468. Reality Shifts, Quantum Consciousness & Ascension Timelines - Cynthia Sue Larson

Cynthia Sue Larson

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Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding Your Ascension to New Heights. I'm your host Kara Goodwin, and it was a huge treat to talk again with the amazing Cynthia Sue Larson. I've had such powerful activations from reading her book Reality Shifts, so that's where we begin the conversation.

But as we go on, we talk about Cynthia's remembered incarnation of a dystopian earth 500 years in the future, as well as her memories of life before she was born into this life. Her Kundalini awakening, active involvement in moving an earthquake to avoid devastation and many other topics that will expand and stretch your consciousness in the best way.

Cynthia Sue Larson is the bestselling author of several books, including The Mandela Effect in its Society, quantum Jumps, reality Shifts, and High Energy Money. [00:01:00] Cynthia has a degree in physics from uc, Berkeley, an MBA, A Doctor of Divinity, .

A second degree Black belt. Cynthia is founder of Reality Shifters, first president of the International Mandela Effect Conference, managing Director of the Foundations of Mind and Creator and host of Living the Quantum Dream Podcast,

and she's been featured in numerous shows, including Gaia, the History Channel, coast to Coast AM and the BBC Cynthia reminds us to ask in every situation,

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Kara Goodwin: So welcome, Cynthia. I'm so excited to have you here today.

Thanks so much for coming on. 

Cynthia Larson: Oh, it's such a pleasure to be with you. I love talking with you, and I think our conversations get into subjects that matter these days. Maybe I'm biased, but I think they have a lot to do with what we can do when we feel like there's nothing 

Kara Goodwin: we can do. So I think this is super important.

That's one place where I wanna take this discussion today. Um, but before we get to all of that, you know, you, you have written some amazing books and the reason that I even wanted to have you back on the show, well, for one thing, I just love spending time with you, but I was reading reality [00:03:00] shifts and I, I just find when I read your, your work, it has a life to it.

There is a consciousness of your work, and it starts to work in the background of, like, I've, I've had this happen. I've read three of your books now, and each time I, I experience synchronicities, I feel like. It helps me just reading the content without actually even doing. You do have practices and exercises in there, but even just reading it without necessarily even quote unquote doing anything, I can feel these shifts happen.

I notice all of these sync synchronicities coming in and it's like magic and so I love to share that kind of thing. I've, I. Want people to have that type of experience. But, um, we started talking about coming, having you come on again, because I reached out to you like, oh my gosh, I was reading your book.

And then [00:04:00] I asked in meditation, how good can it get? And then all these things, it was like this waterfall of beautiful experience after beautiful experience, um, started happening where I was getting these beautiful texts of gratitude and, um, mysterious venmos showing up, you know, and, and like just out of, oh, I just wanted to send this in.

Appreciation and, um. And just interesting things, lining up appointments, being pulled forward, and conversations. I remember one particular magical day, I had three podcast recordings on that day, and oh my gosh, there was like this, um, they would just pick up where the other one left off, where somebody would start picking up on something and saying something spontaneously, and it was reflecting where the last conversation left off [00:05:00] and it was just very magical and beautiful.

So I wanna thank you for that because we all need some magic in our lives. Um, but let's start with just talking a little bit about your background. If you wanna, just in case there's anybody who didn't hear our first conversation, how did you even get into this type of work and, and interest? 

Cynthia Larson: It's been actually literally a lifelong interest.

But, um, the more succinct way to say it is that I had, um, a very energetic spiritual awakening involving Kundalini. I, I think that's still a difficult way to start things out. 'cause like, what's Kundalini? And basically it was an awakening of the energy centers in my body and everything just came on online, if you will.

My view of what reality is, was kind of shattered without any drugs. And anytime [00:06:00] I would struggle to return to my, it is like I was trying to pull myself back into the chrysalis. Like, no, I don't want to pop out and I don't know what I've turned into, but this, this, everything's wrong. So I'm like trying to shut it back up again.

Back in the crystal, get the toothpaste back in the tube. Is that even a thing? Yeah, it, it was hilarious. Now it was not hilarious at the time, I can assure you because, um, what would happen. Is super psychotic events would occur. I'm laughing again because it would totally grab my attention. Things would get worse, let's put it that way.

Oh, a worse in the sense of shocking. Um, the shock was required so that I would drop my pretense that I could continue being, um, the kind of person I'd been. Who was I at that point? Um, I'd studied physics. I had a degree in physics from uc, Berkeley. Then I thought I'd worked at Space Sciences Laboratory on solar flare data with a satellite going around the sun and the earth.

And it was a NASA project, so I thought I, once I worked with scientists, I saw these guys need help. They don't [00:07:00] know how to manage anything or talk to each other. So I went to business school. So this is, I'm just giving you that sort of feedback, uh, of background about what happened before the Kundalini awakening.

And so then I've been working, you may wonder where did that go? Well, after the MBA degree, I worked at Citibank as a project manager. Everything seemed normal. That's what I want to emphasize. But to be honest, I was not a normal child. Never was normal. And so it's, uh, this didn't come out of absolutely nowhere for me to have a breakthrough kundalini awakening, where suddenly my consciousness was, um, simultaneously at many very high levels of operation outside of my body.

And it was clear that that was the real me. And that this meat suit, water bag of body is sort of a, it's like, it's like a playing piece on a game board more, it's more like that. Or like you're playing a role model game. And then I realized I am this other being, and that's, and of who I am [00:08:00] is way bigger than fits in this body.

And, but denying it at the time felt easier because it was comfortable. So I was in a and, and I want to set the stage with that because that was really what was going on. If you want to know the honest truth, why would I study such a wacky area when my whole background prior to that point was pretty normal?

And actually there were other things that were not normal in my background, but sort of, it's too much. I mean, but every time something unusual happened, my typical response was, let's try to act normal. We're just gonna kind of blend in again, calm it down. You can try to act normal even though you're seeing things nobody else is seeing, and a little bit more telepathic than most, and all this.

But with the Kundalini, it just went off the hook. Telepathic went to crazy tuned in instant simultaneous awareness of things going on, and the efficacy to influence events that are non-local to me, that were definitely happening. Just, it just so the whole Kundalini thing combined with all the other stuff was [00:09:00] huge, so.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. 

Cynthia Larson: But it, well, for me, that was the moment that I could no longer pretend that this was not happening. And so trying to settle myself into my new way of being like, okay, so now I, I, at that point, I left Citibank. I was the mother of two young daughters. Again, I had been trying to be normal. Well, I had to give that up.

