589. The Great Council of Light WARNING: Massive Changes Are Coming: Prepare Now - Pamela Downes

Pamela Downes

Kara Goodwin: [00:00:00] Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding Your Ascension to New Heights. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. I just finished recording this episode with Pamela Downs and she had such valuable insights to share. She talks about her own spiritual awakening experiences and processes, and she shares some really startling insights from the Great Council of Light that she regularly channels.

They share that massive, massive changes are coming for humanity and not everyone is gonna be able to handle it. We cover a lot of fascinating ground in this episode, so buckle up. Pamela Downs is a multidimensional soul, body healer, channeler, and spiritual guide who works with the great Council of Light to support humanity's awakening through her gentle, yet powerful healing work.

She Helps people clear, energetic imprints carried across lifetimes, restore their [00:01:00] soul's natural architecture, and realign with their divine blueprint. Pamela connects with personal spirit guides and loved ones in spirit, delivering channeled guidance that feels warm, grounding, and deeply clarifying.

Her gift lies in translating higher dimensional wisdom into practical embodied insight that helps people release outdated identities. Awaken their intuitive intelligence and step into their highest expression. 

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome, Pamela. I'm so excited to have this conversation with you today. Thanks so much for coming on. Soul

Pamela: Oh gosh. I'm so excited, uh, to be with you today and to have our conversation. I've been looking forward to it.

Kara Goodwin: Me too. I wanna start by talking about how you got into the work that you're doing today. Because sometimes people have always been connected and they, you know, they have stories from when they were little and PE they were seeing things people couldn't see. And then other times people are like, I trained myself to

didn't even know I could do it. So where do you fall in

Pamela: I am in the latter. Yeah. It's like, it's such an interesting question because, um, you know, as you're moving through the spiritual journey and your soul is elevating, right? You're, and you're going on the evolution of your soul, you're experiencing it real time, you're understanding it more and [00:03:00] more, which each step that you take, each moment, each, each experience that expands you.

And I never really understood how important it was to my story until recently to say that I was self-taught. Like, it, it didn't come from anywhere else. Um, I can say that it came partly from my higher self and a future version of myself and an aspect of myself in another space of time and time. 

Kara Goodwin: that.

Pamela: um, yeah.

Right. And, and that didn't, that didn't start till this year for me saying that, but, um. I grew up as a creative, so I naturally was intuitive, but I was also kind of like riddled with self-esteem issues and had anxiety and was in, you know, contrast and all kinds of things that we all have, you know, on our journey.

And I, I didn't really have a powerful like, voice and empowered ness inside of me, but I did have that, I did have that thread of creativity in music and art that like became my [00:04:00] place where I went to find like solace to, to recede from whatever was happening around me and to, I can say now to connect, you know, to connect to spirit, to be inspiration, to be in spirit, and, um.

My music for a very long time in my life until I went to college was my thing. And then I was also creative with art. And when I went to art school and I had to, I had to figure out what I wanted to be when I grow up. Like this wasn't it, by the way. Right,

Kara Goodwin: You didn't go to art school to learn how to be an

Pamela: right, exactly. Right. It's so funny. No, I didn't. But um, I did have to choose between art or music. And that I remember was like the first time I had to like, pull down from that resource of my higher self and, and say who I think I'm tired of doing music so rigid. 'cause I was in classical and I was trained at a conservatory and it was just like.

You know, it was a big part of my life for a very long [00:05:00] time. And then I was like, I think I wanna discover this art thing. So that, that's, that's really the decision that chose my career path. And, um, you know, as you travel through your life, as you go through the seasons, as you go through the decades, you start to understand who you are and you know how you're showing up in the world, how you're perceived by others, where your strengths are, what you're really good at, what you're not good at.

And, um, I became, you know, good at being a leader on a team. I became good at, um. Being in graphic design, I worked in magazines, I managed teams and budgets and, and editors and like all kinds of people. And that gave me, that was a training ground for me to move into entrepreneurship in the year 2000. So I still wasn't in a spiritual space, but I was listening because that pull to jump out of, you know, a corporate or a, a contained environment into the pool of opportunity, possibility walk, what [00:06:00] I could create and what I was pulling on that thread of what's here today.

I didn't know, I didn't know any of that, but I was stepping into that place of, you know, what can I create and, and how can I do this? Um, spirituality came after that. Isn't that interesting?

Kara Goodwin: It

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: I mean, but it was that, it was that thread that was pulling through the whole

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: it's, um, it is really interesting how you, you weren't maybe consciously

Pamela: Right.

Kara Goodwin: So at what point did you start shifting your focus to deliberately being more engaged with spiritual work?

Pamela: Yeah. The work came as kind of like an after, like a, like a sym, not a symptom, but a result of traveling the spiritual awakening journey. And this is what, like I'm the living example to the people that I work with. Because when you start to have this expanded view of your [00:07:00] reality, of your world, of your beliefs, of your small system, of your big system, everything starts to change, right?

And so you approach this with a new sense of who am I? How do I fit into this? 'cause I was in a container for a very long time. We all are, until we start to have the expansion. And when I started traveling on the spiritual awakening journey in a new way, sort of a different version of that other season now was like the spiritual part of me wanted to be, um, you know, looked upon and expanded and pulled upon.

Um, I started. Discerning, what do I believe in? What are my truths? What do I wanna bring to my children? And I was having big questions and I wanted big answers. And the answers that I was getting, they didn't work 'cause it just didn't fit. And so I was on this path to discover the new things. And at the same time, my [00:08:00] marriage was breaking down at the same time.

Our whole entire world was changing. There was a recession at the same time. I lost my friends, we lost our retirement, we lost our house, we lost. So I have what I call a knock down. Everything comes down in a completely different way. And your reality is once again, you know, creative for you to explore more of yourself.

