498. What Really Happens When We Die? | Psychic Medium Julie Ryan Reveals the 12 Phases of Dying

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding Your Ascension to New Heights. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. I'm so excited to feature the amazing Julie Ryan on this podcast episode. She's a fascinating woman who has immense psychic skills, which she wasn't born with and learned deliberately, and that means you can learn too, and she can teach you how.

Psychic medium and medical intuitive. Julie Ryan can sense what medical conditions and illnesses a person has and facilitate energetic healings. She can communicate with spirits both alive and dead. She is a buffet of consciousness and can scan animals, access people's past lives, and she can tell how close to death someone is.

Her book, angelic Attendance. What really happens when we transition from this life into the next describes a [00:01:00] series of events that involves angels, multitudes of deceased family and friends, spirits of deceased pets and countless serendipitous and miraculous moments.

Julie's angel messages books are picture books that have angels answering kids tough questions. And each week, Julie scans collars on her Ask Julie Ryan Show, which is heard in over 100 countries throughout the world. Julie's providing listeners with a free gift of her book, Angelica Attendant. So click the link in the notes and grab your copy.

Before we dive into this episode, I wanna invite you to explore the beautiful array of resources waiting for you@karagoodwin.com. From my book, your Authentic Awakening to Powerful Free Meditations, there's something there to support you no matter where you are on your spiritual path. You can also sign up for my upcoming Miracle Summit where Julie Ryan will be a featured speaker and you can connect with the like-hearted souls and expand your [00:02:00] consciousness in real time with other offerings. And now, enjoy this episode.

Kara Goodwin: , well welcome Julie. I'm so excited to have you on Soul Elevation. Thanks so much for being here.

Julie Ryan: Oh my honor. Thank you for having me.

Kara Goodwin: This is gonna be so much fun. I can't wait to just dive into all this woo stuff with you. And I know that you didn't start this way, and, and what I find fascinating is that you, you, uh, kind of develop these skills in intentionally that you have and you have these amazing skills. So let's talk about your, your background and how, how did you do that and what made you want to do that?

Julie Ryan: Well, I'm a businesswoman and an inventor of surgical devices, so throughout the world who learned how to do woowoo, and I'm a buffet of psychicness. That is what I tell people.

Kara Goodwin: I love it.

Julie Ryan: not a psychic that had dead people chasing her since childhood. Or if I did, I wouldn't have known what to do with that. I didn't realize it. [00:03:00] how to do all of that teach people all over the world how to do it as well. So from all walks of life, everybody can do this. Everybody has the ability. And how it came about was a little more than 30 years ago, a friend gave me a book called Anatomy of the Spirit by Carolyn Mace, who called herself a medical intuitive.

And at that point I'd been in the hospital supply industry for about 10 years and had really started my first company five years into that. Trying to help people heal from the supply side through doctors and other medical providers. And so I'd never heard the term medical intuitive before and I wanted to know more in back then, Carol, we didn't have the internet yet, so I did the old fashioned thing and I went to a bookstore. 'cause I thought they're probably likely gonna have more woo woo stuff than my local library. [00:04:00] And I found a book called Hands of Light by Barbara Brennan, who is a former NASA physicist. She's deceased now, who was a former NASA physicist who parlayed very complex quantum physics principles into understandable English for the non-scientific mind.

That would be me. And she was using energy to help people heal. And I was fascinated by that. So I called her school and I asked if anybody in my area was teaching this stuff. And lo and behold, there they had a graduate who had just opened a school and I studied with her for six years. She's still my mentor.

I talk to her about once a month. She's in her eighties now, mid

Kara Goodwin: Oh wow.

Julie Ryan: um, and then parlayed that over 30 years into. I teach everything in a weekend and people learn how to do what I do. Really, they're doing it within the first hour or two of the weekend. It's really that simple.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my [00:05:00] goodness. That is fascinating and I love that you bring up that, the hands of healing because, um, it's on my coffee table right now. I'm not finished with it, but it's, uh, it's in process and it is so ahead of its time and it's got these.