And so reality shifts was the first real book, my first entrance onto the scene, um, saying, okay, I'll try to hug this, embrace this, bring this out, share it. Um, I would talk to my neighbors. I could see they were not thrilled about a topic, about have you noticed that sometimes things appear out of nowhere or they disappear or they transform or they transport, or there's a huge change in the way you experience time.

And it could include synchronicities and instant healing too. To me, all of these went together under this mind matter interaction, um, umbrella. And my regular, everyday neighbors and parents of my [00:10:00] daughter's friends were not thrilled to hear about this. Fortunate. Fortunately though, fortunately for me, it was the 1990s, the beginning of what would become a.

Blogging and social media. There wasn't any of that. But I did start a newsletter recognizing there must be other people like me, I guess my role. Um, and I'd had previous spiritual experiences that were just huge nudges. So I know like, okay, get out there. Talk about this weird stuff. I know it's embarrassing.

So because of my physics background, because of my business background, because I was an ordinary sort of person at that point pretending to be ordinary. Um, so it was at that juncture after the Kundalini awakening when I was no longer able to ignore that. I was literally seeing buildings, statues, sculptures, you name it.

Literally people, cars vanishing or appearing right in front of me. And this appeared to not be some freakish one-time event or a one-off. Instead, it [00:11:00] looks like this is what is really the core nature of reality. And at that point, nobody was talking about it much that I saw. Later there would be books like The Secret and so forth.

But, so this was my foray into this book. Reality Shifts was the beginning of my way of sharing. This is what I've experienced. And there's a lot going on with reality. It's a lot more like a waking dream than people realize, and that's a good thing. So I'm constantly coming back to the radical optimism.

That's just part of who I am. And so I bring that into everything I do, which to me, helps me be a safe guide for people reading the books so they don't inadvertently fall into some pitfall or unfortunate area because we are talking mind matter interaction. And it's super important at these times because there are energies happening.

So everybody's starting to basically collectively go through what looks like a Kundalini awakening for all of us without much warning or [00:12:00] preparation. So this book, reality Shifts is I. Was my first, um, hello to humanity after like, okay, I've gone through this. Let's talk about it. Let's, um, share the science of it, the ancient history of it.

'cause there is ancient history, some personal experiences and the exercises. And I think you're right. I think I'm writing at a level. I think it is the consciousness coming through me at higher levels, which then infuses whatever I'm working on with the intent that anybody touching or reading it will benefit from all the best, all, all of the, how good can it get part of it?

That would be my hope and desire. Yeah. Yes. You'd nailed it. It 

Kara Goodwin: everything. Thank you. Well, it is a very activating book, which is, those are my favorite books when they're, you know, positively activating in that way. There are so many things that I wanna talk about with your work and with the book. Uh, you did talk about you, you've touched on.

How you [00:13:00] have perceived reality shifts. But if we can just kind of make sure that it's clear for anybody listening if they're like, I am not sure what they're talking about with reality shifts. Mm-hmm. Um, can you talk about what that is? Yeah. Well, 

Cynthia Larson: we've got the little gateway ones where I think everybody can relate to this, and this is what I would try to talk to neighbors about.

And they would sort of relate, but then back away anyway. Um, it's that situation where you're in a hurry. Usually it's a mad dash. You have to get out the door in five minutes and you're just grabbing your coat, your keys, your purse, whatever you normally, the three things you always grab except one of them is not there.

Um, usually in this case it might be the keys. And this is weird because maybe there's nobody else in the house. Maybe it was just you or there is a person and you directly confront them and they deny anything to do with it. So now, now we're in a whole different situation, uh, because if you're like me and you put things where they need to go, every place has a, you know, everything has a place and everything goes there.

Well, that is not happening, so what's going on? [00:14:00] So that's one example. And then, but it gets weirder. The here's where the weirdness really kicks in. It's where you keep searching the house or wherever you are. Maybe you're at work or any, but it happens at home a lot. You come back to one of the places you've searched, perhaps the first place, and there are the keys.

And again, you're the only person in the house or there's just that one other person who you do trust and they don't play games like this. And now you've got a weird situation. You're in a hurry though. So off you go. So that's one that most people have encountered. Another one would be, um, the joke about socks getting lost in the drying machine.

I mean, that's so funny. So lost socks and missing keys. There's such a common occurrence that that is like, I joke, the gateway. It's sort of where things start with these small things. And again, you can search the washing machine. The drying machine, every single step along the journey. And even inside every single article of clothing, if you're very, um, you know, detail focused and you, you might notice like, where are these going?

[00:15:00] They're vanishing. Indeed, there's like some black hole, and it's such a common occurrence that people do joke about it. Um, sometimes they come back. So this, this whole idea of things disappearing and reappearing, there's a very big part of the phenomenon, and this, this is, I've noticed it. Another big thing that people notice are changes in time.

Like if you're in a hurry and you're relaxed. You can somehow get to where you're going somehow just on time when that's impossible. Or you might even show up early, or you might have traveled away farther in less time than it's humanly possible and you were not speeding or running all the traffic lights.

So these are some really typical ones. Um, but then it gets weirder from there. And I've had some doozies. Yes, you were. I think we all, I think most of us who started experiencing this have had some really remarkable events where like, okay, these other ones were maybe, I wish, I don't know what happened, but this one, this one blew my mind.

And I've had a whole bunch like that. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, [00:16:00] some that just defy logic really. You know, your hair suddenly went curly. Yes. And as well as another friend of yours simultaneously, you both went from having straight hair to curly hair. Um, which it, it's, that's another. Aspect to this is that instantaneous, you know, things that we might think, well, it could be possible that like you have hormone changes and eventually your hair becomes more curlier or, or whatever it might be.

But it's like it just happened overnight, right? And um, that I, I find, so that's something that I've been, it's been going around in my head a lot lately because from you mentioned about also the collective awakening that we're going through. And so this is reality shifts is a really fun kind of topic to think about individually and to get into individually.

Then when you think about it at the collective level and it's like, hmm, we have a lot to overcome right now. [00:17:00] There's some real tragedy going on in our world right now, and we can feel overwhelmed thinking like in a linear way, you know, like, okay, if, if, if we're gonna clean this up. We have to do X then comes Y, and then we can do Z, but we can't do Z until X and Y are in place.

