Medical Intuition and Energetic Healing - Peggy Oberthier

Peggy Oberthier

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Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding your ascension to new heights. I'm your host, Cara Goodwin. And this episode with Peggy Oberther is fantastic, and I'm so excited for you to hear it. We talk about her fascinating journey into being a medical intuitive, which actually begins with her being in a prison riot, you're going to love hearing about how she feels her client's ailments and releases them.

And we also talk about the witch wound and the role of karma in healing. So you're going to get so much from this episode. Peggy Obertheer is an intuitive healer in Australia who uses her intuitive abilities to help clients move stuck energy in the body. She recognizes the mind body connection and that blocked emotions can result in physical manifestations, including pain and illness.

 Using her [00:01:00] compassionate heart-centered counseling skills and her unique intuitive gifts, she carefully tunes into what's happening at the emotional and metaphysical level to help guide her clients through releasing what no longer serves them.

So we'll dive in in just a moment. But first, my book, your Authentic Awakening is out now. Peggy is one of the early readers of the book, and you can go to my episode on her podcast where she raves about how much she loves it and how supportive it is for the spiritual journey. I'll put the link to that episode in the show notes, but this book is designed to help you reach new heights of spiritual awakening with spiritual guidance, practical tools, and captivating personal stories.

All working together to expand your consciousness and open your heart. Find out more information on KaraGoodwin. com forward slash book, including how to get your own signed copy, or you can get it wherever you like to get your books. And [00:02:00] now enjoy this episode.

Kara Goodwin: Well, welcome Peggy. I'm so excited to talk to you Today. We've been doing a lot of emailing back and forth and I feel like I've gotten to know you and I've watched some of your podcasts and, uh, and I've been really looking forward to this.

So thanks so much for being here. We

Peggy Oberthier: Oh, thank you so much for having, having me. I'm really honored to be here. And yes, it took a little while with the different time zones, but we're here so it's good. persevered. Yes, we did. in Australia and I'm in America And we have quite the time difference, probably about the worst time difference that you can have. so the fact that it synced up because we were starting to look out, you know, like, Yeah. Two or three months ahead of time. were let's just put a pin in this.

Kara Goodwin: And then something came up, which was wonderful. 

Peggy Oberthier: Perfect. 

Kara Goodwin: medical intuitive, 

Peggy Oberthier: I. 

Kara Goodwin: and I would love to know how you, how you came to this. Have you always had these sorts of abilities or have they come to you over time? 

Peggy Oberthier: is quite an interesting story because I started off, um, as a complete atheist, [00:03:00] uh, well, I shouldn't say I was a good Catholic girl, brought up, you know, in a good Catholic family. And then through my university studies, you know, I just, I guess I was influenced by a lot of my professors and I went into, I studied politics and history and religion, and I, I just thought, no.

It's, you know, I can't decide which God is the right one. I think they've all just made it up and, and there's too much suffering in the world, and why would there be so much suffering, and why would a God allow that? So I kind of stuck with that for a little while, and I became a secondary teacher, and then I moved into the sort of, uh, mental health space.

So I, I trained as a counselor. Uh, working in a school as a counselor. Um, and then I got a job in a prison and I worked with, yeah, so I worked in a juvenile detention center for about five years. Um, and in there were so many different characters who worked there. I mean, you can imagine the kind of trauma saturated environment and what kind of people get attracted to that role.

I met this guy, uh, one of my colleagues and he at work drinks. He was telling me about his near death experience. And you know, up until this point I'd always [00:04:00] heard these stories and I thought, yeah, okay, you guys are all a bit, you know? Sure. Okay. Go to the light. Everyone's, you know, it's this sort of, but his story was so real and I knew that he was right and my, the, the hair in my arm stood up.

I was just, my jaws on tape. I was just. This, it just planted a seed of there is something, right? And so then I went down this rabbit hole and that was, I was 44 at the time, so this was 11 years ago. And I just started to dabble in, I wanted scientific proof of the existence of the afterlife of the quantum field.

So I really, I dove into the Joe Dispenza stuff, the Dr. Bruce Lipton, anybody with a PhD or, or a doctor behind their, a psychiatrist, a psychologist, speaking about past lives. I was like, they're, these are scientific people and they are describing, you know, things in the cosmic consciousness or the unity consciousness or the quantum field, or however you wanna describe it.

So I thought they had credibility and they weren't woowoo. Um, so this, it had to [00:05:00] be true. I. And then fast forward, I got caught up in a riot at the prison. It just, the whole thing exploded. And yeah, so no, it was pretty horrific. And I, um, I had, you know, window shattered all over me. I had to hide in a closet.

It was really traumatic because I could see. Where it was heading, and this was where my clairvoyance and my cla cognizance was. Now I look back and I could see, um, you know, I could see that, that things were really, that the whole system was flawed. We were a school working in the prison, and then it was run by the state.

Um. The state system, and it just was, it was imploding in terms of the structures and, um, the boys were getting locked down so often anyway, and it just exploded and it just put me into a, a serious crisis. But up until that point, I'd also had a fractured coxes. I was in a lot of pain, I'd fracture my tailbone.

And um, you know, you just keep going as a mom and you, and like, and I had all these [00:06:00] gastrointestinal issues, you know, insomnia. Um. Chronic inflammation and pain and joints and things and all these things. And I knew, I knew I was physically getting broken. Um, and then all of a sudden I was like mentally, emotionally, and I guess spiritually just at a really low point.