Julie Ryan: 40 or 50 years ago.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. And it's, you know, got these amazing images and practical tools about how to see your aura and see other people's energy.

So you talk about you being a buffet of psychic skills. What, what's in the buffet? What's on offer? What have you learned?

Julie Ryan: what I learned was that once we connect with spirit, we can do it all in the WOOWOO space. You got the psychics and the mediums and the pet psychics and the death experiencers and the past life regressionists, which connect with spirit. You can do it all. So that's the buffet. I do a call in show every Thursday night.

People call in from all over the world. It's just a blast. 'cause I never [00:06:00] know who's gonna call. I never know what they're gonna ask. I never know what spirit's gonna say. we can talk to your dead grandma. I can scan your cat, I can check your liver. I can, you know, do past life thing. We can get advice from your angels and your spirit guides.

It's just all the same thing. You just connect with spirit and then everything's available.

Kara Goodwin: So what is it like for you if you are scanning somebody energetically for medical insights? For example, um, you know, with Barbara's book, she was clairvoyant and maybe she, she probably had other skills too. But I feel like the book, or at least as much as I've read of it, it seems like it's very much clairvoyant, meaning psychic sight.

Is that similar for you? Because it expresses itself in different ways for different people.

Julie Ryan: Well, what I teach is we wanna use spirit communication in a way that's gonna be easiest for you to decipher it because spirit communication is numerals comes into numbers, and then our [00:07:00] brains decode it. to during World War the allies had groups of people that decoded the Nazi communications and it helped them win the war 'cause they knew what their plans were. Same kind of principle. 'cause if you think about it, numbers are the universal language. So if somebody's a visual learner, it's gonna come in visually, maybe first and then all the other. Senses are gonna come into play. I'm a visual learner, so I thi see things visually. I also feel things. I hear things. I smell things.

I know things. It's all part of the buffet of psychicness and everybody has all the skills. Spirit's gonna send the information numerically, and then our individual brain is gonna decode it based on the easiest way that we learn. If as a visual learner, if I meet you at a party, I'm gonna remember your face, but I'm not gonna remember your name unless I see it perhaps on a name [00:08:00] tag.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Julie Ryan: So.

Kara Goodwin: That's fascinating.

Julie Ryan: somebody who's auditory will hear your name and they'll remember your name just from hearing it.

Kara Goodwin: Right?

Julie Ryan: to answer your question, yes, I see things in my mind's eye. I'm like a human MRI.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Julie Ryan: with somebody with their permission always, and then I shoot energy into them. Takes me a nanosecond to turn my abilities on and off.

And this is what I teach as well. If you wanna meditate for an hour and twirl three times and raise your right hand and jump on your left foot, that's fine, but it's not necessary. it on and off in a nanosecond, and then I'll watch a laser beam come from my body wherever I am, and it'll hook into the person that I'm scanning wherever they are, even if they're in a galaxy far, far away.

It doesn't matter. And then I'll envision shooting energy from their feet up through the top of their head, and it as if I'm looking at an X-ray [00:09:00] or a CT scan or an MRI. So I can see in my mind's eye broken bones, torn ligaments, spiral infections, bacterial infections, cancer or metastasized cancer or whatever. And then spirit works through me and with me to help that person heal so they, as soon as something's identified immediately, an energetic healing will begin. And that can take the form of something getting added, something getting removed. I watch procedures in my mind's eye all the time that emulate what I saw in surgery for those years when I was developing products, testing prototypes with my team and things like that. Sometimes I see healings that use methodologies and devices that haven't been invented yet,

Kara Goodwin: Really.

Julie Ryan: the time.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh, that's so,

Julie Ryan: may

Kara Goodwin: so fascinating.

Julie Ryan: I haven't seen this before.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: And um, and then it's just kind of like, it's in my bag of tricks, you know, it's in my repertoire. And inevitably somebody else will come along with something [00:10:00] that I'll watch that healing.

So the important thing to remember is nobody ever heals anybody else. No doctor, no medical provider, no healer. I don't, we help the person heal themselves. you think about you got a big cut on your leg and you go to the emergency room and the doctor stitches it up, well, the doctor doesn't make your skin grow back.