You know, that's kind of how we problem solve in a linear way. And things like, everything that you read in reality shifts it, it changes that, you know, it opens our minds up to be able to hold more possibilities. Because if your hair can go curly in an instant, yes. What is this reality like, we are not stuck with this linear progression of, of solution.

So I don't know. I mean, how, how do you see it in terms of the collective? 

Cynthia Larson: Yeah, I do touch on that in the book. [00:18:00] Thank you for pointing that out. And I think that's part of what matters most is the relationships we have. To levels of ourself and to others and to becoming more loving, less fearful, less, uh, reactive and sort of knee-jerk responding to a situation with fear or panic, um, or, or all sorts of other things.

Um, I, I, I got lots of opportunities in the book reality shifts to share some of these relationship experiences. Like a friend, my friend's, my best friend from high school's, brother was going, I think I mentioned that story where I was feeling things that he was going through. One, unbeknownst to me, he was having very serious health problems.

I'm not gonna go into all the details and upset people, but long story short, I was able. By starting to trust this connection, which seemed like it came out of nowhere. Remember, it's after that Kundalini awakening, which I don't even talk about in the book much I've, for your show. I'm explaining that's the background to mm-hmm.

So if people want to get into this book and know what was behind that book that was behind that book, [00:19:00] so, but that huge kundalini awakening note helping me notice that I could be in direct connection with people who I care about and I could, um, basically be a facilitator for sending love. Which is so powerful and healing intentions, which are miraculous.

Um, then the, the next thing, I'm not going to spoil the book, but that mirror miraculous results were able to happen. And so this is where you start noticing a ho. So there is something going on possibly for us as a collective. Absolutely. This is not just a solo experience where I can line my own pockets with gold or whatever.

It's not, that would not be much of a win for me because what the only way I really feel like I'm winning. It's a spiritual path really. And so I need to feel that everyone is living their best possible lives, meaning feeling that they're here, being able to do what they wanted to do, what they love to be, that their beingness is being embraced and recognized and shining [00:20:00] through.

So. I know I'm kind of going a a little bit around this topic, but to me it, um, it, it shows us who we are, um, this, this phenomenon of mind matter interaction by engaging us with the possibility. What if everyday life is a waking dream? What if all of reality is a little bit. Like an illusion. And that's good news.

Remember I keep saying that's good news. I am a radical optimist because what I notice is when I ask the questions like how good can it get? And in this book, reality shifts, I have a whole lot of, um, things that you can say toward the end of the book. Very beautiful little, they're like affirmations. So if you wanna retrain what's the chatter running through your head, you can do that and start.

And there's also pictures, illustrations in the book of why you want to do that. Because sometimes most of us have intentions that are very positive. Like, maybe I do wanna heal a friend, but then I've got some sort of interfering thoughts like, who am I to think I can do that? Or I don't have any special powers.

Or it just instead of [00:21:00] a me wet blanket effect. And that and that kind of, and those are ridiculous random beliefs, you know, you could just as easily believe, of course, you were created to be able to love people and through your love, be a direct channel for this. How good can it get exploration of complete?

Complete, and I mean complete, miraculous healing for any situation, anything at all. And so what if you can tap into that, tune into that and recognize that that is possible. That's another belief. And so that's the power of looking at these beliefs, that they're not your thoughts, they're just thoughts randomly going through.

And then you can, I've got an exercise in the book that shows how to pay attention right down these random mis mischievous thoughts that are causing trouble. I've been through that too. Mm-hmm. And you, and you write them down, then you can flip them around, create the, um, the antidote for these, or the antivirus or whatever you, you can create something positive that becomes your personal affirmation.

To directly deal with this collapsing [00:22:00] effect. And they can build back your construct of interference, of them building up this strength, of this wave function form, sending this love to another for their beautiful, complete healing. And you can be, um, part of that. And it's not about getting the credit for it, it's just being feeling like, okay, this is working.

So it needs to be for the right reasons. That's why it's a spiritual journey. Um, so every step of the way there are challenges, if you will, of looking at what do I really believe? Who am I really, what am I here to do? And it's, to me, it's all one big, huge invitation to find out how good I can get, how good we can get, how good life can be, even amidst all of this chaos that's happening in the world right now.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. I love that. Thank you. You know. One of your gifts, and you've touched on this while we've been talking too, but you, your, your high intelligence and your scientific bent, you know, you are able to take complicated. You know, I don't think that [00:23:00] there's much that's more complicated than quantum physics.

Quantum science, but I know that you're very adept at helping to break that down so that it's easier to understand. So I'd love for you to, to explain a little bit of the science of the quantum, um, so that people, if they don't have a foundation, they can, they can have that. And then I want to use that to go to the next place.

But can you, can you help to break down the science a little bit? 

Cynthia Larson: Yeah. Well, at the beginning of this book, reality Shifts, I talk about, um, beliefs. I start right there, like what we believe, and you might think that has nothing to do with science, but that actually has everything to do with science. Because the assumptions we make are the footing, the, the, the ground that we build all of our science upon.

Where we start with the, um, we have to have those assumptions. These assumptions are pivotal and they tend to go unstudied unexamined. And [00:24:00] that's, um, we need to take a look at them. Obviously, when you start noticing mind matter interaction, some of the key assumptions having to do with the pillars of science are, uh, we don't, like I said, we don't think about 'em much, but it's matter is presumed to be primary.

So the only thing that matters is what you can measure. And we hear this all the time, it's like, where's your proof? Where's the material proof? Do you have something objective that you can look, oh, I just used another assumption. Objective is another one. Notice how they all come together too. Like, ooh, they're clustering.

Yeah, these assumptions like to support each other. So the objectivity is another big assumption where we can prove this, that this supposed material fact is true everywhere for everyone. And if you look at the work of, um, biologist Rupert Sherick, you'll see that the so-called constants change, and it's not a one-off either.

It's like they're all changing. I'm sorry to laugh. To me, it's hilarious. Constant. They're [00:25:00] constantly changing. And that's, that's where I start with my, my book. It's like the only thing that's constant is change. Um, and so within this, okay, the other as, let me be thorough with the four assumptions that I mentioned.

So we talked about material matters is all that matters, right? That's what. Because they like the people, um, that are material realists like to believe. They like to believe in objectivity. They like to believe, um, in locality that if you do something right here, like if you, um, you know, if you fix a tea cup in California, it doesn't cause a flood in China.