I started to seek out alternative, you know, um, I saw a psychic and she just knew everything. And I thought, how is that possible? And then, you know, and then, so that just, I went into the, the alternative treatment realm as, as well as the traditional route to try to fix, heal my gut. And, but in that. Path I discovered meditation and I, I really, it really resonated with me.

Um, I started studying Vedic meditation. You know, the mantra just brought me to this, you know, this blue state, which I was, you know, almost addicted to. And I did a couple of retreats with Guy Lawrence who, um. His, um, this is an Australian based, um, [00:07:00] he has a podcast and, and amazing retreats. And those retreats were just like that fast track of the shedding of the layers that were just there, all that.

So I had my first few mystical experiences in those, you know, altered states through sound healing and um, and meditation. And then I just kept exploring and I was doing chakra, past life regression, cranial sacral, all of it. So I'd explored it all and, and more and more I started to really tap into, I guess this bliss and void.

And then I listened to somebody talk about automatic writing. And after one of my meditations, I just started writing, oh gosh, this is a lot coming out. Um, and so I knew that there was something, but it kind of scared me 'cause I was like, well, that's not my voice. How, how, you know? So I, I, I squashed it down.

Meantime, I knew that there was something else for me outside of the school system of working as a counselor. Um, and I didn't know what it was, and [00:08:00] I kept. I did. You named the webinar. I did it right. I, I read the book, I listened to the podcast. I had studied EFT tapping, which I really enjoyed as a, as a modality of working with the, the nervous system to help kids really calm down and process and emotion.

And I could see that sense of the emotion was stuck in the body. Um, and when I was working with the kids, I, I had a very strong intuition of what, where the emotion was stuck. I said, was it in your stomach? They go, yes. So I guess my intuition was always there, but I, I didn't, I just thought, oh, I have a really good sense of logic.

Um, and then I listened to a podcast as you do, um, this, um, amazing French, um, medical intuitive called Patrice Chris, and his story blew me away. I booked a session with him. And it was three hours. Um, and I was really just curious about how I could help heal my knee pain. 'cause I'd been doing all the Joe Dispenza, like, oh, [00:09:00] heal, you know, imagining my knee better.

I really wanted to run again and I'd had sort of like, it was bone on bone. And, um, so when I, it had my session with Patrice, um. He, it was so mystical and magical, like, you know, it, I, it was so incredible. It was almost three hours, and at about the two hour mark, he just said, you know, um, you're a medical intuitive like me.

I said, what? He said, oh yeah, you've got all the gifts. I said Are what? And he said, yeah, okay. Let's practice. So, um, you know, we, we, we tuned into some, I did, I tuned into a body and he said, oh yeah, you can remove things. You can, you're a very powerful ter. We've just un unlocked your chakra. We've got rid of your past lives associated with persecution.

So with your witch wound. Yeah. You're good to go. And would you like to send me a photograph and I'll put you on my medical intuitive directory and I would like to send you clients. So I was, I know he, so he's All [00:10:00] was Yes. Yes. They said, and I said, what? 

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Peggy Oberthier: sort of said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Patrice.

I said, hang on You know, if you meet him, you know, he's a very, um. He's just a no-nonsense guy. He, he, yeah, he's very direct. Um, he's not from this. world. He's from the void. He's not even from any planet. He is like, he's completely, um, yeah, he's from a different planet and he's, he just doesn't, he doesn't procrastinate like he just says, right.

Well, I, you know, when can you send me the photograph? And meanwhile, I'm, I know I've got, I've got clients in Australia I wanna send to you. And I said, okay, Patrice. Whoa, whoa. So anyway, I said, Patrice, look, I. In my heart, I knew it was completely correct and my head was going, this is crazy. And so with my, with my intuition, mine came through as clear cognizance and it was a very strong knowing.

And I get like visuals, but they're in my head. Right? So it's sort of like this clairvoyance that's. Not that 3D clairvoyance. So you are [00:11:00] constantly going, am I making this up? Like, is this actually, you know, is this a, is this a thing? So I said to Patrice, I said, no, you, you, I, you need to mentor me. He said, oh, no, no, no.

I'm not gonna mentor. Oh, everyone keeps telling me to mentor. Everyone keeps telling I need to be a mentor. I said, oh no, you've got the structured wrong. And then he asked me if I had a message for him and I just, it just came through as a channeling. And I said, well, you. This is the structure of your mentorship.

So he didn't wanna do traditional, you know, lesson plans. It, it's all channeled, it's all intuitive. So within, I guess, um, about six weeks, or it would've been eight weeks, he, he, he ran a mentorship and it was just basically thrown in with you bring in a client and the five people or six of us would just work on the client and he would just give us live feedback of what was happening.

And, and that's basically my was, um, and I, I just learned, so within a week of, after my call, he invited me on his, on his calls to join in on, on some of his sessions. And so I would, yeah, so [00:12:00] it was so cool. and by the time, and it was all free, like, you know, he, he's just so generous and he, he, his whole mission is really to create as many, you know, people that can help raise the vibration of the planet.

And we don't like to call ourselves healers. We're, you know, we like to say we're energy readers and I'm a trans mutter. That's how I like to describe it. So that's kind of it. Yeah. So yeah, a garbage truck. I guess that's the analogy. 

