading my social studies book, and I did not really... I was never really interested in reading textbooks. I mean, I was a good student and I would read them, I was never into it. And when I got to this section in fourth grade on Native Americans, couldn't get enough. It was just like, "Oh my gosh, why are we not living like this?"
Because even a textbook explanation that's very dry about how they were, you know, they saw... Just everything you just said. They saw spirit in everything. They honored the life of everything. They lived in balance and harmony with nature. They, they were really, um, ingrained and entrenched in the natural cycles of everything and I just-- There was just something within me that resonated with it so strongly and was like, "Everybody on the planet needs

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to read this, and we need to live this." Like, this is how we should be living. This is, this is how to live. um, so I remember that from, from way back then. And then I, I remember a very similar experience with the Eg- when I learned about Egypt in sixth grade. I got to that part of my social studies book, and I'm like, "What is this?" You know? don't even know what this is, and it's just in the desert and all of this stuff. But it-- same kind of
experience where- I remember being in class, I remember reading about it, I remember not getting enough and being like, what-- you know, like page-turner of the textbook, which just never happened for me of like, "I can't wait to see what the next page says." So, um, I love that you bring that up because I feel so similarly of just this, this really, uh, deep admiration and respect for indigenous cultures, and of course, for us in America would be the Native

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Americans. Um, so how, h- so all of what you've shared, you talked about that you had a QHHT session, you've had c- uh, contact through ayahuasca. has your contact, if you wanna call it contact, but, um, how has that and progressed and, and how would you say that it is now in terms of galactics or multidimensionals or spirit?
How has it changed or evolved? Debbi Dachinger: It has evolved massively. My mind has, like, all these different, uh, bubbles of what to talk about. I mean, on this, this one bubble is immediately I started having UFO contact, and that has happened constantly in various forms. Definitely various spacecraft, various places. Um,

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yeah, various circumstances. I was always thankfully with somebody, thankfully, whether it was a group or a person or four people. So we were all documenting it. I've had experiences with UFOs where, I mean, it's still mind-blowing to me where four of us saw it, were filming it, and every other truck and car was driving by and we had pulled off the road and thinking, wow, this is
definitely for us because it's inconceivable nobody is seeing this. It's so big. There's no propulsion and how it's moving is like nothing I've ever seen before. I've had species come to check me out and I know this through a camera. I was on sacred land in Arizona and, you know, just to be honest, I get bored a lot. I do. It's just sort of my makeup and sometimes when we're even

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in CE5, which is Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind contact work where you're out there wanting the ETs to come connect with you. I've done a lot of that and we're in sacred land in Arizona and we had a break and, you know, I don't know what to do. So it's so dark, like pitch black. I get creative and I thought, ah, I'm going to use my iPhone. No flash, so just hold it for a while without shaking so I can get as much in later so I can go look
and see what's surrounding us. I thought that would be interesting because you really couldn't see very far. Kara: Yeah. Debbi Dachinger: you because it was quite beautiful, even some of the cactus and the moon shots that I got. And then I was trying to capture this tree with some stars coming through the branches and I thought I kept getting my thumb in the photo. I was getting frustrated and I realized after I kept looking at photo after

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photo, that is not my thumb. There was this tremendous sphere, not an orb. It was a sphere of a white milky color with sort of blue and purple in it. I have pictures of it and it basically was covering the tree sans just a few branches. And I am told by experts that that was a species very interested in me. And I got other amazing pictures that particular night where I was also shooting
out towards the mountains like what it even looked like out there. And I captured a spacecraft in the photo and they say that cameras are great. Phones are great. They have a frequency that the eye cannot perceive so you can pick up things. I didn't know that at the time, but now I'm in. Kara: Oh, Debbi Dachinger: And so lots of UFO experiences, amazing, very Very positive. And then as far

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as the extraterrestrials themselves, they definitely visit me at night. I've been taken from this lifetime during my sleep and brought to other lifetimes, other experiences, and when I come back, sometimes it's a little bit foggy to be here for a while. I'm st- still integrating back into this life and very aware of what I just
experienced. And then a lot of, um, connection, for me, it's very deep with the Lyrans, with the lion beings, the bipedal lion beings. They come to me a lot, and I'm so honored to be a member of the pride. I feel this just incredible love for them. And there are others. There's definitely a council that watches after me, and some of them