You make your own skin grow back. The doctor's helping you. Heal your body, and it's the same with this. The energy healing, I believe is part of the healing equation. You got western medicine, eastern medicine, alternative medicine, you know, chiropractic, naturopath, whatever. It's all pieces of the puzzle to help each individual person heal themselves.

Kara Goodwin: Well, I love what you mentioned at the start of that with the numeric, um, aspect of that, and I heard you talking about that in one of your own podcasts as well, [00:11:00] and it sounds like. You don't actually see the numbers coming in. You're, you're, it's translated in the way that your kind of makeup translates.

It is into images.

Julie Ryan: Yeah, my brain is decoding it into

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: and senses and smells, and I get all the time I call 'em divine downloads, direct knowing I just know something

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: um, I. I can communicate with spirit. I'm hearing spirit's saying. Let's say we're talking with a deceased loved one, they're saying, does my mom have a message for me? And that can come in in words. It can come in in images, it can come in in feelings.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: different senses are all at play, and we all use them, and we all have the ability. When we're born, we all come in with it.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: We all have had situations where we think of somebody and then they call us or [00:12:00] they text us or they email us, or we run into them and we say, oh my gosh, I was just thinking of you.

What a coincidence. No coincidence there. That's your

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: ability. And little children have. Their abilities very much on display until the adults in their life tell them, oh, honey, that's just your imagination. That's not really true. It's not really real. And then they learn to not trust it and shut it down. But spirit uses our imagination. That's one of the core components of spirit communication is imagination.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. I love that. And I love that you bring up the, the, the synchronistic aspect to it and how that's a divine communication in, in and of itself. And I do, I I will go ahead and share what I was telling you before we started recording because it was meaningful for me. Um, when you and I started connecting about you coming on the podcast, I had received an email.

And I can't remember the order, but I got, because Sean Leonard has been a [00:13:00] guest on my podcast. And so I had gotten an email from him that was promoting a, an event he was gonna be participating in. And I look at, and it was, there were other guest speakers and I look, and you're on there. And then, and I, again, can't remember if I had just gotten the email from you or your, your team or if it came right after that, but it was like very in, very short order.

Julie Ryan: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: And then, um. I had a listener who I was, uh, connecting with Kathy. Hello, if you're watching, listening. Um, and one, she was expressing some gratitude, which was so thoughtful of her, and she was like, you know, my go-to. Podcasts these days. It's really just you and Julie Ryan and I was just like, oh my gosh, we're, I'm like scheduling her right now.

It was just so profound. So I love that because I have a lot of, I mean, I know you do as well, like there's just a lot of people in our world. So when somebody's like showing up like that multiple times [00:14:00] in these different contexts, it's so much fun.

Julie Ryan: I thought of my brother this morning and within a second he's calling me.

Kara Goodwin: See that's so mysterious. And so, but you know, it does show the way that I experience my strongest connection with divinity is through, um, shapes, really like geometry and, um, so I draw a lot of sacred geometry. I see a lot of sacred geometry. If I'm gonna see clairvoyantly, usually it's more geometric than like.

You know, form. And, um, when I think about synchronicities, I think about it in terms of like, when you have a sacred geometry, you've got all these repeating fractals that make up one shape,

Julie Ryan: Right.

Kara Goodwin: it's this repetition and it's, and so when synchronicities come in, that's what it is. It's re, it's repeating, it's like showing you again and again.

And so it's like, for me, this like living. Um, expression of a sacred geometry [00:15:00] because it's got that repetition in it. But we all, we all experience things, you know, in our own way. That's kind of my what, how I am designed more, you know, and it's harder for me to see things like clear Voyant in the way that you talk about.

It feels like that's so much more direct and to the point, you know?

Julie Ryan: Well, it'll come in eventually. It's been my experience with my students and there's been hundreds of them

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: 15 countries so far, all walks of life and, and what I teach is. attention to how it comes in, the easiest for you. And then the other ones are gonna come online.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: do it, and I think where people get stuck is they say, well, I'm getting things.