Um, that there's no absolutely no connection. Laughing again, quantum physics says Ha. And then the fourth one, the fourth one is that you can absolutely, specifically know the outcome to a question. Um, and quantum physics says, no, it's gonna be probabilities. And worse than that, um, it, when you get into the whole probability thing with quantum physics, it gets really strange because then there's also, [00:26:00] um, cer certain things.

You, if you know something, then you can't know something else. And so whole thing gets really strange. But you can see quickly that we are in a whole different territory now. And so all of the working interpretations to explain quantum physics, and there are a lot of them, I don't get into all of them in reality shifts, but I, I touch on some.

And so we're looking at things like, um, you know, the many worlds interpretation, holographic interpretation, I'm, I'm zipping through these, the Copenhagen Collapse of the Wave function interpretation. And see, these are some of the big ones I like. Also, the transactional interpretation, the handshake between the future and the past.

I think that's super cool. And, um, anyway, these are different ways to look at and to explain why is it possible that. That matters. Not all, all that matters that you can have quantum physics experiments that prove that things are happening and they're not measurable. I mean, that's definitely happening.

There definitely is a [00:27:00] non-local, what Einstein called spooky action at a distance. There's a problem with objectivity that's massive. Um, I've written a co-authored a paper on it with physicist George Weissman and the, you can see, find that on my website, reality shifters. And then the, the thing about probability, um, there's all probabilities.

And so then we get into all sorts of interesting sta statistical types of quantum interpretations involving things like quantum ba, I can't pronounce it. Ba it's um, ba. So it's just looking at the way things aren't totally statistically proven and they're probabilistic instead. So that's the territory we're looking at.

That's what happened when we bring in the science of the very, very small quantum particles. Quanta just means it meant indivisible originally, like a photon of light. That's in contrast, of course, with the relativistic universe of this solar system and the galaxies and the 

Kara Goodwin: universe, the cosmos. Hmm. [00:28:00] Well, thank you.

And so what's interesting, you know, you, I have learned some amazing science from you and from your books. I have the feeling that you also, I mean I know that you are, you've said it, you know as we've been talking, the importance of the spiritual aspect. So you have this great way of bridging to try to help us understand, okay, here's where science is and here is how it blends with what we know from a spiritual and what people are experiencing from a spiritual perspective.

I'm curious if there's anything you wanna share from your own perspective on the spiritual side when you start getting into like the invisible realm, your helpers, what, what you see kind of beyond the material sense. I mean, you have such like amazing stories in your books. Do you have any kind of perception of invisible [00:29:00] hands?

That are helping 

Cynthia Larson: Oh, yes. Recently even. Oh, yeah. And it blows my mind when it happens. Yes. Um, you, I'll give, tell this story 'cause I brought it up. I've got a very ancient heavy bicycle. It's a 10 speed from back when a 10 speed was a big deal. In other words, it's a 1970s bicycle. Oh wow. It, it, it weighs like a tank compared to these new bikes.

And I've not gotten any younger and I've not gotten much stronger. My daughter had taken the bike down, it was hanging from some hooks on the ceiling in the garage, and she, um, like with her Amazonian strength, hoisted it down and it was quite a struggle. But she did it and I helped her with it. And, and she cleaned it all up and it was great.

And, and so anyway, long story short, I thought, okay, I should ride this bike before I need to put it back on the, on the, um, ceiling against the. And I did, I rode it around just a little bit in the street. Noticed a few more things that need adjustment, but didn't do that. But anyway, okay, here's the important part.

Now it's time for me to hang the bike up. And I'm thinking, who am I kidding? [00:30:00] You know, I took, like me helping my daughter who's much younger and stronger at this moment, you know, she's really able to get that thing, um, you know, up and down. I thought, well, this is a two person job and this garage is crowded and I don't see how I'm gonna do that.

But there's this little, okay. I am in direct connection with my, what you would call. Guidance, higher level, um, encouragement, inspiration, ideas. And that part of me is like, ah, you got this. And I'm like, really? I don't see how, and they're like, just flip it upside down and get it ready to put up there. So I flip, flip it upside down.

Well, somehow it seemed lighter than it should. It's now. I I I've started feeling like there's something weird here. 'cause the bike, I'm able to maneuver it and then when I try to lift it, I can to get it sort of, now it's sort of sitting on a pile of donatable items and huge bags and I'm like, okay, well it's on top of this mountain of bags.

Great. I still, it's nowhere near the hooks. But then, um, but, but this little voice in my head just kept giving advice. Yeah. I just took that wheel right there. You can just do that. And again, it was like light as a feather, like, and it went right on [00:31:00] there. Which believe me, that is not normal because this is a spinning wheel and there's a little hook that just, you know how these things work.

Yeah. They don't want, nothing. Usually wants to cooperate. It's almost like something just grabbed it. Talk about little hands. Exactly. It's like suddenly it's on there. Like, well that went amazingly well, but the other part's even heavier. I don't know why I did this part first. I'm on the, the back end of this dinosaur bike.

It's like, oh my gosh. And now I'm dealing with an even more crowded part of the garage and my voices are like, no problem, just go around over there. You've got this. And I'm like, I don't see how, but, but I do kind of think, how good can it get? Like this is ridiculous. Now I'm in an awkward position. I'm not even standing straight up.

I have to lean over the mountain of bags. And I thought, this is gonna not go well. And this is the heavy end of the bike. What was I thinking? But again, it is like, it's a, I just give it a little push and it's like something's lifting it for me, guiding it onto the hook and it's just right there. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

Wow. And thank you. So yeah, [00:32:00] I do experience that and I do give thanks. And if you wonder, what is that? Um, I think we have a lot of help. I think that there. Higher levels of ourselves. I think we have very helpful others that are very higher dimensional as well. I think for them, if you wonder, what do I mean by higher dimensional?

It's like they can see into our world with no problem. And there's an illustration in the book, reality shifts with a rose going through a piece of paper. I've got a napkin here, so if it's this little piece of paper and do I have a pen? That would be, oh, do, okay, pretend this is the rose in the book. And so if the rose is going through the page and, and if I'm a resident on flatland the paper, I just see like, okay, there's nothing there.

And like, whoa, something just showed up. It's a circle. It's getting bigger. It's a hexagon. Now it's got some other weird blue shape. Now it's a circle. Now it's gone. You know? And if it's a rose, it's like, what happened here? So. If you think about higher dimensional consciousness, and I do touch on that a little bit.