And through that exploration, discernments uncovering my truths. My spirit was expanding, it was rising in frequency. Then I started like my healing journey, because we all wanna dive into the buckets of, Ooh, what's reiki? Ooh, what's Kashic records? Ooh, what's this? What's that? And we start doing, which is actually being, which we don't know it.

And through that, Kara, that was a, you know, there's a, there's a rapid expansion happening now. I'm watching people awake into their gifts so quickly. But my story took many years, you know, and it was traveled upon and [00:09:00] it was curating me and molding me like a piece of clay, like a piece of art. And through the awakening, through the spiritual journey, through the healing, my gifts were starting to open up a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time.

So it was getting knowings, I was getting little bits of. Communication. I was having dreams, my deceased father was coming through and I was learning a little law of attraction and like the right people would come into the right place at the right time and the right opportunities. And like all these things started happening and the universe, spear guides, whomever who all were there conspiring for me, were giving me these profound moments of expansion that I could not deny.

Like when you have like a tremendous heart chakra opening that makes you howl and and cry in the middle of a reiki share and there's all these people everywhere, like you're like, I didn't create that. Like that [00:10:00] was creative for me. Let me discover more, let me discover more. And that's what happened. I started raising my frequency and healing and I had this profound knowing that I was supposed to do ayahuasca.

Now, I hadn't dabbled in any of that, nor were people around me doing it. It wasn't something like I was experienced him. And that a daredevil to try different things like that wasn't me. I had two kids. I just went through divorce. I was trying to maintain a life for them and you know, hold a business together and all the things.

So this, this Ayahuasca thing came up and it was like, I saw this video of this man. He made this center, this whole thing. And I was like, I'm going there. I don't know how I'm going there. I'm not sure when I'm going there, but I, I just so know that I'm going there. And I started speaking my truth, speaking it, speaking it, speaking it.

And by way of, you know, how I was showing up in my life and saying yes to different things and doing trade with different [00:11:00] people. This person came into my life. I did trade with him through someone else, and I got invited to this. Um. Symposium for my branding and marketing firm that I had had up like for 20 years at that point.

And I walked in the room and he was in the other side of the room, this leader of this business I was working for. And I walked up to him so excited and I said, oh my God, hi, we haven't met yet. I'm Pamela. So nice to meet you. And he turned around and he looked at me. We looked at each other. This energy came through both of our heads at our hearts.

I went and I had one of those moments again, and he looked at me and he said, did you, do you feel that? And I said, I do. And we, I couldn't even function like the rest of the, of the meeting. I was trying to focus. Like it was just this incredible experience while I wound up connecting with him afterwards, we became really good friends and um.

He is on this group and someone who's on the board of this, the center that I had seen in the [00:12:00] movie is a part of his group, and they were closing down the entire center and just inviting a small group of people to go do Ayahuasca in this beautiful, beautiful, high frequency container. So I didn't need to figure it out.

Like spirit scooped me up and said, here, we know you need to do this because you have a huge mission. And by the way, COVID is around the corner and everybody's gonna expand and you need to start you expanding in a different way. And you need to be in a high frequency space because of your sensitivities and who I am.

Um. That's what really shifted everything. That was in November of 2019. I did a week long plant medicine journey. I healed all kinds of past life trauma, all kinds of this life trauma, all kinds of realizations of situations, understandings of experiences. In my childhood, I cleared and pulled energetic, uh, DNA strands from my children to help in their generation.

I mean. Profound, [00:13:00] amazing stuff. By the time that week long journey was over, we're in the jungle. It's high frequency, we're eating vegan. It's high frequency. It cleared all this trauma. It's high frequency. High frequency. We did a breath work class and at the end of the breath work class, this white light shut through my eye, filled up, um, through my third eye, filled up my entire body.

And it was like, and my body was like, my teeth were chattering and I lost my breath and I was crying. And they're going around with like a microphone, you know, to ask everyone their experience. I was like, I was, I didn't say I wanted to share. I just was having like this experience and, um. I heard in that moment when the white light came and the, and the ha the whole thing happened.

I felt love source energy like permeate my entire being. I heard your psychic abilities have, have, have been enhanced. Everything from this moment forward will be different, and that's what happened. I came home to this concrete jungle, to this like [00:14:00] world, and a couple months later COVID hit and the whole world changed and our entire work, life's changed.

We all had different schedules and new banks of time and new realizations about our world. Like it was just such an interesting space. And I had custody with my kids every other week. So I had this bank of time. I was able to sit every morning and look out these windows in my living room to this, to the wooded area in front of me and say to whomever was a part of all of this.

You know, bringing me to this here and now, including what happened in, in Costa Rica, I wanna co-create, collaborate. I wanna explore, I wanna learn more. I wanna do more of what I have been doing, what I just did. I wanna do more. And I always say to the people I work with, like some people say, well, I'll go to bed and I meditate when I'm sleeping.

And they say, no, you can't be a lazy friend. Like, [00:15:00] you gotta like set an intention. You gotta set a space a time and really sit with an open heart, expanded awareness saying I want to do this together where I wanna co-create this and, and create the safe container and all the things that you need along wherever you're on your journey.

And that's what I did. Um, I started having experiences with these beautiful effervescence feminine. They were, I knew they were feminine beings and they were buoyant and they were light and easy and loving. And they would come in and I would feel them. And when that would happen, I knew I was going to do deep, deep, deep soul clearing, like, like past life clearing.

And so I would go through the past life, I would see it, I would experience it. I would have the physical experience of it. I'd have to release that from my body. I'd have to release the emotion from my body. I have to release the experience from my body in this here and now. [00:16:00] And every time I did that, I did it many, many times over many, many months, I kept raising my frequency and it was, people say, weren't you scared?