I'm hearing things, but I'm not seeing them. Okay, well that's how spirit's communicating with you.

Kara Goodwin: So I know you have a free gift for listeners, and it sounds like this, that, [00:16:00] that the gift is related to what we're talking about. So please share what the gift is and how people can get it.

Julie Ryan: Angelica, attendance. What really happens as we transition from this life into the next is. What the title says, it's how we're all surrounded by angels and the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets. And there are illustrations in the book that talk about it. Everybody goes through the 12 phases of transition, whether they die instantly, like in the case of a homicide or suicide, or whether they die over a prolonged period of time, days, weeks, months, even years. And university based research shows that 90% of people at the end of their lives see the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets, 90%. So this information is really helpful not only to the person who's dying, but to the family members as well. 'cause they're worried about what's going on. And when we're going through [00:17:00] that with a loved one, certainly we all are facing our own mortality. we're thinking, ah, gonna be there. I'm gonna be there one day. You know what's gonna happen? And people are so afraid, I think, of what can happen just from how we've been conditioned.

Kara Goodwin: Right. Well that's a beautiful offering. And has that in insight come to you through experience with helping people to transition or, or from like your medium sessions?

Julie Ryan: Came with my mother when

Kara Goodwin: Um.

Julie Ryan: was dying in 2002. I'd been studying the WOOWOO stuff for about, I don't know, five years, six years, something like that, and mother was dying. It was very unexpectedly. I was in the room. For about the last 24 hours of her life. She lives in Columbus, Ohio. We are in Birmingham, Alabama.

So we drove through the night to get there and. I felt like the Lady of Justice statue, you know, the [00:18:00] balance. 'cause on one side my heart was breaking 'cause my mother was dying on the other side. I was seeing all this glorious stuff and I thought, whoa, what is this stuff? So I saw. The 12 phases. I saw her go through all those phases, and we can talk about that in a minute if you want. And then fast forward a few years, I was with my mentor she was doing a healing on me. And when she's doing a healing on me, all my deceased loved ones spirits are on either side of the table. I'm on a massage table and she's doing an energetic healing on me. And one day this dead pope showed up. And he had his pope outfit on and his shepherd's rod and the whole nine yards.

And I said, well, who are you? he and Susan, my mentor, could see him too. And I said, well, who are you? And he said, I'm Clement. And I said, I'm really sorry. I never heard of Pope Clement, and I'm 12 years Catholic schools. I never heard of a Pope Clement. And he [00:19:00] laughed and he said, well, I was number six. I said, okay.

How may I help you? And he said, you need to teach the world. What happens when somebody dies? 'cause it's been so bastardized over the millennia and people are afraid and there's nothing to be afraid of. It's glorious. And you know that. And I said, well, thanks so much, but I'm a businesswoman and people will think I'm nuts, so I'm not interested.

But thanks so much for stopping by. He said, no, no, no, no, no. Everything that you've done over your lifetime is to pre prepare you for this, so you just need to get on with it. Again, I said, thank you so much. I'm not interested. Fast forward a couple of, well, fast forward, I'm in the car leaving from Susan's office and I just looked him up just for kicks. come to find out, this guy was in office during the black plague when two thirds of Europe died, and he's best known for his prayers for the dying in his prayers for the dead.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Julie Ryan: Ryan, you can't make that up. [00:20:00] So a couple years go by and I'm in church sitting between my husband and my son, and the priest from the pulpit says, wouldn't it be nice if somebody could tell us if the angels and our loved ones really meet us and. Lead us into paradise, and I'm getting elbowed from my husband and my son, and I'm saying, God, really? From the pulpit in the middle of church on Sunday morning. So I finally decided that, all right, all right, all right, all right, I'll do something with it. And that's when I wrote Angelica attendance, and it's just bloomed from there.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. So you gave us a little bit of a teaser with what happens in the process. Do you wanna expand on that?