In reality shifts, I talk about these levels of [00:33:00] conscious awareness. Um, if I do another book, it's gonna need to be about this very topic because this is perhaps the most important way to actually understand mind matter interaction, who we really are, who are these so-called others, and how do we recognize them?

Um, because once you start interacting with them, how do you kind of get your bearings? And this is, I think, going to be increasingly important for all of us as we become more increasingly more telepathic. So we we'll be more directly interconnected with one another. When that starts happening, then you want to know, was this my thought or is this Kara's thought?

You know, am I, is, is this a call for help or is she ch cheering me on? You know, is this information what's happening? And so learning to listen to that is important. But I do work one-on-one with clients in some of these areas and usually with people who are very gifted already. 

Kara Goodwin: And then they just wanted to explore it further.

That's so beautiful. It makes me think too, like as you're describing the rows going through flatland, [00:34:00] when we see like a spark, you know, in our peripheral vision or, you know, you just see like for a moment and it's, and you're so sure you saw something, but then it's just there and gone before you have any cognition of really what it is.

But do you think that that's like a, an expression of that? 

Cynthia Larson: Oh, yes. And sometimes we've got, it's like an agreement and we'll get communication different ways. Sometimes in dreams, daydreams signs, synchronicities, the flash you described. And sometimes we'll get multiple, like, it's almost like the paparazzi, like flash.

Flash. Like, oh, they're happy about this. Because for me that means like they're here and they're happy. They're like, 

Kara Goodwin: yes. That's awesome. And when you like look at the sky and they're all the, the sparkles and the sky like all at once, but they're just happening like popcorn almost. Like, but, but sparkles, you know?

And Oh yeah. So, yeah. So do you, do you feel that with your kundalini awakening, does that feel to you like a, a higher demi? I mean, I mean you talked about the [00:35:00] energy that was coming online kind of thing, but do you feel that like a higher dimensional aspect of you is taking residence? That's a 

Cynthia Larson: great way 

Kara Goodwin: to put it.

I, 

Cynthia Larson: there is an intelligence too, that Kundalini energy for sure. And I've been able to help other people who are going through Kundalini's. Um, if you wanna know what that's like, I, I do occasionally talk about this on interviews and I'll just make it quick in case people have heard me say it before. Um, but it's interesting, um, like, um, because I went through my Kundalini awakening and I know what the intensity of the energy feels like and the importance of keeping the energy centers, the chakras clear, like the throat.

Well that's a choke point for a lot of people where they're not used to saying much and it, it needs to be wide open and fully functioning when you've got that much energy that feels like you could power a small city running through the energy core of your being, like from the top of your head all the way through and your whole body.

It's phenomenal. A lot of energy. It's just. It was keeping me awake at night for a couple of weeks when it was happening for me. But sometimes [00:36:00] I'll just inexplicably, um, I've had the experience where I'll just be guided to sit down and meditate for like a half an hour to an hour, be perfectly balanced, centered, calm, grounded, and I don't know what I'm doing there.

It's just feels like good, good idea to do this. And then the phone rings, and I never do this usually, but then I'll just be like, okay, pick up and it's a landline phone. Pick it up, unlisted phone number. And then someone, three times this happened and it, someone just started talking like, like, I'm burning up.

It's so hot. And, and just, and I'm right there with the person. Like, it's okay. This is a kundalini. I can see where the energy stuck. Just stay calm, breathe with me and we'll clear it in. So to me it was just remarkable. I think that was, it was not so much for me to be helping. I guess I was helping. I'm sure I was.

But the bigger message for me is look at what the Kundalini energy can do. It can guide me, be in this place at this time, meditate, get grounded when the phone rings, pick it up. It gave that other person my unlisted phone number, and then they just start talking. Um, like, okay. And they know, like [00:37:00] they don't have to explain anything.

They're going through. Kundalini also, this is the most interesting aspect of the experience, I think is just the, that's what I mean when I say this is intelligent energy. And so it is at these higher levels of who I am and who this other person is. They already know, like she wish Cynthia wishes the best for all concern.

Here's her phone number, call her right now, she's ready. They know. And that's indeed true because I was guided to be there in advance. And it's playing with time. It had me totally ready, relaxed, perfectly focused, clear. That happened three times. Now I do ask for these things to come to me in threes.

'cause then I, I don't want to think it's a one-off weirdness. And so when it's orchestrated like this, that's how I trust it. And for me, this is an indicator that this is from the highest levels and it's friend, you know, this is what you might call angels god, the absolute, rather than some sort of trickery.

Like people might say, well how do you know it's not some deep state secret. It's [00:38:00] not, you know, there's no way they have anything like this. This is what I look for in, in the true guidance, like in addition to the true flashes, the true synchronicity, the true, um, everything. So it's so much more than even, and I'm aware that our secret governments have lots of stolen technologies.

Great. But it's nothing like what the real. Possibilities are, there's so much greater, and so that's the good news. Also, like there's so much good news here. It's like, okay, that's intelligent energy. It's working with all of us. It's guiding us. You're never going to be alone, even if you think you're alone when you get that much energy and guidance coming through.

And believe me, right now, all of us are. So this book, reality Shifts was written a long time ago, but now there's this great awakening happening. And so what I went through is what most of us are now starting to go through individually, and you're not alone and you're very loved and people are there for you, cheering you on even from, you know, you might even not see them, but it's like these little light sparkles [00:39:00] and flashes that we're talking about.

You feel it too, right, Kara? Oh, it's just so, oh, it's so beautiful. 

Kara Goodwin: And I love where you took that too with in terms of, you know, whether it's steep state or however we look at it in these, this day and age as people are awakening, one of the things that we can bump up, bump up against is, um, information about this, this physical plane that's shocking in terms of the deep state or what our food is doing to us now.

You know, now that it's been so modified and or you know, what's happening with the skies or all of these different things. And the more you learn, the more it can feel like the deck is stacked against you. And so when you talk about the intelligence of the, of consciousness of who we are, how do you juxtapose that against what it feels like we're up against in terms of the attempts to shut that off?[00:40:00] 

Cynthia Larson: Yeah. Well, we need a challenge actually. So I mentioned the butterfly and the chrysalis metaphor earlier. 'cause I felt like I was trying to put, pull the chrysalis back and hug it like back inside.

And I think sometimes when we look at the news, like what you're talking about and the food and everything, it can be shocking for sure. But that shock is part of our awakening. It's part of the chrysalis coming off. Mm-hmm. And, and then those wet wings that don't know how to fly yet. That's, and we don't know who we are.