At that point in my life, I had so much evidence that I was held, that I was supposed to do this. Every nugget I received and. There were times when I was scared. Yes. Because I was expanding so rapidly and I didn't have a community like I built, I didn't have that around me. I didn't really have mentors who were going through this.

I had one person who had experienced something with me and was trying to guide me, but like, I couldn't have her on speed dial 24 7, you know? And, um, I just did and knew I was doing what I needed to do at the time. And through that I started having experiences with all different kinds of beings, with all different kinds of frequencies, with all different kinds of energies, with light language, with ets, with angelics, with [00:17:00] really super low vibratory beings, demonic beings.

I, I, I had it all. I had it all. And I wasn't sure why I hadn't, when I hadn't. And there were times when I was really scared, but I had to form this, like picture the whole entire picture of everything. I had to experience the low, the mi, like every part of it, to understand the vibrant, the vibrant and frequency, vibration and frequency of the council to be able to have that, because it's an ecosystem.

It's a, it's a part of a whole. And one day I was sitting there and I, I had this like swirling, you know, I had my eyes closed and I'm, I'm in this space and this swirling like thread of golden, like light was s spiralling down, like almost like a mini tornado. And I was just sitting there, you know, I was channeling, I had started like bringing in beings and feeling the [00:18:00] ets feeling the density of their body, like their, what they were shaped, like, what they felt like, what their language felt like, how it sounded.

I would draw it, I would record it, and one day this spiraling energy came down and I started, it went right into me. And I, that's when, that was the first transmission of the council because they're so high frequency and I wasn't really there. I wasn't there yet, but we were able to have like a,

Kara Goodwin: this is the Great Council of Light,

Pamela: That I channel, yes, these are the beings that I channel that I am like working with continually and that I share messages of love, support, and guidance of, and, um, that I work with and containers with one-on-one people, like they have told me I'm an incarnate aspect of them.

Um, and there are many people that are part of that as well. Um, and it took me a while, like this whole journey took me a while to be able to, to say that to you, to say it to anyone. It was like until recently, but, um, I. [00:19:00] As I was having this connection with them, I was getting visions, I was getting downloads, and I woke up in the middle of the night in 2020 and I heard spirit calling, spirit calling.

And at this point I had a pad by my bed. I had a recording device, like I had it all. And I wrote it down in the middle of the night. And then that morning I, um, bought the domain and it just kind of, I bought the URL and it just kind of like, you know, put it aside. Over the course of a year, I kept hearing as I was doing what I just told you.

I'm working with them and channeling and messages and experiencing them. I kept hearing there will be a glass ceiling that will break. The world that we know, that we know will change overnight. The world that everyone knows will change overnight. People will stop in their tracks. They won't know who and what it is that they have believed in.

It's currently happening right now, and they will need a safe place to land. You need to build a portal, you need to build a portal. And I'm like, what is a portal? I [00:20:00] build websites. I build marketing pieces, you know? And at the time, I merged my marketing firm that I had for 18 years in with a client of mine, and we started a new business.

So I was like, you know, doing all of that. And meanwhile, spirit's like the guys are like, it's time to build the portal. It's time to build the portal. I'm like, no, no, no, not now. So for a year. They kept saying that. Finally at the end of the year, they showed me the logo that I had a vision of a little iPhone.

And this little wings came down and landed on it. I woke up, I had to check something for someone, and I went to GoDaddy and I saw spirit calling. And it was like that moment, it was like, this is it. This is a portal, this is it, this is the whole kit and caboodle. So I, I ran my marketing firm and I launched Spirit calling simultaneously.

I had to, I had, I said to them finally one day they're like this build, build it, build it, build it. I said, finally one day, fine. Like, send me the people, send me the money, send me all the [00:21:00] pieces and I will be your humble servant. I will do it. And um, you know, the only thing that I had in my life that was really had any value to me was my home and the equity in my home.

'cause I had come from the recession. I had gotten divorced, I had lost everything. And the day that they asked me to take the equity outta my house to do that, it was like, are you kidding me? Really? Do you want me to get that uncomfortable? After you told me there's gonna be a marketing, um, a, a housing market crash after you told me that there's gonna be a stock market crash after you told me there's gonna be a war after you told me that like, all these things are coming to our world.

You want me to, to take this risk? Okay. And I didn't. And I met this person who helped me express my spiritual awakening journey. All the things that I experienced on my path so that I could help other people. That launched in January of 2024, and I ran both companies and I. Right now, in two weeks, I [00:22:00] will be a free woman and I sold my company in January to my business partner.

Yeah. And that took like eight months. Like that took forever. And, um, and not, it's not really public until the end of March. But, um, I am now, since January, been leading this a hundred percent of the time and everything that they have asked me to do, start a mastermind. Okay, what are we doing? I don't know.

You're gonna create a container and you're gonna do it. Okay. Start, start slow math coaching. What is that? You're gonna figure it out and you're gonna do it in real time. So I'm holding containers for them. And last six months I've started doing this deep, deep. I've been getting downloads of technology, doing this deep soul healing, healing soul bodies, activating light codes, activating DNA, getting rid of fractures and tarnishes, so to speak, on the soul body, and helping people heal and raise frequency.

And that's my job, is to be the living example, [00:23:00] to create a space for people and to teach people how to raise their frequency and to know their powerful, powerful, creator beings, beautiful beings of light that are connected to all that is like it's that simple.

Kara Goodwin: That is amazing. What a beautiful, beautiful journey you've had, and you convey it so wonderfully because there are so many facets to it.