Julie Ryan: sure. our spirit exits through the top of our head, looks like a a, uh, cartoon speech bubble where the cartoon character's thoughts or words are, and then there's the female [00:21:00] spirit, the maternal spirit. If my, if I was dying, my mother's deceased, it would be my mother. If she was still alive, it would be my grandmother. If she was still alive, it would be my great-grandmother. Always on the maternal line. They're the first spirit to show up, which surprised me. thought I, you know, God certainly has a departure department in heaven and dispatches angels or something like to go help people die.

Kara Goodwin: You're like, can I reorg this?

Julie Ryan: I, I just thought what really, when I saw my grandmother there, so, and she had just died six months prior to my mother, um, grandmother showed up and then my mother's father's spirit showed up and they were at, let's say, just for conversation's sake, somebody's in a bed when they're dying. My grandparents were at my mother's feet, and then this circle of angels formed with my grandparents anchoring it at my mother's feet. [00:22:00] And these are big old angels, big wings, white gown, barefoot rope belt. That's what I was taught they look like in Catholic school. Like the statuary and the paintings.

The artwork. Is that what they really look like? Well, that's how they appear to me because that's, I was taught they look like that. But somebody who grows up, let's say in an indigenous culture in the middle of the Amazon, they may see an angel. Energy is just a blob of purple fog or something. always gonna show up in a way that we're gonna be able to recognize who they are.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: So as the person's getting closer to death, that circle of angels opens up into a horseshoe, and then eventually is a straight line across the foot of the bed. And I call them angelic crowd control because during the other phases there are. Thousands upon thousands of other spirits that come into the area. And I call them the welcome to heaven committee. [00:23:00] from all this person's lifetimes and they're dressed in period dress, dress, caveman, dress, you know, 1960s, go-go boots and mini skirts, whatever. And there, there's so many of 'em that they look like dots on the horizon. In the meantime, a couple of interesting nuances about phase six. There are two extra angels that show up on either side of the spirit bubble, what I call the spirit bubble. And about phase nine, between nine and 10 Kara, their wings start to move, and it reminded me when I was watching it with my mother, it reminded me of an owl. A giant owl, you know, their wings are so fluid and they're silent, and you can almost feel the drag that they create.

If you've ever seen a documentary or a story about owls. So I thought, well, this is gonna be interesting. I mean, I had no idea what was gonna happen. And over a, a [00:24:00] couple of hours with my mother, their movement started to form a vortex above her

Kara Goodwin: Oh.

Julie Ryan: and it had an upward pull. It felt like it reminded me of driving through the car wash when they put the dryer on at the end, and it's sucking all the water, you know, off the car. So it was something I could see, I could feel, I could hear, and I knew. In some way, it was gonna help her spirit evacuate. I believe that's what the ND EERs talk about, going through a tunnel or sometimes a vortex. That's what they're experiencing.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Julie Ryan: So in, in fact, that's what did happen. My mother's spirit separated from her body, went through the vortex, and then was escorted to heaven by the angels on either side of her spirit of her spirit bubble.

You know, the wings, heaven looks like this. Plasma wall. Really bright, yellowish, whitish. You go through it, no trace, you come back [00:25:00] out, no trace. It was really interesting. Did you see the movie contact with Jodi Foster

Kara Goodwin: Yes,

Julie Ryan: when? Remember when she was on the other planet and she touched the air and it was plasma?

Kara Goodwin: I kind of vaguely remember that.

Julie Ryan: Yeah. And her father, you know, was the alien dressed as her father's spirit's gonna show up in a way that we're gonna recognize

Kara Goodwin: Mm.

Julie Ryan: and be comfortable with them. there's that. And, um, so couple of nuances that are interesting. First of all, when I was writing Angelic attendance, my book, I thought. I'm just gonna do some research on owl wings vortex. Just see if there's something there. Uh, obviously I was led and what I learned was there's this phenomenon called the wing tip vortex, which is an aeronautical engineering situation where anything that flies, whether it be a [00:26:00] jet, a plane, a bird, a bug, a kite, whatever. Vortices form from the air going over the wings and underneath the wings and the vortices cause lift. So I thought, all right, this is pretty wild. You know, here are these angel wings causing this vortex and it's helping my mother's spirit separate from her body and causes lift. It's kind of like a rocket shooting a, you know, to detach. Another interesting thing is I always see the spirit go up into the right. And I never knew why. I had no clue. So I was giving a talk one time, and this physicist professor came up to me afterwards and he said, I know why the spirit goes up into the right. And I said, really? Help me? he said, well, think about when you're screwing on the lid of a jar. What do you do? You, when you're putting it on, you're screwing it clockwise. When you're taking it off, you're screwing [00:27:00] it. Counterclockwise. So you come around to the left and it goes up to the right when you lift it off. So he said, that makes total sense to me. And I said, I love it when science catches up with woo woo.