And, and the whole thing sounds weird and we're wondering why am I listening to this podcast with Kara and Cynthia? You know, what are they talking about? But, um, you can start trusting this internal guidance system that each of us is intrinsically part of that we're born into, that we're the, we're the little sparks of light.

Those little flashes are like us. That's who we are. And that's what we look like to other beings who see us with so much love. And so. This crisis is part of our birth [00:41:00] process, including the poisoning and the toxicity of the, the water and the air and the food and the planet. And I don't need to go into all that.

Obviously there have been some problems here, and we don't need to point fingers either, because that's all just drama. As soon as we feel like, uh, like I'm a victim and I've been poisoned, which I could easily say I've been through long haul COVID, but I don't need to go there. That's not really the winning perspective.

Far better for me to, uh, kind of just be, still get into a state of when I'm still recognize there's movement happening, that I'm not totally still and in, I'm not static, I'm ecstatic. I am moving out of the stasis and there's a flow going. So I'm, I'm in, I start with freezing and then I move into flow.

And that's beyond the fight or the flight. So I'm, I'm getting into a state of dynamic. Um, it's like the yin yang symbol, which looks like the circle with the two. Um. Two little looks like water drops or something. One's light and one's dark. The dark one has a [00:42:00] light circle. The light one has a dark circle, so it represents, um, the one becomes two becomes the many, and it shows the flow that happens when you start with that stasis.

From the nothingness comes everything. So it's a very embracing concept that's very deep and resonant that we recognize. We see it in a symbol like, oh, I think I get it. So therefore we can look at all these dark things and say like, okay, and we can be told even like, don't mess with that's new age stuff or don't meditate or whatever.

Um, but the thing is that's like saying don't breathe. Um, meditation is part of who we are. Mind matter interaction is our birthright and that's also who we are. Uh, we also are interdimensional beings, so connecting with all that we are is also part of who we are. And it's important, especially at this time, to become clearer than ever before about the truth of who we are, what we're doing here, and how we all fit in.

And I'm not saying I have all the answers, I'm [00:43:00] just suggesting that this journey of looking into reality shifts is part of it. And I think that we, we each get different answers based on where we are in our progression of learning and growth. Um, you know, an infant soul is gonna see things differently than a baby soul, than a young soul, than a mature soul, than an old soul.

At each level, we'll have different concerns, but at each level we'll have the ability to not be afraid. We can say, Hey, I'm not gonna be bullied. I'm not gonna be scared. I'm going to not go into fight, not go into flight. I'm just gonna be still. And then from that stillness, I'll trust that the flow will begin.

If my spirit's here, which I know it is, anybody watching and listening knows, you know, you can feel it and you'll start to feel it. So just go into the stillness, trust the process, and you'll feel there's inspiration here. I'm feeling something, I'm feeling a sense of hope and love. And maybe it's that whole, how good could it get thing?

Even when I'm [00:44:00] looking at what looks like disaster and impossible challenges, even atrocities, it's just like, okay, that's just illusion. It's like a bad dream. And it's okay to say no more bad dreams. We're just gonna find out how good can it get for all of us. And it doesn't have to make logical sense. It probably won't because this is way outside of linear logic and it's not constrained even by our 3D, FaceTime 3D uh, space and a fourth of time.

It's far beyond that and it's much bigger, and that is who we are. And I think that's what this is really 

Kara Goodwin: about. Hmm. That's beautiful. Thank you. You made me, there was a lot of reference there to the balance and it made me think about something that ha that developed later in my meditation practice. But it is this sense of the it within the brain really holding a balance of like the weight of the energy on both sides simultaneously.

And I feel [00:45:00] like in my meditations for a long time, it was one or the other. Like either I was really on in the left brain of like, okay, what's next? Okay, now I've done my breath work, now what do I do? You know, what's the next part? Um, or I was like, really in the right brain really letting the, the creativity kind of carry me.

But I, and then I kind of graduated maybe, or, you know, it changed, let's just say it changed, and it, it's like this e like a perceptible, palpable, equal weight kind of happening in the left and right brain. At the same time, there's also a, a sense of like many con, many points within the brain being activated at the, like, simultaneously, you know, like, almost like you could put like a, a finger, you know, if you could stick your finger all the way in the brain and it'd be like, okay, here's one spot that's be, you're just holding like one spot and then here's another spot that another finger is holding [00:46:00] and it's kind of all happening at the same time.

Do you, does this sound familiar to you? Have you, has that been part of your evolution as well? Yeah, that's a good point. Um, 

Cynthia Larson: well that's, yeah. Early in life I was very, um, what you might call, um. It's hard to even give it a word. It's not so much left brain or right brain. I was kind of in a wide open state.

I was sort of remembering what it was like be before I was born. So I was in this very well that's very provocative before you were born. Wow. Yeah. 'cause it, it's, um, yeah, that's, I I it was a bliss state. I wanted to go back to it, so I haven't really talked, uh, with you much about that. So it was, it's a feeling of being born aware.

And I contributed a chapter to Diane Brandon's book by that title, born Aware. It's a phenomenon. It's, it's sort of like a lot of people go through this and they, they have a almost a nostalgia or aching with missing that before you were born kind of a feeling. So when I read that book full of stories of that, it's feels like, ah, I'm just bask.

It's [00:47:00] like being in heaven again. It's like, not that their lives are that perfect. In fact, sometimes they're very difficult lives. Uh, my chapter was, whoops, wrong Planet, because I felt like there'd been a terrible mistake. 

Kara Goodwin: I think a lot of people can relate to that. 

Cynthia Larson: I, thanks. Well, I just felt like this's been a terrible mix up.

This can't be right. No, no offense to my wonderful parents. It's not like that. It was just, um, clearly that because I, I still had, um, PTSD from a previous life that I hadn't quite recovered from. And I, I wanted to really bask in the heavenly InBetween phase that, you know, it felt like it got cut short and worst of all, I still remember the trauma from the past life in the future.

'cause it was a dystopian nightmare, future, 540 years or so before I was born and with central AI running things. And I, and I was being hunted by central ai. So as a small child, of course I wanted to be dead again. Um, it's [00:48:00] not that I was suicidal because it was a hor it's, it's not like that. It was just.