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: up and up and up and up. You know? There was a lot of trust. There was a lot of falling. There was a lot of. A lot of, all the different aspects and facets of it.

And I really loved what you talked about with the, breadth of, you know, you were, you would have these meditations, you would have these experiences where you were experiencing ets, you were experiencing, you know, all the different kind of invisible realm to most of us. Um. And it was, and there were demons also, and there were, and I feel like it's so poignant for [00:24:00] where we are with humanity right now, because we're all. Nobody, I guess people still are to some extent, but how many of us want to stick our, he heads in the sand and be like, no, no, no. It's really getting real here and I don't wanna see

I don't 

Pamela: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: this. I mean, I feel

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: and I, you know, have, have. Known what I, the stuff that's coming out is not new to me, it sure is coming out like a fire hose, you know, and it's like, oh my God, I ca I, I don't like, I wanna shut down.

You know? It's like so much to take um, but there is, we're all experiencing in the 3D the need to hold that balance to not look away.

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: like, okay, I'm not gonna be able to process this, so I just can't even go there because we, we need to go there. We need to not deny what has happened. need accountability.

But if we're gonna get accountability, we have to [00:25:00] see, we have to acknowledge, we have to be willing at it, to think about it, to process it so that we can advocate, so that we can know what the next best step is to move forward. So. You experiencing that in the etheric is, is such a beautiful parallel for, you know, yeah, maybe there are people listening who are like, well, I I don't ever see demons, I don't see angels, I don't see ets.

So this, you know, good for her for doing that. I, it's not relevant to me. No. This is a, there is a parallel

you're 

Pamela: there is.

Kara Goodwin: it in the astral or the

or 

Pamela: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: because it's here for all of us. But, um,

Pamela: so important that you said that because it's so they, people are seeing it. They don't understand that they're seeing it.

Yeah.

the point. That is the point,[00:26:00] 

correct.

Kara Goodwin: of what you are describing, begins at the energetic. It

invisible first. It's, but it's been there all along.

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: are now, what's coming to light is that manifestation in the 3D that, those dark forces.

So

Pamela: Yeah, and that is why. That is why the Great Council of Light is here right now, Kara. Like that is why I had to wake up, have the fast track, get the portal, all the things, because it's here right now. Our world is shifting very, very quickly. I've heard you speaking about this on your podcast, so I know your position on this, and that is why the Great Council of Light wants you to work on your frequency because as we've experienced just so rapidly in the last three months, this is nothing baby compared to what is coming.

And you need to get your house in order. And this isn't me like being a [00:27:00] dictator. This is me saying. You are in control of your reality no matter what is happening outside in the world. And the council gave me this. I was in the shower yesterday. Maybe they want me to share it today. You know, I shared it yesterday too.

They gave me my job is to really simplistically help the people who don't understand, like you just said, that they are already looking at it and they're gonna actually be looking at it in a big way and they're not gonna believe their eyes. So if you think about living with your soul and your spirit, first think about a bicycle and the gears on a bicycle.

There's a front and there's a back. And the front is pulling on that chain. If you use your spirit, which is the front, and you have your body and your brain in the back, and you allow your spirit to move you forward, no matter what gets in your way, you can wiggle around it. You can change course, you can turn, you know you are in control of your reality.

So no matter what is presented in the news, in our media, if there's a war, whatever ATS in the sky. [00:28:00] You got it going on. You're completely in control. And how do you do that? By maintaining your frequency. By watching what you consume, your time, your friends, your work, your food, your beverage, your news, your social, really watching what you're doing.

Be the, be the, you know, the wittiness of your world and the choices that you're making, people pulling on you. And, and people Demonic. People Demonic just means low frequency. It just means it. The lower and lower and lower and lower you get the, the more dense and heavy it gets. And so when waves happen like that, you wanna be a strong pin on the bowling lane.

You don't wanna be just knocked over. That's the whole point. And that's why they're here.

Kara Goodwin: Thank you. That makes so much sense. I love that bicycle

really 

Pamela: too. 

Kara Goodwin: So I wanna talk more about the Great Council of Light. So. can you tell us? I, I wanna know first [00:29:00] kind of, um, what you can share. Like where are they from? I know you said that you're an aspect of them, but is it, is this something with, you know, is it more galactic?

Is it more angelic? I know those things aren't necessarily separate, but, and also, you know, we've gotta get into more about what they're saying is coming. So, but let's start with who

Pamela: Yeah, totally. So they are ancient creator beings is how they express themselves. They have a vested interest in humankind because they were and took apart in creation. So you can call them angelics or you can call them ets. To me, they're the same thing.

Kara Goodwin: they were, not incarnate here

as

Pamela: no.

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Pamela: And.

Kara Goodwin: of in between dimensions if they were part of the creation.

Pamela: Mm-hmm. From what I understand and when I have my mastermind every month I, everyone submits questions and I channeled messages, and somebody asked, there's the council of this, there's the, there's the, um, galactic of this, there's this, and they, they totally [00:30:00] broke down what it is. And they say that there are different roles and different groups, and there are different hierarchies, and their purpose is to administer different kinds of information and all is to support humanity's growth spiritually.

And they are here now to support the greatest expansion that humankind has ever experienced for Wied. And so. My people will ask me, what systems are these and who are these beings? And like all these complicated questions, that's not my role. That's not my job. My job is to support humankind here now.

Like they want everyone to get outta their brain and into the body. It's embodiment time. It's time to really understand your frequency and who you are. Um. So that's one part of it. And it's a vast group of beings, so there's no numeric value to it. Um, I know other people that I believe and they're finding, we're finding each other now, um, that are, there's [00:31:00] many people on the planet that are a part of this council.