Kara Goodwin: not that one. You can, you can do better than that. Come on.

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. Yeah. So it's been, it's, it's been a whirlwind experience. So I, I, you know, I, I did both jobs for a while and then I fully just resigned. And I've been doing this full time now since, um, since December. And it's been amazing. Yeah. It's been, and after the very first session of going to, like, when he asked me to join a call, I just went to bed crying because I thought.

I finally had found the thing that I really, my soul wanted to do, and I'd seen people like on the Kasic records, and [00:13:00] I'd seen like, what am I supposed to do? And they were all so vague. And when somebody said to me, you're gonna be tapped on the shoulder, and it was literally just like that. So yeah. So that's my story. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh, thank you for sharing it. that is fantastic. and it makes me, I can feel the joy And like when you're saying 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh. 

Kara Goodwin: know, you were going to bed and you just felt this like, I can just feel this, like, it just locked in like this, you know? 'cause everybody wants to feel their purpose, you know, that they're 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: and what a gift that he just laid it out.

I mean. 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: And that makes me so happy for you.

Peggy Oberthier: Thank you. 

Kara Goodwin: us like what, if I were to say, like, what's your favorite story of working with a client, whether that was with Patrice or, you know, since December or whatever, but there, I'm sure you've 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh, 

Kara Goodwin: some great stories that really 

Peggy Oberthier: oh, look, there's, there's just so many. What, what I love is the, is the instant pain relief. And I, and like we, we [00:14:00] don't, we can't put anything like that on our, you know, you know, you know, medical disclaimer. We're not medical doctors. We don't, you know, we don't, we can't diagnose, we, we can't claim to do anything that we're, you know, but what I love is, is when somebody starts out as like.

You know, I've got this really bad pain in, or even two days ago, um, I had a session with the lady and, and what happens for me is that I get a mirrored symptom. So like I'll wake up and I'll go, oh, like I can feel this really bad pain in my hip. And I go, okay, my client at eight o'clock or nine o'clock has, has hip pain and, or I'll feel like an incredible tightness in my throat.

So straight away I'll just say, oh my God, my throat is, she said, oh, I woken up. And it was so sore. So, you, know, and so. Then the pain just goes away. That, that's the stuff that I love the, the most because, you know, chronic pain people don't have to be in pain. You know, it's like, well if the, if the, if the universe allows it, because, you know, there are some soul contracts where [00:15:00] people, you know, there's, they can go to so many different gurus and healers and maybe they're sole contract is that, that's just their lifetime that they signed up for.

You know? So we can't, you know, we can't, but the people that are. Um, are ready to release. Like that's the most incredible stuff where people are, you know, in serious pain. And then they just get up and they walk and they go, my pain's gone. And, and I've seen that in group sessions and in, in one-on-one. So that's, that's really, um, that's quite beautiful.

But what I love too is the release that people feel that emotional release of connecting back to themselves. Like it, it's hard to describe, but. Um, helping people tune into their, you know, those, those buried emotions and then they just feel lighter. You know, that's the, you know, it's, they just, oh, I just feel so light and I have, I have joy again.

And, and, and that just makes me feel like, okay, well that's, that's, you know, because then from there, those people then can [00:16:00] go back into their families and then they can emanate their joy. And then that's just has the spillover effect. Like that's the. That's what we're trying to do is like, you know, one person at a time will at the moment is just have them, you know, release whatever they need to release so that they can then engage in within the world and have, find their own joy.

That's, Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: I mean, I've seen that illustrated in the in some of my mystical experience, quantum experiences, I never know what I need to like land on how, what I want to call them. But, um, this one particular time it's, it's shown up a few different ways, but one was like, I could see my energy field as all these tiles. 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh. 

Kara Goodwin: tiles of light it was like around me, so it had like depth to it. Um, and I was, uh, you know, it was like before I fell asleep, so I was laying down, so it was kind of like above me and around me it started to go golden. And [00:17:00] I could see that like everybody that I was connected to, it wasn't a closed loop. It wasn't like all around me. It was like my section bled into everybody I'm connected with. But as I activated this golden light. It, it infiltrated and it just kept going out and it was like the 

Peggy Oberthier: Wow. 

Kara Goodwin: I was to somebody like the, and I think there's a mathematical thing that I couldn't get to that level, but I imagine there's like the fi, you know, or something, you know, 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh, the Fibonacci, the Fibonacci sequence, so yeah, yeah,

Kara Goodwin: Um, but sure there was like a mathematical structure where it was like, you know, my husband, for instance, who I'm around all the time every day. And even though 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: like into any of this stuff, but just by virtue of us being close, 

Peggy Oberthier: Mm-hmm. 

Kara Goodwin: it's not about me, like evangelizing to him.

It's like activating my own light, activating my, that golden divinity. 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: Then. It just [00:18:00] spreads. It just does it very naturally. And so that's exactly what you're talking about, where it's 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: activate it within ourselves. And so people, we all want to get over our like, well, I don't want to, you know, we don't want to be selfish.

We want to give to others. And yes, that's 

Peggy Oberthier: Mm. 