'cause woo woo's been around a whole lot longer. Another interesting point, there's a prayer set at the, at the end of every Roman Catholic funeral called in Para deum. Which translated from Latin means into Paradise, and it talks about how your loved ones will be greeted by angels and deceased loved ones and led into paradise.

And at my mother's funeral, I thought, whoa, I saw this. Like in a totally different way. I'd heard that prayer a bunch of times throughout my life, but it really had a new meaning for me. again, I did some research and learned that that prayer originated as a fifth century Gregorian chant. I.

Kara Goodwin: Oh.

Julie Ryan: [00:28:00] Perhaps it took till the fifth century, till somebody was well educated enough that they could read and write. certainly some of the most learned people back then were men living in monasteries and synagogues. They were the scribes. So I have to believe that people have been able to see the 12 phases of transition since the beginning of time, and maybe it just took till the fifth, fifth century till somebody could write it down.

But it's something that people have always known. The other thing that I think is interesting with all of this is the university based research, as I mentioned, that all those spirits are there and that 90% of people. That are dying. See the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets. So it validates, again, science is catching up with woo woo. It validates all this stuff that I talk about in my book. we used to think, well, grandma's just hallucinating from the morphine that hospice is giving her. No. [00:29:00] Grandma's actually seeing her deceased mother who died 60 years ago. And she can communicate with her. It's almost like we have one foot in the spirit world and one foot in our human world as we're dying. And another important thing is everybody goes through this regardless of how they die. Since time doesn't exist in the spirit world, time's a human creation, somebody who dies instantly, like in the case of a homicide or suicide, goes through the 12 phases of transition. Somebody who dies over a prolonged of time, days, weeks, months, even years, goes through it too.

Everybody goes through the 12 phases of transition.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. What fascinating insights, and it sounds like you've been able to experience this multiple times beyond even with when your mom, when you went through it with your mom.

Julie Ryan: Thousands. And so

Kara Goodwin: So.

Julie Ryan: parish, my Catholic church gives one of my books to every family that comes [00:30:00] in to plan a funeral. There are many churches of all denominations all over the country that give copy of my book, the There synagogues, I mean hospice. give it to family members. And if you read the reviews on Amazon, I think there are over 500 of 'em. People talk about, oh my gosh, this was so comforting to my family and me. It helped me get through it. It's, I had a client last week who told me this was the most touching thing anybody's ever said to me since I've been doing this work. She, her twin sister passed. She was diagnosed with malignant melanoma and was dead in two months.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Julie Ryan: So she said, we all read your book, including my sister. She said, we knew what to expect. We knew what was happening, and your sister just wanted to binge your show

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Julie Ryan: her comfort. And my client said, well, don't you wanna listen to some music or something?

She said, no, I [00:31:00] just wanna listen to Julie's show because it makes me know. There's way more to the story than meets the eye in this human form. And I thought, oh my goodness. You

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: sweet thing

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: me. And she said, I will never be able to thank you. And I said, honey, you just did.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: And

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful.

Julie Ryan: are just endless

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: this helps people get through the transition process.

Kara Goodwin: And, and from like, have you per, have you, um, witnessed other transitions your, like beyond your mo

Julie Ryan: Thousands.

Kara Goodwin: you, you've witnessed them Oh, wow.

Julie Ryan: in person, I can connect with somebody anywhere in

Kara Goodwin: Right. Right. And so it's consi, the, the process is consistent.