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are beings of so much light, I don't know how to describe them. But it's not an... It's not a light that goes forever. It's more, uh, like a column. That's the best way I could describe it, and not a, not a structured column. But that's the best way, like if a being was standing there and it was light, but it kept going. Something like that. White light. So those are my experiences, and then otherwise, I am so fortunate because of the
work I do and the people I meet, that people will come up to me and just say, "I don't know why, but I'm being told I need to give you a s- a session," or, "I'm being told I need to give you this information." And these are really well-known channels who will just start sharing extraordinary information with me about my lineage, my galactic lineage, and, uh, why I'm here, who's reaching out to me, what they're saying to me. And I have yet

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another session coming up really soon with somebody who same just happened recently, and she said, "I'm, I'm supposed to give you your galactic blueprint." I'm like, "Oh, this is so beautiful," 'cause I talk to them all the time, and sometimes I get frustrated 'cause I want more, you know? I want more contact, I want more guidance, I want more... And I know I'm fortunate, I really do. Um, but I'm hungry for it, you know, hungry for even more connection.
So I feel very blessed that it comes through these channels. It... To me, and I really receive it. So that's, you know, like an amalgam of some of what's going on, but it feels like it's ever unfolding. Kara: Right. So do you feel that your, your Debbi Dachinger: You're welcome. Kara: connection is with the Lyrans? Debbi Dachinger: Very much. Kara: Mm-hmm. Debbi Dachinger: Absolutely. Um, I'm told I look like a lion. I, I accept that readily, but I feel

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it very, very, in this lifetime for sure, strongly. And I would say after that are the dragons. Deep connection with the dragons, deep love of dragons. I always thought it was because I had one, and we were close friends, and I then in a QHHT session came to find out that I had been a dragon. It was a magnificent life and experience. So there's a deep connection there. There's also, you know,
it-- this very interesting weaving of shamanism and extraterrestrials. So the shamans have known that the extraterrestrials have been here since the beginning of time. Indigenous have had relationships with the extraterrestrials. I, I could say so much about it, but suffice it to say that since ancient history, I mean, hundreds of thousands of years ago, there are pictographs, there are etchings

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in rocks, there's, uh, clay that's been unearthed in the shape of, there are stories on walls and caves that show the species, specific species since the beginning of time. There's even the Dogons, and they are the indigenous who live in West Africa and in Mali. And the Dogons, through-- since 3200 BC, have known about astronomy, Sirius A and B, agriculture, civilization.
Now, that's impossible because the telescope to discover Sirius wasn't even invented till 1862. And they would ask these Dogons, "How do you know these things?" And they would say, "Because the Nommos come to visit us from Sirius. They are am- amphibious beings. They come in their spacecraft, and before they land, they dig a hole, and they put water in the hole.

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So because they're aquatic, they come into this, and there they can live and breathe and talk to us. They're our friends, they're our mentors." And people are like, "Eh," you know not really understanding, like, how, but something impossible happened. And the same is true in the Japanese culture, and the same is true with the Zulus. I mean, I could go on and on about the history. It is magnificent how prevalent this has been, this interweaving. And so I
feel that with me, too. Like, both of those married together are really important information and part of my journey, and I, I think what unfolds and why it unfolds Kara: Yes. That-- it's so-- I, I love that you bring this up because this was actually my next question, which is that, you know, when we think about ETs, it's obviously more co- more cosmic, typically, what people... I know that there are-- we could, we could broaden it to be interdimensional,

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even interplanetary, but, you know, traditionally, we think of ETs as more cosmic, and then shamanism is very Earth, earthy. You know, it's very-- even though, like, exactly what you said, these indigenous people are very connected to star races and, and historically have known way more than Western people, cer- you know, modern Western people. But we could see them as opposites in terms of, like, galactic versus
Earth much more grounded. But, um, the way-- But they do complement, and they blend in. So when you, when you work-- Because you have been trained as a shaman, right? You have been-- You have trained with many well-respected shamans. how-- H-has that been an aspect of your shaman traditions as well? Debbi Dachinger: It's become that. It was not how I was trained, although every shaman, th- they are so aware of