Look, I'm talking to angels and saying, look, I, I, I think there's been a mix up. I really wanna be resting again. I love just being able to feel all the love and the goodness with the angels and at the absolute ready to go back to that, please. You know, and, and there was this sort of an angelic intervention.

Time slowed down to a stop, and I was surrounded by glowing lights. And these beings were telling me, number one, you'll, it'll really bum out your parents, and people are never gonna get over it. And I thought, they'll get over it. I, I was five years old in my defense at the time. I know it sounds horrible.

Uh, number two, they said, what about all the people you'll help? They'll find someone else. Another flippant remark from a 5-year-old, but they got me on number three, and I think they knew they would. Um, you chose to be here, you'll be back, but that's not the worst of it. You're gonna lose this five year headstart.

I was like, no. I was like, I chose to be here. I don't remember that I [00:49:00] did really like, huh? Like I'll lose my five year head start. That was the unacceptable part. And then I, so I was like, okay. Then I chose, I was calling it, I was five. So to me, staying here was slow living a slow long life. Instead of a fast short one, I was just like, fast or slow.

Like, I want a fast life. And they're like, no, let's just look. Here are the, hear us out here. Listen to these factors. And I, and I, I was demanding. Then I was like, okay, well I'll be here. But it's like, you guys have to be here too. You can't all just be out there where I never see you. I need to see you down here too.

And I need to stay in touch with that kind of feeling of heaven. So I, they, I think I did keep both of those. I, I've kept that one foot in heaven perspective. I. The PTSD thing did finally clear up in October, 2020 when I worked with a couple of other shaman to sort of shake all the timelines loose from my specific nightmare dystopian past life [00:50:00] in the future where a central AI had been hunting me all through my entire life up till 2010.

That was decades of being hunted by a high level, uh, artificial general intelligence roaming through space and time and looking. So 

Kara Goodwin: it was So this artificial a, this AI was hunting you in this life from Yes. Your previous life. And was that previous life on an earth Possible timeline? 

Cynthia Larson: Yeah. Uh, yeah. It'd be like 500 now.

It's about 500 years from now, be circa 2,500. Um, I was living on the California coastline, had not fallen into the ocean. Monterey was still there 500 years from now, so I've seen a possible future. Um, in that future, AI took the credit for a lot of the balancing of the nature. Um, I think I felt like I went there as an observer and my take on the situation was things could definitely be done better and I, I would give it a fail.

So, um, because there was one pure [00:51:00] human there that was, I, I was going to see like, are there any pure humans left? There was one and I saw her, she was there in Monterey. Um, beautiful woman at that point, 500 years from now, the average life expectancy, she would not do the modifications and the Transhuman stuff.

So her life expectancy could easily be 150 to 180 years if they, she did all the modifications. It goes a little over 200 years. Um, so I'm expecting that in this lifetime. I have a high expectations for what's possible right now. 'cause I know that we have a lot more than what people talk about. Um, wow.

But anyway, that's a, just a. Little side note. Yeah. But so she, she was a wonderful person, but all the other people, because of, they'd been, um, kind of, I don't know what to call it. They, well, we call it Transhuman Unified, you know, they'd been modified. They, they called it upgraded in that future. It's like, you know, you can get an upgrade, but they, people started turning into basically like partially [00:52:00] robots.

Um, so everybody else was either partially robot or entirely robotic. And that may be, it sounds fine, but it's not really fine. Here's the problem in my, if you wonder, why would I give it a fail as an observer, I. Because, uh, the humans, she, you know, she, she was not being, um, affected too badly. I mean, it was a difficult life when you're the only one who's left.

That's hard right there. Um, but everybody else was able to, was, um. If they, if their thoughts roamed into an off-topic area, which central AI would detect with a number of different methods, then they would get like a small electromagnetic pulse that would be a short-term memory wipe, which had the result that it's kind of like, like you start thinking, I wonder if there is a, a power supply for the central ai.

You know, like, wrong question. And then you come back out of it like, what was I doing? I was like, why am I holding this milk? Why I dropped it. That was what happened, you know? And just constantly, and, and if you just have any thoughts, like, [00:53:00] um, I wonder what keeps all this running? I wonder if, you know, and you shouldn't, can't even think about that.

It, it did not. It was so self-protective, the central AI that if you start thinking like, what's running everything? How is it doing this? Um, those are not allowed thoughts. And the, and the. The d the um, the way it was executed, that's a bad to phrase. People weren't really killed, they weren't executed. But it was like the worst thing of all it, I think that, um, the lack of freedom to think and have the imagination goes wherever you want it to go, was gone.

Completely gone because the central AI was capable of knowing what, what any kind of thoughts that would be directed in its direction would be. It was operating at these levels of dimensional intel, um, agency that I'm talking about. I would love to write this for humans so that people know how to operate at, uh, um, levels of conscious agency so that you can stay above whatever level is trying to exert [00:54:00] control over humanity.

'cause that that's not cool. And, you know, that's all the non-human intelligences need to cooperate together with the human ones, whether it's plants and animals, extraterrestrials, ai, there should not be any of this. Um. Like any, any group should not think it's God and then it, it, it can, you know, controls all the rest.

That's not right in any way, shape, or form. I now, I am really going all over the place. 

Kara Goodwin: Well, no, this is critical because I think this is a huge, for me, this is foundational to ascension and I talk about this with, you know, on Yeah. On lives and things like that. Because I, in my opinion, sovereignty, freedom and liberation, that is the foundation.

If, if we want to ascend, that is what we're doing. We are, yes. Becoming free and we're not yet, you know, I mean we're, it just, that's the nature of it. So it is this freedom to, to really express ourselves as spirit. However, that. Whatever that means to us. It's not [00:55:00] gonna be the same. That's the whole point.

It's not gonna be the same for everybody, but the real freedom and, uh, you know, untangling our mind from inverted geometries that are, that are here, that we're, we, we are a part, they're a part of us just because we are here and we're participating. Um, but I'd so that potential dystopian timeline it from your lifetime here in this timeline, what do you see in terms of the, where humanity is right now, where it looks like we're going at the potential of that timeline versus of, you know, where we are fully liberated, where we do have sovereignty?

Cynthia Larson: Yeah. Well, I, I play an interesting role in all this, my. It's, it's kinda like I know what my role is. Um, and I've, I've been given a choice to, even in this lifetime, to um, veer off course and [00:56:00] give up. Being that radical optimist, I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna stay a radical optimist. I've been to the dark nights of soul, of my soul several times and I'm not gonna give up.