Kara Goodwin: want

to give to others too. But when it comes to that, like, um, you know, feeling a lot of people feel like they have to, um, you know, I, I have to let people know the truth and I totally get that, 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: early in the path where it's like, I want everybody to know I found out all this stuff, you know, and people don't want to know until they want to know, and that can be really frustrating and it can. You can bang your head against a wall thinking like, but if they don't know, they're not going to be complete or whatever. So anyway, I just noticed that similarity. And it's so true. Like if we just ignite. And then we go 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: into our lives and it just will happen organically that we share it and 

Peggy Oberthier: that's [00:19:00] right. That's right. And you just, you just smile or whatever. And your, your description reminded me of a session on Monday, which was so profound. I had this young girl, um, and. Like straight away. Um, as I tuned into her, it.

was like, there was like so many beings came in to support the session and, and I was just going.

I said, wow, you got a huge team. And then all of a sudden this channel message just came through like, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. And she started bawling. And, and as I was working on her. It was like she was on an operating table and there were probably like these three tiers of just all these beings from around the galaxy staring in and clapping.

I said, you are super important. I don't know what you're, you know, so it was like this, um, and she could feel it, and she was very, very emotional. Um, and it never, like, the channeling had never come through like that. And so, and, and then I got quite emotional because I was like, [00:20:00] well. It felt like I was welcoming her back to my own family.

So I had a client last week as well. I just started crying. I said, oh my God, we know each other. I don't know how, but it was like a past life related, those are the most beautiful. I, you know, I'm like, oh my God, you were my dad. Like, you know, it just, I. yeah, So it, those are some beautiful things. It's, it's never, ever random.

Um, and it's quite, um, it's quite a, yeah, there's all these synchronicities of why people end up booking with me and I say, why did you, I said, oh, I don't know. I just saw you and it just felt right. So I said, well, that's just how it's meant to be, I guess. So. 

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful. Well, you mentioned you're a trans, let's see, did you say transducer? Trans transmuter?

Peggy Oberthier: mutter, so like if you, yeah. So basically I guess I, to describe what I do, um, so, you know, medical intuition has got a, a whole. Different variety of different definitions. And for me, what I do is I go through, I can scan the body, I get hits, um, downloads, [00:21:00] knowings, clear cognizance, however you wanna describe it as, you know, where there are emotional blockages and or physical blockages and or past life related issues that could be causing physical issues.

So. As I, as I scan, so I mean, some medical intuitives go in, they see the full, you know, x-ray, they say you need to go and see a doctor. You have this on your lung. For me, it comes in as, you know, you, you were stabbed in the lung. But I don't, I try not to say the details of the past lives anymore because it actually slows down.

So then what I do with that information is that, um, I can transmute, so I shift the energy. I, I don't, I still don't understand the, you know, the science behind it, but my presence can, it's like a cosmic vacuum cleaner, I guess, or a leaf blower or whatever the terminology is. It's the full green mile, you know, in the green mile when he takes the mouse and he puts it in his hand and he vomits [00:22:00] up energy. 

Kara Goodwin: I don't remember that. It's been so 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, so it's quite, yeah, so it's quite an interesting movie where you, um, so it's basically that's what I'm doing and it's quite a physical, um, physical reactions for me. So I am shaking, I'm yawning. I am burping. I actually do physically vomit when I'm shifting really dark energies. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's very physically, um, there's quite a, it is quite a visceral experience, so what I've been told is that I'm, I shift stuff very um.

I guess my mentor describes it as like, I'm like a dump truck of, it's just not, it's not pretty. I'm like a dump truck of shifting dark stuff from some pe from people. So if you've got like, like, um, I know, I know people are a little get bit spooked about entities and demons and attachments and stuff like that, but, um, you know, that's, I get, I tune [00:23:00] into that and I can see those entities.

They come up as like. Um, they look like octopuses or like a snake coiled around your liver or, and, you know, Yeah, So it, that's just the image or sometimes I, it, it's, I don't get the visuals as detailed anymore, and I just know I say, look, and so then we, I get clients, I guide clients through statements like, can you, would you like to release that from your.

You know, um, liver, and they go, yes. And then usually you can see people shaking or some people actually vomit themselves, or it's like quite a visceral experience sometimes. Yeah. So it's like either my, my, uh, my mentor Patrice has jokingly said, maybe we should call ourselves x.com, but it's very, that's got a really, um, you know, crazy connotation because it's just.

You know, everybody gets things on them, right? It's, it's very hard. And a lot of healers do because they want, they lose, they use their own energy. Um, they think they're washing their hands and their, their sage and they're [00:24:00] doing all that stuff, but it's really about the intention of the work where. A lot of people say, I want to heal you and I wanna take your pain away, and I'm going to do that for you.

And in that exchange, um, you're like physically taking on whatever that client has so it can be, so it's, it's really in the intention. So I have to, in my session, I just have to sit and focus on my own heart space, right. And breathe into my own heart space and just be like a solid column of. Of compassionate detachment.

So I can't be attached to the outcome. I can't be, you know, I always want to take people's pain away, but, um, but I have to just go, well, whatever their journey is, is their journey and I have to, you know, and then, um. Um, and then just allow for whatever to happen to happen. So that's how I work. So I do actually have, I work with a lot of people, a lot of healers, like people [00:25:00] that have go, you know, I'm feeling really, really tired.