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it. They wouldn't have the conferences we do, Kara: Yeah. Debbi Dachinger: everybody comes from everywhere because they're so hungry for this conversation, that they were born knowing this. And so what has happened for me, oh, and it took time, Kara, is my work initially was pretty purely shamanic. And then because there was so much activity also, it feels
here, so much activity happening in the extraterrestrial realms with me, that it started to become integrated. And so I do, I do programs. I do once a month healing sessions, like 90 minutes on Zoom, and people from around the world, anyone can join. And these healing sessions have become this amalgam of both Kara: Mm-hmm. Debbi Dachinger: me. And never are

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we, um, alone. Like, we are really held by a lineage of shamans who come through me, and we're really held by some very specific galactic beings. And I just get out of the way. I learned that, like, that was 101 in shamanism. You are a hollow bone. Meaning of myself, really, I'm nothing. I don't want my head to get involved and to think I know what's going on with somebody. I just get
out of the way and things come through me, and that's how that works. And I, I wanna say something that I was thinking about when you said this beautiful piece just before this about How we are here on Earth. And I loved what you were saying because the shamans and the Earth, I feel... I, I guess I'll back up and just say we are so connected to the Earth, and most people don't realize it.

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Not just does she clothe us and house us and feed us, we are on Earth in this incarnation because we are connected to the Earth. I mean, our roots go into her. She is our sustenance, our greatest mother. And so we have forgotten this connection, and I think that's part of why the Indigenous are so important to remind us of being Earth beings. And as we dream about the
cosmos and the ETs, we couldn't in this form live there. We would die. These advanced beings, a lot of them don't even have bodies. They don't even talk. A lot of them don't have the bodily functions we do, and some of them can't even come here because they're so advanced, their frequency is so high, their density, their dimensions, that they would have difficulty existing

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here. They could shape-shift to do so. And so I think it's imperative we remember we are on Earth for a reason, and to remember her. That not just to be good to her, but of course, also there's so much healing and wisdom there. And if you've ever just hung out on the grass and let your roots go into her and just breathed with her and sync your heartbeat with her, you can ask questions, you can share what's
going on, and you will develop a relationship, especially over time, that's profound. So I wanted to add that piece 'cause it was quite beautiful what you had said. Kara: I'm so glad you did. That's, that's really powerful, and I, and I, I agree as well. I, I talk about this too with, with people who identify as like star seeds, star beings, you know, and, and I feel that connection too, and it can be easy to

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our purpose and our mission in coming here, you know, where it's-- we can get so fixated on that, that we forget like, "Oh, we're, we're here with purpose," and we have-- we do have a connection exactly as you're saying. That's beautiful. I'd, I'd love to go back to the dragon piece also. I feel like dragons have come up, much stronger in the last year or two. , But a lot of people have been bringing up dragons lately in, in my world much more
than they used to. So what can you share if there are listeners who are like, "What, what should I know about dragons?" I feel like it's, in my world at least, it's a lesser talked about aspect of interdimensional beings, and what you have gleaned about your time as a dragon, like was that here on Earth? Was it inner earth? Was it another planet? Debbi Dachinger: Hmm. Kara: right to share about that? Debbi Dachinger: Mm-hmm. Dragons are a lot

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of times looked at as though they're mythical or cartoons, when in fact they were very real. Um, they are a part of the lineage from the Alpha Draconis and from the reptilians. And this is always my pause to say not all reptiles are bad. Not all grays are bad. Um, just not like that. But they are part of it, and beautiful creatures who,
yes, they have had their own planets, they have existed here. And why they're making a comeback right now is because of the awakening. And so they're coming more and more into the consciousness of people. People are awakening more and more to the magic of them, to the reality of them. And because there are ley lines all around the Earth that