Um, and I, it took me a long time to really be able to come out this way. You know, it was, who am I to say that There's like a, there's a whole, um, embodiment phase that I'm going, that I've been going through and I still am in, and they've told me that instantaneous healing is next. They said that years ago, a couple years ago, and then in July, this whole healing technology started.

So I'm just on the ride to continue to discover who I am and remember who I am. Um, some of the things that they have talked about. I put out a prediction video in January of 2025. I think I did one in 2024 too. Um, and I did one last year, or this year in 2026. Yeah. There was a prediction that, that there would be an assassination attempt.

I think that was 2024. Yes. Um, a lot of the things that they give me, they only give me what they want me to share that have [00:32:00] high probability. So every choice individually and collectively add to the greater timelines that are all out there. There's many, many, many timelines. Things that have high probability, they share with me.

And also at the time they have high probability and, you know, two months from then they could, everything could have changed. Um, last year, the 2025 predictions video, they said that people would start falling far from their positions in entertainment, in music, in, um, government. You know, I mean, just, you know, any one of those, all those main buckets that exist, that the truths of our world would be revealed.

Um. They talked about simultaneous attacks happening in the United States. Now, I believe there's a high probability for that this year because they've been exper, they've been sharing this with me the last couple months. They showed me a vision. They show me visions all the time. I share them on my [00:33:00] YouTube channel when I receive them, not for likes and clicks and algorithm.

When I receive them, I share them. I'm very clear about that. I wake up, they show me, I write it down. Sometimes I draw it, sometimes I just use words they talked about, or they showed me a, an image of a dream. I think it was in July of 20 20, 20 25. It's hard to get my ears straight. And I saw a TV set in front of me and in front of me.

The, they were showing the United States attacking another country, and in this dream, everyone was going. No. Why are we doing that? It's going to start a domino effect. Like if we do this, that's what's gonna happen. And we actually did do that last year, but the larger version of it is this year. And then I had another dream recently where they showed me, again, a TV screen with the ticker tape on the bottom, much like what was happening in COVID.

And it was global updates. It was global [00:34:00] updates, and it felt like war. I've had so many visions of those sorts of things. It's a lot. I know it's a lot. It's a lot for people to hear, but it's happening. They talked about the beings and the lower frequency density that runs our world, that our world has been entangled in, that it will start to break down last year.

It's really at a point. Now we're at a pivot point here. People are getting desensitized. They talked about this in the March message. I channel one every month from my community. People are getting desensitized to this. I mean, we saw, we saw someone get brutally murdered on social media. I mean, mass media.

All of our screens saw it. Like we're getting desensitized to it. We're seeing now the files, these things, you know, I wanna get into the details, but we're seeing these ways of being that have existed for many, many, many, many, many, many lifetimes. [00:35:00] They're coming up now. They can't hold anymore. They are breaking down.

We are seeing leaders that we have revered the truths of them coming out. There's more of this coming, everyone. This is why it's imperative now that you really get a practice in place, that you listen to people like Kara and the communities that are around you and you learn how you can navigate through your life.

You start to, to cut out the things that don't serve you, get really clear and use your discernment on what do you wanna keep in your life, what do you wanna get out? And really get like aligned as much as possible so that you're, you're not fearful, you're powerful.

Kara Goodwin: That's so, it's so beautiful, so poignant, and it is fascinating, you know, that you're, you're pulling back in terms of, okay, well last year I was saying that, or they were saying

Pamela: Yeah,

Kara Goodwin: through their message and like you [00:36:00] say, we are in it right now. And so because we're living it, it might, I mean, even though on the one hand it is very shocking what's happening. I mean, if anybody would've told us six months ago that we are in the position, you know, the different countries that we've invaded, the, and all the things that have come through in the Epstein files, you know, I, I go back to like, even Deepak, you know, even Deepak is in the files. Like, what is this world

Pamela: it's not what we think.

Kara Goodwin: a, a follower of his, but I just. I respected his work. I, I knew who he

and I 

Pamela: Mm-hmm. 

Kara Goodwin: powerful messages from him. So it really gets you thinking of like, God, this world is so inverted

Pamela: the word. That's the word. That is, it's upside down. Everything you think is real is not, it's all been positioned for us. That's the glass ceiling that [00:37:00] breaks. That's the reality that people don't understand. That is it. We have been put into almost like, you know, you see these shows, I don't know what shows they are, but like they're this one show.

They're in a dome and like their whole world has been creative for them. And um, that's us. We get fed into a system. We get born into financial system, education system, food system, spiritual system. Everything, everything. And there's all these ways of being that are circulating around us and things that have been established for us to keep us small.

And we are magic. We are magic. We have energy systems through our bodies. We have clear senses. We have a penal gland. We are connected to the omniverse, we are connected to all that is like, I mean, think about that. That's who we really are.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Well, I love that you're sharing this and it's making me think too, when I was meditating this morning, I was really. [00:38:00] Tuning into this sense of, you know, of course, like the light body is not, that's not new for me. I understand that we are beings of light, that we have a body, we are a soul and a body. But there was something, there was a new aspect embodiment with it, of really seeing myself as in like a holographic form, but still in my body, but like this glowing kind of electric. Um, but it, I mean, it really looked like. The same sort of color and, and dynamic of like the, the holograms in Star Wars, you know, where it's that like light blue electric kind of thing.

And it was like, that was really me. And by bringing my attention to it, I was like, okay, on, on, on. Like keep intensifying, intensifying. it just was,

then that light is connected to everything else. So as we embody that light. Then everything that we are connected with by virtue is the [00:39:00] same frequency is then also getting the opportunity to light up because it's part of our creation.