I was like, Hmm, I, you know, and nurses as well. You can get lots of stuff in, in hospitals, there's so many. You know, um, entities and stuff, and, um, and look, you know, you can, you can, you can do a lot of cleansing on your own and sit in meditation for a long time. And, but this is just like a faster way, you know, and I think we're meant to help each other and work in groups and, you know. yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: how, because you talked about like you will actually physically feel the symptoms. 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: play into it? Is that kind of your guide and does that always happen?

Peggy Oberthier: Um, it seems to always happen. If, if, yeah, so, um, it, it's, look, sometimes it, if it hasn't, if it's not lighting up in my body, then it's probably something that I can't work on. So it kind of, yeah, well look, um, usually. People will, I mean, I don't want, you [00:26:00] know to, I don't like to waste people's time. Usually I just say, tell me what you have and what do you wanna release?

Right. And then it just sets in motion straight away. And usually I'm actually. I'm usually sitting for an hour prior to a session just with meditative music on, and I'm releasing straight away, like it's a whole process of, of, of releasing, um, prior to the session. And then the session itself, this quite a physical, you know, purging.

And, and then from there, um, um, yeah, so I usually get the hits, but if they. If it is like a, if I get a stabbing pain or like in the back and the person doesn't have that pain in the back, then I know that that's a past life related thing. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh, interesting. 

Peggy Oberthier: yeah, yeah. And I say, or yeah, so I say, oh yeah, this is past life related, because some, and it's just, it's like a cue for me to go, you know, that's a, that's actually causing a limiting belief in that person and is affecting them.

So I [00:27:00] try to help shift those past lives that are associated. So it could be like. A metaphorical, like, you know, let's say you had your arm chopped off, um, or you've been stabbed in the back, but that's actually preventing you from moving forward because you, you know, you, you have this fear of betrayal, you see.

So, um, so usually that's how it shows up. And, and then we, and then I'll get intuitive hits about, um. So that's sort of, there's the past life stuff, there's the entity stuff, and then I might get a, I usually get intuitive hits around, there's like layers. So for example, your neck, it might start off as, um, you know, like pa past life related.

And then all of a sudden I feel a, like a, a sharp pain in the back of my neck. And I go, Ooh, that's, that's a fear stuck in your neck from when you were five and something happened. And people go, oh yeah, that's when my. My dog got run over by a car or something. You know, it's quite a, so there's a very [00:28:00] specific date attached to the information that comes through and, and I try not to get people to go back into the trauma story.

So what I, I try to help people, guide them through, um, is a release through light language, which is a very, very powerful tool. Um, and what I found for the clients that actually can access it, it's just this. It's like, you know, when you've got your blender and you're just blending in, it has boost and it says, and it just boosts the, the freak, the release.

It just makes it faster. The light language, their light language is, makes the whole process faster. So, for example, I'll say, okay, can you set the intention to release the, the powerlessness from your, from your. Your chest or your like solar plexus. And when they start speaking it, sometimes I just go, what?

And I just have to like, it just, I throw it makes me throw up because it's like a Ooh, like a real boost. Yeah, [00:29:00] yeah, yeah. It's so wild. It's so wild. And then what happens from there is that they have this tool to use going forward. They can, when they're like feeling an emotion or they feel a body sensation, now oftentimes they're like, oh, what happened?

What's the feeling? I don't know what it is. You don't need to know. Just speak it in light language. Your soul knows exactly what it is, and it's the language of the soul. And so you just set the intention. I wanna release. This thing from my back and um, and then you start, start speaking light language. So I've had so many people email me saying, oh my light language has been so amazing and I'm speaking it all the time. And it's, um, it's so powerful and re to reconnect to it. And so that's. 

Kara Goodwin: you

help people to connect with their light language?

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, well, it's so everybody has the technology and some people are blocked, and it is really related to the witch wound. And, and for [00:30:00] those people who are not really familiar what the witch wound is, it, it is, there are past lives where you might have been, uh, a healer or a powerful priestess or, um, a master of some sort, an alchemist of some kind of description.

And when you spoke your truth. You were killed for it or you were punished, or you, you witnessed people die for speaking their truth. So because the, the light language is the, is the voice of your soul and its pure truth, there seems to be a block. So I think, you know, you've gotta really work with someone, I think, to help unblock those.

Those, those subconscious, um, you know, and then of course also if you're very analytical and you're stuck in your mind, it's very hard to access. So how I guide PA patients, how I guide clients to do it, is that if you imagine when you're looking, uh, a baby or a puppy and you're going, oh, go, go, go, go, go.

And you have [00:31:00] this, this love that is emanating from your soul, from your heart, straight to that baby or the puppy. It's a language that baby is looking straight at you and they know exactly what you're saying. Right? It's a connection, it's a soul connection. And once you, so you can I just say drop into your heart space, try to get outta your head.

And I start with sometimes with a hum. You know, just, uh, and then, but I'm telling you, the most incredible light language has come out from people. It's like they rediscover that they have it. Um. And yeah, and it can sound, uh, my light language comes out in all sorts of different ways. It can come out as sounding like a, I don't know, like the, there's a Maori, the Maori, you know, um, I sound like a haka warrior.