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have dragon... Wow, it's beyond energy, but literally have dragon in them. For instance, and I'm going there again in August, Glastonbury, UK. Powerful, powerful, powerful place of dragon ley lines, specifically the red and the white dragons. And so it's almost like we might say with everything going on, with the illusion of all of what's crumbling in order for a new Earth and humanity
to come about, part of it is that these beautiful, magical creatures, dragons and more, elementals, all these things we've become so separated from and stopped seeing and knowing are going to be coming up more and more for people. There is a lot of resonance, and when you have that resonance, trust it. Just keep opening to dragon energy and inviting that in. That's what happened for me

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with this QHHT session that I had. I... And in fact, I I didn't even go into it for that. I went into it because I was so busy. I just wanted some chill, some, like, relaxation. Little nervous system reset, 'cause that's a lot. Sometimes I have a lot to do out in the world- uh for sensitive you know and so I really went into the session like that and
we start the session like that and when she uh the the facilitator was saying and what do you see I was so surprised to see this absolutely enormous green body just incomprehensible the size and the wings and the tail and everything and to feel that to embody it and I had an entire experience and it was I'm quite sure not here like here but not here

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and at one point I was flying and I felt this deep yearning to have a connection with some humans that I knew and there was a town down below and there was a clearing in the town and I landed in this clearing and Kara I was so huge it was uncomfortable like it was almost like I was afraid if I moved what would happen with the tail or the wings or any part of me so although
I was so happy to connect with people who I knew and loved I was also pretty anxious to take off again because of my the enormity of who I was and once I took off I remember going into a just a huge mountain and the feeling of flying was amazing the feeling of being on top of a mountain and being able to look out over everything was tremendous and then at some point I

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went into water not immersed into water but just into water I just remember so well what everything looked like and the joy of that lifetime very solitary very much not a part of any tribe clan mates nothing like that very alone but joyously alone and and since then I continue to explore that and they sort of come up you know I made actually even a dragon necklace recently because
I like to have these symbols Kara: Hmm. Debbi Dachinger: archetypes but also the literal symbols of saying you know I'm drawing in more and excited to have more so yeah I think people waking up to dragons it makes total sense Kara: Mm-hmm. Debbi Dachinger: is very connected also to dragons and everybody's waking up people are waking up quicker than ever and all these gifts were

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highly facilitated by the extraterrestrials and all of this and so I think these magical miraculous beings are becoming more and more real and alive to us Kara: Oh, thank you. That's so beautiful. I love it. You know, we've been talking about ETs a lot, and there has been more and more so-called government disclosure in 2026 as we're recording this. And in fact, only 10 days ago,
the government released, uh, a bunch of official declassified, a lot of redacted with a lot of redaction. um, you know, it seems to be a year of disclosure. I, I'd love to get your, your thoughts on this. What do you make of this disclosure and, um, you know, being so integrated in the ET community? I'd be curious to get your thoughts. Debbi Dachinger: Hmm. Two things really. The

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first is, I mean, it's all a sh- it's a pony show 'cause exactly as you said, redacted, and there's so much more. So much Kara: feels like the tip of the Debbi Dachinger: more. Kara: Yeah. stuff for people who have been into this for a while. Debbi Dachinger: Absolutely. And, you know, the bottom line is we are disclosure. The very, very, very brave mostly men and women, but a lot of senators now speaking
the truth, a lot of people who are in the military and the government speaking the truth, even putting themselves in a lot of danger to do so, they are disclosure. We who have had experiences and are speaking about it on stages, your show is first wave contact, all of it, we are the ones, right? We're carrying this forth where the government really has not. They have been told, the government, very

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specifically from beings like the Pleiadians, "Look, we've waited long enough. We've made agreements with you. You've not upheld your end, and a big part of your end was telling your people the truth. And so now we're gonna start revealing ourselves, much to your chagrin. We're not gonna wait for you anymore." And that is why 3i Atlas and other, mm, very conscious craft, more and more drones, and of course
there has to be the discernment about what is ours, advanced technology, government-based, um, that has been reverse engineered and what is real extraterrestrial craft. However, the point is that it is going to increase a lot. Now, the last piece I wanna say about this is at the same time as most of us are looking at the government like, "Really? I mean, we know what you have. Just do it, man. Just do it."