Julie Ryan: And anybody can do this, whether they've learned how to do Woo or not. Because if you go to my website, ask julie ryan.com, and you go to the 12 phases of transition page, [00:32:00] there's a chart there with. Illustrations of all the different phases, download it, save it on your phone. And if you're going through this with a loved one, just say, what phase is grandma in? You'll hear seven. You refer to the chart, it's on your phone, and then you know what's going on. You have a visual of how the angels and all the loved ones spirits and pet spirits are there. And then if you're seeing that grandma's going through phase 7, 8, 9. In rapid succession, then you know, you need to bring the family in 

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Julie Ryan: say goodbye.

Kara Goodwin: Well, what a huge gift for humanity and for listeners, so thank you so much.

Julie Ryan: I think this stuff should be taught in the schools,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: give away thousands of books

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. That's beautiful. So you talked about, um, the period dress

Julie Ryan: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: how, um, you know, thousands of people or beings spirits are there kind of watching and that the angels [00:33:00] are, are the, what'd you call it, crowd control.

Julie Ryan: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Uh,

Julie Ryan: crowd control.

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Um, and that makes me think about past lives. So you kind of mentioned that it's everybody related to the one who's transitioning across time and space. So how, how are people's past lives impacting this life? Why do you think that people from other lives would be interested in this life? Does that make sense?

For the person transitioning.

Julie Ryan: to help? Welcome the person to heaven.

Kara Goodwin: Right. And then also be even beyond the death process. What, how are previous lives impacting the current life?

Julie Ryan: Well, I think they all impact the current life because we come in, 'cause we wanna explore and experience things

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Julie Ryan: they're all a progression of what we've already explored. So let's say you were a mass murderer in a past life. [00:34:00] Let's just make it dramatic. I mean, what the heck, right? As an example, let's say you're a mass murderer in a past life this lifetime you wanna come in as the one who's murdered.

'cause you wanna explore it from the different. or another lifetime. You come in as the mother of the father of the sibling, of the friend, of the spouse, of the child of, and we're looking at the same basic script from a different perspective. What I've been told a bazillion times from spirit is there's no right, there's no wrong in the spirit world.

It's just an experience. And so we come in to look at things from a different perspective. An analogy I like to use for this is think of Hamlet. How many times has Hamlet been performed since, say, since Shakespeare wrote it in in 1602? Who knows, but certainly same script, different perspective. When was it performed where?

In what language? What was [00:35:00] happening in the world at the time? What was the interpretation? Who were the actors? Who was the director? Who was the set designer? Was it inside? Was it outside? All the same script, same basic script, and we're exploring it from a different perspective. That's my take on how this works With past lives, there are lots of schools of thought too, that we're living multiple lifetimes concurrently. And that makes my head wanna explode because I can't even begin to fathom that. And yet I go to the place of, is it feasible? Yeah. Do I understand it from a human perspective? No. Will I, when I get back to heaven? Absolutely. So I just say, okay, that's one of those mysteries

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Julie Ryan: I'll, I'll like, I'll understand it more when I'm back in pure spirit form.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, there are some things that this human mind has a really hard time being able to, to figure out the mechanics of how that could be possible.

Julie Ryan: And I don't think we're supposed to know everything

Kara Goodwin: [00:36:00] Yeah.

Julie Ryan: to be having the human experience.

Kara Goodwin: Right, and the veils are these really heavy veils are part of it,

Julie Ryan: Yeah. Right.

Kara Goodwin: but of course you teach people how to thin their veils. So is there anything that you can share here on how people can start to help to develop their senses?

I.

Julie Ryan: When we know and think of our head as like a big satellite dish that receives and transmits frequencies, every spirit has a frequency they keep throughout all of their lifetimes. So in order to get in touch with somebody, spirit. Whether they're attached to a body or not is irrelevant. Whether you knew them or not is irrelevant.

You just think of them. Who do you wanna talk to? Your grandmother in heaven, Moses, Elvis. It doesn't matter. You just think of 'em. That connects your satellite dish head to their frequency instantly. And it opens up a two-way radio communication. And then you say [00:37:00] something either aloud or in your head and they're going to answer you how you know it's them.