Sometimes it, sometimes it's singing, sometimes it sounds, it's just depends on the transmission that is required for the time and whoever's coming through. So I also [00:32:00] trans channel, I guess people like. Um, beings will come through and give messages either via light language or actual message for the clients as well. So they, so they just, well, well, at the start it wasn't, you know, well, because, well, now I, yeah, because, 

Kara Goodwin: you had a witch wound, I would, I'm 

Peggy Oberthier: oh, yes. I had many, I had. 

Kara Goodwin: you even, um, do webinars on this. You've got one, one coming up as we're recording this. Yeah.

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah. So, um, we do, yeah, we do. Uh, we, I think everyone who works in this kind of space, I think there's, there's lots of past lives of persecution. 

Kara Goodwin: you were doing this, like you were doing a lot of this with your throat, if you're listening to this on audio, you know, she was like explaining the, the witch wound and, and priestesses and so forth, and doing a lot of motioning around her neck. And I could feel all of this, like energy [00:33:00] moving through my neck just as I watched her, you do that. 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah.

And actually can feel quite a constriction from your throat. So there's, there's something that we might have to set up a session and I can see we can, uh, release that, that past life associated with because you're, yeah. You're your light, like, 

Kara Goodwin: of, um, neck pain as well 

Peggy Oberthier: yeah. Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: out. And I've had people like try to help me with it too. And even goes up into the base of my skull. And, um, 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: a

hard time getting like really like a hundred percent getting a lot of people, they're moving it, they're helping, but it's not, I'm like, yeah, it's still, I mean, just, it just a whisper, it's still there, you know, but 

Peggy Oberthier: Mm-hmm. 

Kara Goodwin: there's, and which is my neck, you know, I mean, it's not my throat, but it's all in the same sort of area.

Peggy Oberthier: Mm-hmm. Yeah, Well, maybe we can, 

Kara Goodwin: yeah, 

Peggy Oberthier: maybe I can set up my calendar. I've got some, I've got some, uh, I've got some openings at the end of April and May. Maybe we can Yeah, we'll I'll, I can definitely help you [00:34:00] car, Kara. Yeah, we'll have to organize that. 

Kara Goodwin: I stopped you from talking about the witch wound because I imagine you've gone into this with yourself. 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, look, I think I've had, um, yeah, there's been, and it comes as layers like that very first session. Obviously he, Patrice is able to clear enough past lives to help me access my crown chakra and activate my gifts because again, the reason sometimes people don't activate their gifts and don't tap into.

Their true, you know, five dimen dimensional self and spiritual gifts is that they have this fear of, of persecution, and of course, you know. You know, straight away I'm, you know, just as, as you spoke, you, you wanted to be, tell everybody about it. Now, I, I lost friends. I lost my, my closest friend of 35 years, and I was telling her about this because she thought, you've gone crazy, Peggy. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh, bless

Peggy Oberthier: yeah, yeah. And, and well, it, because it, it's such a far stretch [00:35:00] for some people, right? And, and, and, and, and so, um, it. you. know, it's a cra It is a crazy thing really if you're just a regular school teacher and then all Of a sudden you're saying, I can remove an entity from somebody's back. It sounds crazy.

It sounds delusional. You know, unless you're in,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Peggy Oberthier: unless you're, unless you've gone down a spiritual path, which I'd had for, you know, for quite a long time and, and understood that these things happen and that there is such a thing as past lives and it is a real thing. Um, so I

think if, unless you have that.

understanding, then you know, it does sound completely woo woo.

Right. It's, um, and I know, uh, you speak about this in your book, which we're gonna talk about on my podcast when I interview you, but the, so the, Yeah.

So I think that the witch wound is real and, um, and again. Uh, you know, again, I, I uncovered a lot of the layers in that first session, but it's been, it's been an, it's [00:36:00] like peeling an onion.

They, they continuously come up, so as you might have a new. Gift come online or an activation or an amplification of your connection, or you, you, you might also have a contraction because it's like, oh, you know what, if I'm seen, what if people really, um, you know, am I, am I going to be killed for this? And so it's, it's quite a journey of stepping in and then releasing.

You know, the blocks to really stepping into your full power and who you're meant to be. Um, and a lot of clients and this, these, those limiting beliefs can come up in all sorts of ways. It could just be somebody wanting to start a business or, or, or, you know, or step into a relationship with someone. You know, you have your 3D you know, childhood experiences that shape your view on.

You know, on intimate partner relationships, but you might have also, when you come across this [00:37:00] person who you're dating, and on the third date, if, oh, I feel like I've known you my whole life, and, and then there's like this fear of like, oh, what's gonna happen? Oh, he might've actually killed you in a past life, you know? So, yeah. So your fear about being abandoned might be also related to. Some past lives. So it's like there's all these layers that we, uh, as humans that of all part of the human experience. 

Kara Goodwin: Right. Well, and I know that you also do, uh, work with people from like the karmic lens as well. And I'd love to explore that a little bit because, I mean, first of all, I think that people see karma in different ways. Um, so I'd love to start by just like, how do you see karma? Like what, what, how would you describe what karma is?

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, well I think, you know, you know, I studied, I went to Catholic school, so we studied the Old Testament and it's like quite a punishing God, right? The Old Testament. It's like this fearful God of punishing, [00:38:00] um. And then by the time I got to grade five and we were just like, oh, Jesus forgives. Oh, thank God.