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But still, I am so grateful because what they have done, what Barack Obama did- And what Trump did is becau- and the senators and I had the congressmen and women, I have to give them a lot of props, people like Senator Tim Burchett. I mean, these amazing people who have been speaking up and telling the truth. What is beautiful is that people now are starting to have questions.
So for instance, I had an appointment with somebody just this past Saturday, and this woman was Russian. I knew immediately from the accent because we have so many Russians living here in Los Angeles, and I love them. They're super funny characters. And, um, I noticed on her bookshelf she had a very religious picture. It looked like Mary and the baby Jesus or something.

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But I notice things like this. The reason why I bring it up is she said, "Oh, you're..." My email is Deb on the radio at blah, blah. Said, "Oh, you were on the radio." Yeah, yeah, yeah. 19 years this June. I started on radio with Dare to Dream, and now it's podcast and one radio station. And, and she said, "Oh, what do you talk about?" The famous question where I come up against the question
in myself, how much do I reveal? This feels like a very mainstream and religious person. Um, and so my filter has become much thinner. And I just went, "Here we go." And I told her the truth. We talk about extraterrestrials, channeling, and shamanism. There's a long pause. And then she said, "I would like to ask you several questions if I can. I've been following what's been happening with the

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government and where they've been revealing. Is it true? What are they about?" What... I mean, then she had wonderful questions, and I felt so honored to answer them. This story is a perfect illustration. This conversation and experience is perfect for what is starting to happen around the world, and we need this. We need this, and they need this because there is, as I said, more and more
incidents going to be happening, and we're just at the beginning of the trajectory. And the more people who come online, the more people say, "Oh, this is true. What are they like? Are they benevolent? Are they malevolent?" What... You know, all these really important questions because media has given us damage visually. It's impaired us about, they're gonna eat us, they're gonna kill us. No,

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honey, that's humans. That's what we do to each other. The ETs don't care about doing that, or they would have done it a long time ago. So- It's really important. All of what's happening, I think, is perfection, and hopefully as more goodness happens here, the government will be even more encouraged. Okay, we're not freaking out. Humans are taking this well. Let's give them a little more. Kara: I love that. I love how you start too with the, yeah, it's a
dog and pony show. And we know this, and it's funny because, like, my husband is not really into this stuff, but, but he humors me, you know. And, and so, uh, but I said something like, "Did you realize that the government just released a whole host of documents?" And, uh, he said, "No, I didn't hear that, but I wonder why." He's like, "What-- W- why are they doing that right now?" You know? And I was like, "That is an important question. That is a very good

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question. Why now? Why are they choosing to do this now?" And time will tell. You know, what-- Is it a distraction? Is it... You know, who knows? It could be for multiple reasons. It could be that they're under some kind of, uh, time, you know, with pressure from our Pleiadian brothers and sisters or, you know, they haven't disclosed all of that as to why now. But it is interesting. so what are you picking u- up on
in terms of the Great Awakening that's, that humanity is undergoing? Do you feel like we're on track? Debbi Dachinger: I think more than we realize, most people feel a lot of despair when they look out at the world platform, the world stage, and they see the amount of wars and mistreatment of people, women, children. You dress different, you act different, you speak different, therefore, all the stuff, um, and how

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we poison our food and our water and it is very disheartening. But I think, I think we have to remember that we chose to be here, that we chose to have a voice at this time, and not-- When I say voice, I wanna be clear. Everybody's gift is not necessarily be- to, to be doing what you and I are doing. Some people are here because they have an understanding of tending to farms or repopulating trees or finding alternative energy.
Some people even know about free energy. But whatever the piece of the puzzle is that they came here to contribute and gift, it's really important to not get sucked up into the world stage. I understand it's supposed to happen like it's happening. In shamanism, there's something called the Pachakuti, which is a prophecy that predicted this time we're in, and Pachakuti means a time of change. That where everything would be