It's part of our reality. And so that is what a lot of the messaging that you're talking about makes me think about when we think about empowerment. And I'd love to know if you have more that you can share about empowerment because. Again, when we think about the Epstein files, for example, one of the many horrific things that is being brought to the forefront for humanity right now as things break down that can make a person feel helpless because it's like, okay, yeah, it's, it's disintegrating. And I'm not in power. I'm not in political power. I, I can't go and change the laws. I can't even elect anybody right now because we're not in an election cycle. Even if I could, who do I trust? Like now I'm seeing that it doesn't really matter who I elect because they're all in bed together. I mean, literally and figuratively. [00:40:00] it can make one person feel, uh, hopeless. And so. I understand what you're talking about in terms of like the personal power and our ability to navigate our reality, but is there anything else that you can say in terms of how we can facilitate change for humanity in a positive way? Does that make sense?

Pamela: does, it's a hard one because it's a, it's a journey. And so you have a micro view and then you have a macro view. And your micro view says, I want to create change. I want to, how do I stop this? How do I, how do I, so it's making you go within and disconnecting you from oneness, but you don't really understand that.

So the macro view is that I am a part of this system and everything is flowing and moving the way that it's supposed to. I am a [00:41:00] part of the light that encompasses this planet. And you have to be at a certain point to be able to have this right. Um, and I know that all of these things are happening for me, not to me, and I witness these experiences.

I have a visceral reaction. Right. I mean, I can't look at what's about to come out. I can't. I know, and I've known all about it for a very long, there's a whole underground world. There's a whole world that people do not even know exists. Many, many things they don't know exist. This is, this is the top of that layers, the top layers.

People are witnessing this and it's, it's like appalling. It, it viscerally affects every part of their body. And when you witness things like that, this is why they want you to work on your frequency. So you're conditioned, you [00:42:00] are only human. You're going to have a reaction. It makes me actually ill, it makes me, uh, because I'm, I'm a super feeler and a, and I'm a visual creative.

I, I, I can't look at those things. Because I'll see it over and over and over again when I close my eyes, right? So I choose, I, I know how I operate and I know how I function, and I know what I can and can't see. And so it's that empowerment part that we're talking about. Like, how am I going to show up in these circumstances?

Sometimes you have to have the care, the experiential learning part of it. You have to, it sucks, but it shows you how you wanna show up, like for the next or whatever. And this is, this is what we're being fed right now. So the macro view is, I understand what's happening. I am going to, it's, it's permeating our world, right, with change, but it's permeating our media.

It's permeating the dinner table [00:43:00] conversations. It's permeating the coffee table at the cocktail hour. It's permeating the water cooler, like it's every, it's all over social media. How am I showing up inside of it? So the council says, when you go to these family gatherings, like, excuse me, um, I'm gonna politely, um, go over here.

You know, like, have these tactics and strategies inside of you, and how are you gonna deal with circumstances? How are you gonna deal with things that are triggering? How are you gonna, what are you gonna do to do a reset for yourself? So, what does it take when you see something like that and you have visceral experience?

Now, what's the plan, Stan, what are we doing? I'm gonna recede, I'm gonna go back into my space that's safe. The council in the March message says, and they said this before, many times, get a safe space inside of your home where you feel grounded, where you're around, things that make you feel a [00:44:00] certain sort of way.

So that you can, it's a conditioning, right? So that you can get and pull back into this mode of, I feel safe, I feel grounded. I know where I am, I know who I am, I know my position in all of this. And there are tools, there are strategies. It's, it's, I, I just don't believe that we can avoid it because we are living in it.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Pamela: are not gonna be able to handle it. They're not gonna be able to handle it. They're gonna have like a very, very difficult time. And they asked for that experience that this is their sole contract. They asked for that experience. I asked for this experience right now. You asked for this experience right now.

I chose it. I chose to step on it and to be here now to support this shift that's happening. And what I can say right now is if any of this rings true to you, start getting your house in order. Start getting your house in order. Make [00:45:00] some strategic decisions. Who are you gonna get off of social media with?

Who are you gonna stop hanging out with? Whatcha gonna do inside your home? Are you gonna stop wasting your time on nonsense and silly, frivolous conversations? Who cares about, you know, whomever? Like, it's stupid. Let it go.

Kara Goodwin: Super Bowl halftime show. Oh my God.

Pamela: I don't, yeah.

Kara Goodwin: get? Guys? Let it go. Like is what you're focusing on. Okay.

Pamela: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

are you creating? Like, what's making you feel strong and powerful? How are you working on, you know, supporting your, your beloved or your children or whatever

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Pamela: about your, your little fur baby? How are you supporting the people around you that you love? Keep them close. And also for those of you who completely resonate with everything that I'm saying and you understand them.

You're the lighthouse now for all of those around you, and you need to be able to be there for them, holding [00:46:00] space for them. Not saying, I told you so. I told you so. Didn't I share this? This is what I've talked about the last three years. No, the council says, share more with me. Tell me what else you know, how can I support you?

That's our role right now.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. That's beautiful. So, you know, you've shared some amazing insights about what the council has said, and that they have been talking about this for a while, and that this is, I think a lot of people recognize that the times that we're in have been prophesized for ages by different lineages all across the world. Now some people say, um, that the, you know, this is, this is happening. Regard like humanity is gonna go through a massive uptick in consciousness. It is happening and it is done. You know, I mean, we still have work to do, but there is no going back. Other people say that we are still, uh, it's still being decided if we'll make it, if this is gonna, you know, actually come to [00:47:00] fruition. What does the, does the council get into that with you?

Pamela: Basically they're preparing us for what's about to happen. So it's, it's inevitable. It's inevitable, you know? Um, I'm not huge into astrology and, um, you know, num numerology, but there are people around me that support me in that way. And we just started a whole new cycle. I mean, I can be the witness to say that it is a magic, it is instant manifestation.