And coming from spirit is, it's that first thing comes into your head fast as you can snap your fingers or before. Because sometimes, remember, time doesn't exist in the spirit world, so, so oftentimes spirit will already have. What you're saying and they'll be responding even before you'd finish thinking the thought. And that trips people up. 'cause they say, well, I didn't even finish my thought yet. Doesn't matter. Time doesn't exist in the spirit world. So it's super easy. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. And then it's just second nature.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Julie Ryan: Spirit is always communicating with us. always, always, it's whether or not we have our receiver head tuned to the Spirit Channel.

Kara Goodwin: hmm.

Julie Ryan: analogy of, obviously I talk in analogies a lot to give us a human frame of [00:38:00] reference, and I use the analogy of. say the classical music station, the I feel good channels, you know, are are 1 0 4, 0.7 is classical, or disco is 1 0 4 0.8. You can't listen to disco music and be in a bad mood. I grew up in the disco era.

You can't, it's impossible. But when you're listening to. The old fashioned country music station with the whiny, you know, sad songs where somebody's about Mama the truck and the dog. I call those the I feel crappy channels. Well, spirit doesn't communicate on the, I feel crappy channels 'cause the vibration's too low Spirit's, vibrations really high 'cause they don't have the density of a body. when you're tuned to the Spirit channel. They can communicate with us and how, you know, you're tuned to the Spirit Channel is you feel good. You know, you don't have to be zippity do day and around, but you feel good. You feel neutral at least, or you feel [00:39:00] happy. And then spirit can communicate because it's kind of like if you have satellite TV and the, there's a storm. Blowing through and it messes up the satellite feed. Well, that TV show is still being broadcast. Your receiver just isn't able to pick it up. Furthermore, people who are in deep grief, I always recommend that they ask their loved ones to visit them in their dreams because our vibrational level resets to the level of spirit every night when we sleep. We go back to the factory preset level of spirit, so it's easier for us to receive communication from spirit sometimes when we're sleeping and how you know that it's a visit instead of just a dream is it's almost like it's in high def. The colors are more vibrant, the senses are crisper. The, you [00:40:00] remember all of the details, all of that, that's a visit.

Versus dreams are kind of murky and oftentimes we don't remember all the nuances of them.

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful. Are there any nuances to do with the pet communication? Is it pretty much the same formula or are there any kind of particulars when you're, when you're communicating with pets?

Julie Ryan: just think of 'em. tunes your satellite dish head to their spirit. You communicate with them whether they're alive or deceased is irrelevant 'cause

Kara Goodwin: Mm. Mm-hmm. Oh, so fascinating. Well, Julie, this has been amazing. I've, I've just loved every second of our discussion. Please tell people how they can connect with you and find out more.

Julie Ryan: Ask Julie ryan.com. at Ask Julie. Ryan. My shows we release four shows a week and uh, we've got five YouTube channels in five languages.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Julie Ryan: [00:41:00] Ryan, we've, we're on all the podcast networks that ask Julie Ryan. everything's at Ask Julie Ryan on the social media stuff. So ask julie ryan.com.

You can get to anywhere you want from there, 

kara-goodwin_2_08-25-2025_144733: And then you have some training coming up right where the people can join. 

squadcaster-8h06_2_08-25-2025_134733: That's right. If you wanna learn the buffet of Psychicness, I do the training twice a year, and the in-person training is October 24th through the 26th in Atlanta, Georgia. And I rent out a hotel that's adjacent to the airport, so it has. Free shuttle. That's the busiest airport in the world. You can get there from anywhere and it's just a blast.

You learn to do everything within a weekend. It's so much fun. It is so much fun that I have. Dozens of volunteers who are graduates that come in on their own dime to participate to help the new students. So anybody 

kara-goodwin_2_08-25-2025_144733: Wow, 

squadcaster-8h06_2_08-25-2025_134733: ask julie ryan.com. You'll see it, and it's called Angelica Attendant [00:42:00] Training in Atlanta, October 24th through the 26th.

Come join us.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Well, thank you so much for being here, and it's just been such a joy.

Julie Ryan: my honor. Thanks for having me. I.

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