Right? Oh my God, you mean I'm not gonna be zapped down if I lie to my mom? Um, so I think, you know, when you're a child, you're trying to absorb those things like, you know, it's like they're two extremes. Um, but I think from my perspective, the way I view it and what, from what I've channeled in on what I've seen and what I understood is that there is like a karmic, cosmic scoreboard, I guess.

And that, that eastern philosophy of, yes, we can ask for forgiveness and we can be forgiven, but we sometimes you don't just get a free pass. You know, it's, it's, you have to make amends. And that might be through deeds of, you know. Good. And, you know, um, and, and just trying to be a better person all around.

You can't just say, can I, you know, Jesus, forgive [00:39:00] me. And you go into the priest and you say, uh, you know, forgive me father, I have sinned. And, and then back on Monday, you're still stealing or lying or whatever it is that you do. Um, it, it just doesn't work like that because karmically it, it will come back to haunt you.

And I think that. People, some, I mean, the way the cosmic scoreboard works, I believe that if you've had a lot of ba you know, past lives where there's been negative deeds or negative acts, you will come in this lifetime choosing to come into, release that karma so that you can ascend to five D. You will, you'll say, okay, I'll take a few challenges in this lifetime, right?

And so. 

Kara Goodwin: hmm.

Peggy Oberthier: Um, you know, and so then I can like wipe my card and then I can, I can, you know, move up the cosmic scoreboard. I think that's, it's kind of how it works in a nutshell. Um, and, but what I really want to help people understand is that the karma [00:40:00] around. You know, forgiving self, it's like there's so many people that I see in my session, these beautiful giving empaths who will just excuse any behavior because they're so compassionate and loving.

They're so kind. They see the good in everybody, so, you know, but then they sit and they ruminate and they beat themselves up for doing the smallest things that karmically you're, you're active, not forgiving yourself. Can keep you really stuck in that low vibration and keep The guilt

and the Exactly.

Exactly. And in, and when you sit in those low vibrations and those lower frequencies. Then you are going to just get back what you sow. So it's, you know, it's like the law. It's the, it's another word for law of attraction. It's another word for if you, if you sit in resentment and anger and fear, you will be shown back to you what anger, fear, and resentment [00:41:00] is.

It's um, and you know, I think the other thing that I also really wanna. Emphasize with people is that even your thoughts around judge, people, judge, uh, so quickly. Even if you're scrolling, if you see somebody in the street and why is she wearing that, that thought is goes out to unity consciousness and it's a lower vibration.

It is not a nice thing, right? And so. That's gonna, I just think that vibrationally in that frequency is that it's gonna come back to you as well. But also like, what are you judging in them? That you're judging in yourself. So again, it's like, go back to yourself and how much are you judging yourself?

Because if you're super judgmental of others, you're probably very hard on yourself and you're, you don't accept yourself, you know? So it's like this, it's kind of like, it's always going back to the heart space. Um, and which is another chapter in your book that I loved. Anyway, we gonna, yeah. So just to, for the [00:42:00] readers, I was, I was able to read, um, Kara's book and Kara's going to be on my medical intuitive podcast coming up.

So I we're, we're, uh, we're doing back to back filming today. So I just thought, you know, you talk at so many things in your book or things that I resonated with, and I was like, yeah. So that, that heart space is really where it's at. So, I mean, there's, karma has a bad. Uh, you know, you've got that Taylor Swift song and you've got lots of, you know, that sort of, uh, um, but karma's happening much quicker now.

It's really interesting, like, I'm gonna give you an example. I was walking down the stairs, scrolling, and I was, I, I don't go on social media. I don't, I maybe once or twice a week I might check just to check in with family overseas. But, um, with the US elections and I was fascinated with all the tariffs and the, what's happening with Canada.

'cause I'm Canadian. I was on X and I was reading and I was watching, and then this reel came up and it was a, you know how it was so random on, on, on the newsfeed and it was a fight of [00:43:00] kids in a classroom. And I was watching it and I was getting it. Like I was like watching it enthralled instead of just scrolling past going, this is really negative and just going, what's gonna happen?

And I tripped down the last step. It's like the universe said, you're getting entertained by other people hurting themselves. And it was so quick of a reminder of the universe going, that's not being in your heart space. Right. Just compassionate detachment and you know, send love to the people rather than going, Oh, my God.

'cause I was looking for the revenge. This guy said something and this boy was gonna beat him up. And I was going, you go now. And so, because I was getting entertained by that, you see how, how quick that karma can happen anyway, that's a, a, like a, you know, or it, it's just, it seems to happen. Very fast now in this, in, in our timelines at the moment.

Kara Goodwin: Right. Yeah. Well, and, and I love what you, what you're talking about with bringing it back into the heart and [00:44:00] getting out of the judgment because it can be easy, especially for the people who are really sensitive and they're like, well, I'm going through a bad patch and so I must be being punished because I'm terrible, you know, and, and so.

I, I like to think of karma too, as like a balance, you know, that it's just your energy coming back into balance. And like, we've been talking about throughout this podcast where, you know, where we're even dealing with past life things. So, you know, we, we really can't control. What we did as a, you know, in previous incarnations, and if we experience ourselves as a soul who is here to experience and has experienced other lives to have experiences, and we want to see all sides of everything.