It is an amazing energy right now in this one year that just is just starting. And, and if you hear this, what are the things in your life that kind of fell off of the game board the last four months? What are the things, the people, the processes, the systems, the work, the relationships, whatever. That was them going away because it's now time for this strong creator to be in the magic of everything that you deserve, that [00:48:00] you are that's available to you.

Saying that, Kara says this shift is happening for the betterment of all of us that is here for the betterment of our experience, for the betterment of us and our place, uh, and, and on planet Earth. And for a better experience. It's, it's happening. I don't know how to say it other than it's happening. Um, it's gonna be, when I went to channel, the 2026 predictions video, I always still go in like a kid, like, give me a really good, give me a good message.

I need to serve them. I need to, you know, and, and I do. I do it.

make it good because I'm, I'm so my, like I care so much about it. And they went, oh, what are you, indeed, you know, they get like all excited and it's gonna be, you know, our soul asked for this. Great, I mean, some people didn't wanna come back in, in this version of this time, of our, in our cycle.

And other people were like on the, on the, the rollercoaster, like, can't wait, sign me up.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. [00:49:00] Yeah. they give a sense of timing? Okay.

Pamela: Yeah,

Kara Goodwin: coming.

Pamela: yeah. Sometimes they're really good with timing, but yeah. No. Yeah. 'cause the simultaneous attacks, um, yeah, it was such a strong message and I, I saw. Last year I saw the multiple visions of it and, and things, and now I've seen this, this war. I hate saying the word war, but it is escalating. You know, that could be the way that this country attacks.

Like who knows? Who knows? I've seen things with China, I've seen, I've seen so many things, and so who knows?

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Pamela: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. Well, I have so many questions here, um, and we're running outta time, but can you tell us about the soul's natural architecture and how you help people to restore it?

Pamela: Yeah. [00:50:00] So we come in here as, um, you know, we, our, our divine blueprint is perfection. And as we go, it's our ethereal body. It's our energetic body. It's the system that runs this, this dense three-dimensional body. And as we travel through our lifetimes and we have experiences that create little ticks or tarnishes or imprint in fractures, what the council says.

On our soul body, it creates attributes that we bring with us to different lives, you know, and I'm, I've been healing a lot of them in this lifetime, and I'm still healing. And that's the journey of the human experience. Um, I'm able to go in, who ever thought I would be doing this, Kara? Like, it's so cool.

It's so cool. It's been, I know it's been six months, like January turned six months and it's just expanding, expanding.

Kara Goodwin: came through in July that

Pamela: This is what started in July. Yeah. And I, um, [00:51:00] I'm able to, and since July I've had this different pieces of technology put into my body, which is a whole other thing, which is amplifying the healing process.

But what I do is I go in through frequency. This energy comes out of me and I'm able to go in. It started out with just the energy body and now it's starting to move into the physical body, which is really interesting too. And the whole. For me, no, for the people I work with.

That just started and that's forming the picture of the instantaneous healing.

I think that when all of that, you know, that picture forms, that that's what that work will be. But anyway, I'm able to go in through these languages and codes that were put into me. Um, this frequency comes out of me, this pressure and, uh, energy transmission happens. So I'm able to send energy to the soul body and then I'm able to activate dormant, um, [00:52:00] light codes inside of the energy body and I'm actually able to heal the in fractures, in the energy body, all this stuff.

And then there was one time when I was like in someone's womb, like I was working on someone's kidneys a couple weeks ago, uh, from my mastermind. They submit messages or uh, questions and I channel messages about them. And I was sitting in channel, you know, preparing for my mastermind. I started doing this, this frequency stuff.

And then I heard that I was healing, um, this woman's name in, uh, her kidneys. So when we went to the mastermind that night, I said to her. I was working on your kidneys and she went, oh my God, Pamela. I just set an intention yesterday to like get off of this kidney medication. I didn't know anything about her kid relationship with her kidneys.

It's not like we talk about that. I know. So then I'm like, wow, show me more. Show me more. But. I do this container, it's a three month container. And I say [00:53:00] this because this is, this is why it's so important. People come in, everyone says, I wanna know my soul's purpose. Okay, sure you do. Everybody wants to know their soul's purpose in order to get there, to even be able to conceive it, understand it, you have to align to it.

We have to heal the soul body. So when we start working together, and it's a container that's created, and the council and whomever come, if there's deceased ancestors, um, down the lineage line, like whomever, people from this life, it's a, if it's certain guides that come through, if it's a past life that comes through, that needs to be healed immediately, which, what happened with someone that was the most impactful life that they ever had.

And now open them up to not have fear to be able to start awakening to their gifts, but whatever comes is supposed to come and it helps them understand who they are, heal past life stuff, this life stuff, whatever, raise their frequency and go, oh, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. And then I do business coaching [00:54:00] to help them with the business that they do, which just manifested at the end of last year real time.

cool, but it doesn't even have to be complicated stuff. Like it might just be someone who's really kind of like set in their ways and really identifies themselves with a past bag of behavior and a this bag of what they identify as. It could just be the slightest bit of clarity that turns the dial just this much that changes everything.

It's so cool. I have to stop saying cool. 'cause I say cool like 17,000 times every, it's amazing. I love it. It's so much fun.

Kara Goodwin: Fascinating. That is amazing. Wow. How beautiful. So it's a combination of like

Pamela: Everything.

Kara Goodwin: and then also some like spiritual guidance

Pamela: wisdom from them. Yeah. Ancestral [00:55:00] healing. I had ancestors come who were really directly related to this one woman's desire and what she wanted to heal. These ancestors, two of them came and stood there and the council said, you must recede, but you may be present. And it's almost like in a, um, a shamanic journey, they came to support the healing 'cause it was imperative because they created this journey, this thread through the DNA and like.