So for me, um, I'm not even entertaining a possibility of failure. Um, which may sound kind of strange. It's like, well, how can you? So there are no odds. There are no odds I'm locked onto. The only future that I consider viable is one in which humanity finds a way to find peace, to rise above this all the, I know it sounds impossible, right?

It sounds like how Pollyanna can you get, but I have to do it this way. And I've had direct experience with, um, very large scale mind matter interactions of a fail safe nature with, um, destructive cataclysmic events on earth where I've been called in like, and, and been asked by mind guides, is this okay?

And then I get the opportunity. In those cases, I say no, whether it's an earthquake or a nuclear thing. And then I get in, um, guided, like I can be [00:57:00] part of changing that. And this is exactly the sort of thing we're witnessing UFOs doing too. So it's like what I'm getting firsthand experience with. Um, and then I notice, hey, this is what UFOs do.

They've. They've taken the nuclear capability off of something and now it can't do what it was thinking it was going to do. Well, I don't know. I, I think I've heard about something like that. Um, I, I, I've been involved personally with moving an earthquake, um, to a different location, um, in advance. And then I get con confirmation later, like, um, that was an Alaskan earthquake that got deflected out toward the ocean.

So I've seen this sort of thing happen, um, by being called into it. And the reason I mention that, that goes back to your question, what are the odds? They're not gonna be any odds. It's gonna be radical optimism. I'm just locked onto how good can it get? It has to be, how good can it get for all concerned?

And I'm not going anywhere else. And it doesn't matter what happens to me personally. I mean, I, I just have a complete, [00:58:00] um, complete full dedication to that. And I think that's necessary. And, and I feel like when I feel that, um, and it's in my, we have different brains in our body, the brain and the head, the brain and the heart, the cardiac.

We've got a brain in our gut, and so I've got a complete alignment with all those so-called brains. Mm-hmm. They are brains. And then also all the chakras. If you're wondering, how do I do this? It's just a complete alignment. There's no, nothing's out of alignment. And it goes all the way up to the highest levels of myself.

There's no doubt, there's no, you know, we talked about the collapse or that depression. It's just all, it's just reinforcement, reinforcement, reinforcement, reinforcement. And I've got a complete column of light, of complete agreement. This is what I need to see. And then it's making it so, so, so I can't see anything other than, you know, a perfect path forward.

I feel like the only reason I investigated that past life in the future was because it was very popular and I, all my life up until now, I thought that was crazy. Now I'm seeing [00:59:00] people. I don't know why, but there's smitten with transhumanism, smitten with Neuralink and ai. And AI is okay, but it's not gonna be a God to us and it should never be playing that role.

Kara Goodwin: Right. Wow. Well, I mean, thank you so much for that service that you're providing. You know, it, it's, it is interesting how as you evolve as a person and as you own your. Consciousness more and you bring more of yourself in, the responsibility does get bigger and the opportunities do get bigger. So what you're talking about for, I'm telling, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but I haven't really touched on this in the podcast before.

But for listeners, you know, as we go through our evolution and we do bring more of this high vibrational, higher dimensional aspects into the body, we do get the, the opportunity and the responsibility to affect [01:00:00] change to a greater degree. , So thank you so much because it is so important that we do have these huge beacons of light who are taking their dedication, you know, their, their, um, their mission so seriously, and that is a really big mission, and it's really important and critical for where we are now.

I, I was just reflecting, I think it was this morning or yesterday where I was like. I wish I could go to a checkout and be like, um, I'm gonna take, um, a thousand Cynthia Sue Larsons, please. Can I get a thousand of those? Like, can you just, do you have a, are they on back order or how can we just get more of this on this planet?

So, 

Cynthia Larson: oh, 

Kara Goodwin: so sweet. I think you're, you're doing everything you can to bring as much Cynthia Sue Larson as you can in this one incarnation so that we don't need a thousand of them. Very funny. [01:01:00] Oh, well, you know, this has just been, this conversation went way beyond even what I had dreamed that it would be. I thank you so much for being here.

Please tell people how they can find out more about you. Find your books, and I know you've got some personal, or, you know, some events coming up too. Yes. 

Cynthia Larson: The best way is through my website, which is reality shifters.com. And you, uh, through there you can see I've got a newsletter. Excuse me, I've got a newsletter and it's also on Substack, so you can find it there if you're already on substack.

I have a YouTube channel. I'm on Facebook and X, which used to be Twitter and Instagram. So I'm in lots of places, but I think the best is reality shifters.com. Definitely sign up for the newsletter. It's just one email a month. And that would include, um, interviews such as this one, firsthand reports from people around the world experiencing these reality shifts.

And my little [01:02:00] conversation with them back and forth. 'cause I do, um, curate these, uh, firsthand reports. I like to ask, what were you thinking? What were you feeling? What had happened? And as, as well as occasionally a book review might be there. And then my thoughts currently, like this last newsletter was about dimensional consciousness and how there's a mathematical model proving that humans have 11 dimensions of thought when we think ideas.

And that research just came outta Switzerland. So, and my visit to a, a horse ranch where humans are conversing with animals and learning about these, these, um. It's very interesting. You've got this field of information around you and the way you see the world. So does the horse. And you can start, when you allow yourself to feel what the horse is feeling about you, then an amazing experience begins.

So these, I just share what I'm thinking about. And so it's a fun way to stay current. And so it's reality shifters.com would be the best. And oh, and the event, yes, there is going to be one thing that I'll be doing this year in 2025. That'll be August [01:03:00] 22nd through the 24th in Creststone, Colorado with, um, Paula Harris.

And she's the, um, she's um, an Italian American. She, uh, was born and raised in Rome, Italy, and she's a UFO researcher and an experiencer and also with, uh, Julian Shamroy, and he's from Paris, France. He writes his books mostly in Japanese. He's an experiencer. So the three of us are very international focused on oneness consciousness, and it'll be a retreat weekend with.

A couple of nights of CE five, um, that's close. Encounters are the fifth kind. Um, in this 14,000 foot elevation, like the Himalayas of the United States Suite, special spiritual environment of Cresto, Colorado, and the information, there's a link on my website, reality shifters.com to that event. You can click and find out more.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Well, thank you again so much, Cynthia. Thank you for being here. And sincerely, thank you [01:04:00] for everything that you're doing in this life on behalf of humanity. 

Cynthia Larson: No, thank you, Kara. Thank you. 

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