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shaken up and- That it needs to be shooken up before it comes back in a way that we are in choice to make new choices. In fact, we have to see some of the ugly in order to make much prettier, if you will, choices, much more loving choices. And so I also see on the world stage an incredible amount of people waking up right now, and it is very fast, the waking up. It is suddenly knowing truth,
and it's beautiful. It's great, and people are suddenly speaking light language and channeling and doing all sorts of things, knowing their galactic lineage out of nowhere, and I think that is so exciting. And then there's the kids who are being born who are magnificent. Like, wow, to be a kid. I wouldn't wanna inherit the Earth so much right now, but I sure would wanna inherit all those gifts

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because they're coming in telepathic and they're coming in with extraordinary knowings and abilities way beyond, you know, any other time in life. So they're coming in well-equipped to take over and do what they need to do. Um, and many of them are way more hybridized with the extraterrestrials than we were. And so I think this great awakening, this should be the most... Like, I don't like the
word hope so much, but it really should be the beacon that everybody looks to what's going on, that there are events like what you and I speak at, Kara, where you and I met, that there are places and spaces, community and tribes all around the world that are just for us and for this conversation. And the more people wake up, come, come to these events. Come to these podcasts. Come anywhere you can

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to connect with your people, to keep speaking the truth because this is what prevails, and I find it an interesting and very exciting time to be alive. Kara: That is so beautiful. I love, I love the vision. I love what you've brought to the forefront in terms of the kids and their abilities they're, they're coming in into right now, and the mass awakening that we're all, you know, experiencing in our own way. It's really, really beautiful.
has just been such an amazing discussion. I've had a blast with you. It's been so much fun. Please tell people how they can find your work. Debbi Dachinger: Well, first of all, for people who are curious about, "Well, where am I from in the galaxy?" I have a free gift, and it's a star seed gift to help you find out- Which species you're aligned with in this lifetime and how you look, what career you're doing, what your strengths are, your

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weaknesses, but we break down a lot of different galactic species, and that's at debbie-schinger.com/starseed. If you spell my name right, my first and last names, you'll get there. It's D-E-B-B-I, no E, D-E-B-B-I, and it's D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com/starseed. My website is my name, debbie-dachinger.com. All my social media, Insta, TikTok, Facebook, et cetera, is debbie-dachinger.
I'm active. I'm very active. And my YouTube channel is at debbie-dachinger, so join me. You know, there's lots of free information out there, and I do a lot of the healings, and I do a lot of the program work, . I think it's exciting that so many people are wanting this, are, are knowing, like, that there's something there for them in doing this work, and it's

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exci- I don't know. I just feel like these are my gifts, and I came to disseminate them, and so for those who are feeling like, "Yeah, you know, this is something I wanna know more about, the sh- the shaman practices, the galactic practices, and what this all means," I think say yes. Say yes and move forward, and, and forget about the how. There's a lot of that, and I've been through that. I used to live there. How am I gonna find the time? How am I gonna find the money? How am I gonna... And
it's the greatest thing between you and your greatest joy. Like, it's the biggest obstacle. And the moment I, I let go of how, and it's been a huge game changer in my life, and I offer that to everybody else to just say, "I'm getting a yes, so I'm gonna trust that yes. The money's gonna be there. The time's gonna be there. The taking care of my dogs is gonna be there." All the stuff, as they call it, secondaries. Your primary is wanting to be there. The secondaries is the crap that gets in the

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way and stops you from doing what you love to do. So just know it's a secondary. It's trying to protect you, but it's really not being a great friend at this moment. Go forward with the primary, which was the yes, and you will find everything will unfold. Really, it's pretty magical. Kara: What a beautiful gem to leave us with. I love that. Debbie, thank you again so much. This has been a beautiful discussion. It's been such a joy to have you here today Debbi Dachinger:
For me as well, Cara. I adore you. Big hugs to you, and thank you for having me on today. Thank you so much for joining me for this episode of Soul Elevation. If someone in your life would be inspired or uplifted by what you heard today, please take a moment to share it with them. These are the kinds of conversations that ripple out and elevate collective consciousness. And if you haven't yet, be sure to subscribe so you don't miss the powerful episodes ahead.