I was like,

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Pamela: yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: when you say you, when you were talking about that, you said there were technologies that were placed

your 

Pamela: yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: bit about

Pamela: Yes. The first time it came in, this new set of guides came in to support the work I'm doing with the, with the, um, the council and actually a higher, the high aspect of myself. She said her name, she came in and there was this energy, there was this. Technology that was inserted in my heart. So [00:56:00] I'm in a trance state 'cause I'm working with them.

And this, it was like profound and very, it was uncomfortable, but it didn't hurt. Um, pressure go that like went into my heart and then I. The next day that I went to work with them, it got ignited and this energy like went through my arms, out my fingers and I could feel it like moving like threads. Um, and there was one time that they locked this, this sounds crazy, but I could feel it.

They put this like device or something on my hand and I could feel this stuff coming through. Um, they'd done, they work on different parts of my back. And at this point I just allow, because I know that what I'm doing is changing lives, supporting people, and I'm open to it and said that this aspect of myself and they gave me the name, I created that with her.

It's a, she, it's an energy that's feminine and I [00:57:00] am remembering it and pulling upon it just like all the other things I've done to create this and do this work, this healing org.

Kara Goodwin: That's so fascinating. It actually makes me think of an experience I had last week because I did this thing called a It's IL light three and it is like a, a light that goes kind of. At your crown. Like I, I was lying down on a massage table and there was this light that was flickering and there were a couple of different, there's another one like the rcia I

something like that. but it flickers and you listen to music. I was listening to some like plant medicine music, I think is what she said, but I wasn't, uh, the only. It induces like a, a psychedelic experience, but I hadn't taken it, it hadn't ingested anything. So it was all this light and the rhythm that it was flickering at and the music together. [00:58:00] And it really is like you're on a psychedelic journey. Like you're seeing all of these, uh, patterns and images and it was like a journey and. Fascinating. It's an hour long. I'd done it once before, like six months ago, but at one point, toward the end, it felt like somebody punched me in the solar

was 

Pamela: Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: sudden, uh, totally unexpected because I'm just paying attention to these visuals. I'm like hardly even noticing my body. all of a sudden I like, make this involuntary, like, ugh, like, and, and I physically felt. Some sort of spasm. Right in my solar

Right in 

Pamela: yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: plexus. And have been very curious about that because I'm like, that is so bizarre.

So it was really

have 

Pamela: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: response and then it just, the way that you're describing what you had with your

Pamela: [00:59:00] Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: curious to see like, will something unlock from that?

Or I, I haven't yet had like a, a, something that I can say, oh, here was the, the cause and here's the

know, 

Pamela: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: had that direct thing yet, but.

Pamela: ask?

Kara Goodwin: Mm. I don't think I did.

Pamela: You go,

Kara Goodwin: yeah, I love

Pamela: Yeah. And if you don't, um, you know, you don't hear something immediately, you know, just continually ask open heart or try to automatic write and just start writing about the experience and just see what comes out.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah,

Pamela: It's cool. Yeah. I mean, sometimes we need little, you know, a little, uh, trigger for an idea.

That's, that's, I love collaboration and co-creation. I think it's funny. So I work best that way and, um,

think there's so much to be explored and discovered. I,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, yeah. That's beautiful. [01:00:00] Well, I wanna be respectful of your time. I know we went a little bit over. I apologize for that. I've loved this conversation. I hope you'll come

point. Please tell people how they can connect with you and find out more.

Pamela: For sure. Thank you for asking. So the, the community I've been discussing is spirit calling.com. I built a really cool thing. It took me a couple years to understand how to do this. I built a ladder, it's a quiz, so you can go and take this quiz and, um, it's, you know, technology and you just kind of fill in the answers and you find out where you are on your spiritual path.

So maybe you are in a different place than you thought you were, and you get, um, you know, the, the answer and information sent to you, kind of giving you some tools, how to move forward in it, some suggestions of the offerings that I offer and the council can support you. And that's all right there on my homepage.

And we work with Pamela Page, just explore it. But, um, I do have a page where. I'm able to give people some free downloads and some [01:01:00] information, and that's spirit calling.com/podcast. Um, I have an ascension symptoms free download. I have some daily quotes from the council that might support you on your journey as you're trying to calibrate for the recalibration.

And, um, I just launched something new that I'm really excited about and it's another one of those containers that I have no idea what's gonna happen. It's called Ask Pamela Live. And you don't even, I get so many messages on all my platforms in my inbox, on my email, like everywhere saying they just, people want someone to talk to about an experience that they had about a download, a situation, a dream, uh, something, and they don't have anyone to talk to.

I met with someone last night. She said, I have no one in my entire world that I can speak with. I said, get your butt to the community because we're talking about this stuff like every day. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. 

Pamela: um.

is called Ask Pela Live. It's on the first Thursday of every single month. And then I'm doing a workshop, it's called, um, [01:02:00] live Answer the Call.

And I'm working with people one-on-one for like a four hour container in a group setting. And we are learning how to raise our frequency. We are getting energy transmissions and downloads and guidance and like, it's the coolest. It's a a fun container to play in and to receive from. And my channels are spirit calling Pamela.

So TikTok, Facebook, Facebook, YouTube, uh, Insta. Come and follow me on it, on, on YouTube, get the messages and the downloads, especially now. I think that would be like the one thing you make sure that you wanna do.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. That's beautiful. Thank you so much. I've really loved every second of this. I'm so grateful that we got together. So thank you again for coming on Soul

Pamela: Thank you for having me. I had a wonderful time as well. I'd love to come back.

Kara Goodwin: Thank you. 

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