And so it's, there's this balance that happens. you know, I think that can help us too, to come into some of that neutrality where it's like, yes, this is what's happening. And there might be a karmic implication, [00:45:00] but you're just balancing and it could be from an ancient life that, you know, it could have been something that you've not, you've just decided you've pushed off and pushed off and I'll deal with that later.

I'll deal with that later. But like you said, well, now I want to ascend. I've got to clear this energy out, or I've got to balance this out so that I can be in a place where I can hold that higher energy. 

Peggy Oberthier: yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: yeah, it's so fascinating. So how do you help people to. Kind of process and clear karma. 

Peggy Oberthier: There's a bunch of statements that people say and, um, and that helps release it. And then we set the intention to release the karma from particular body parts. So, for example, you might have stored karma stored in your eyes from where you witnessed, um, or, you know, hurting someone.

Or you might have karma stored in your stomach or you know, either stabbing someone or you received. So it's a, it's, um, so we say these statements and then we help, I guess, transmute the energy. Um, and then we [00:46:00] give people the recording so that they have this tool that they can say those statements as well as they notice any that come up for them.

So that's how, that's how it works. 

Kara Goodwin: So it's the like affirmations. Is that the, 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, there's, yeah, affirmations, and of course then the energy and then there'll be some light language transmission as well, which will help raise the frequency and push out the darkness, I guess, from the group collective. So Patrice Christopher, my mentor, will be joining me on the call and we, we do it together.

Um. And, uh, and then at the end of the webinar, I just choose a couple of people to work individually and just see what the, what channeled information comes up for them. And then we help maybe shift a couple of past lives that might be a bit sticky or something. But really interesting about these groups, and I'm gonna hold them monthly, um, is that it's never random, which is really interesting.

So somehow in the group collective, you actually need to be on that group because the person that you betrayed. You know, in 14 or [00:47:00] 82 and you stole their money is on this call. And somehow we, yeah, so in the past I, I would just be sitting there like Sherlock Holmes going, oh my God, she killed her. Oh my God, she's a serial killer.

She killed all these people, all these hits would come. Yeah, no, it's really fascinating. Really, really fascinating. And then, um, and then it to collectively as they forgive and sit in their heart space, everyone's karma from that. Particular lifetime is released. so it's quite a, it's quite interesting. Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: down my back. Oh 

Peggy Oberthier: it's so cool.

Like I had a client who said, should I book another session? And I said, no, I'm really called for you to book. Um, Amy's group coming up. So, Amy Elizabeth is another medical intuitive that I co-facilitate sessions with. There's all medical intuitive directory, and I attended that call and she was there and she had all these, uh, chemical sensitivities and um, like nerve stuff through her skin and everything was really sensitive and in [00:48:00] that call. There was a person who had, um, I just was text, you know, messaging my mentor going, they, they put that lady on fire, which is why she has all these skin issues. So, um, it is really interesting because the, look, the, the monks say that maybe up to 80% of our physical ailments can be related to past lives. So it's, it's pretty, uh, it's a, yeah, it's quite a high amount.

So. So she had to be on that call for her to help clear that. So I guess, you know, sometimes that just boosts your release of what you need to release in those collective, um, in those groups. So it's, it's, it's absolutely never random. I can't tell you the number of stories. It's really fascinating. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's super fascinating. 

Kara Goodwin: Would it be appropriate for you to do a little bit of light language, um, before we find out how people can connect with you? 

Peggy Oberthier: Uh, yeah, no, I'll definitely, no, uh, no, I can, [00:49:00] I would like to, I can bring something in and just see if we can, um, I can see if I can bring in a, a light language, healing frequency

 Let's do some love and light for your, uh, for your [00:50:00] audience. 

That's it. 

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful. It felt like some, it felt like I could feel tapping on the back of my heart while that was, 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh, 

Kara Goodwin: and then there was, it just was so beautifully structured. I don't know. There was just 

Peggy Oberthier: oh, oh. Thank you. 

Kara Goodwin: like it was happening, like behind my closed eyes, like things 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh,

Kara Goodwin: Thank you so 

Peggy Oberthier: oh, Thank you Oh, you're so welcome. It's been so lovely to connect with you. 

Kara Goodwin: Do you have any insight on like where that light language was from or anything like that?

Peggy Oberthier: Um, it, it's, it that? felt quite galactic. Um, so yeah, it's a transmission from, let me just see, is it transmission? Mm. Yeah, it, it's palate today, so Yeah. So sometimes, yeah. So that's what came through it quite. Um, yeah, that's what's coming through right now, so 

Kara Goodwin: was so beautiful. Thank you 

Peggy Oberthier: Thank you Oh, yeah. They've got a lot of love in, they're quite loving beings. [00:51:00] Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: I could see you being a Pleiadian. Yes, 

Peggy Oberthier: excited to get my galactic astrology read by a lovely. Uh, lady named Miriam Erman, who's going to be on my show and she's going to help. Yeah, I, I've been told so many different things. They're Andromeda, you know, I think we have many lifetimes of many. 

Kara Goodwin: I think so too. We've got different places we're connected with, different places that we've, we've spent a lot of lives, a lot of time we've been trained on, you know, and so forth. So um, 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah, and the arcturians always show up in sessions because they've got that, that technology that, um, um, yeah, yeah, So they, they seem to show up and then yeah, whoever shows up will take whoever comes in, you know, to support on the day. 

Kara Goodwin: I love it. Well Peggy, how can people find out more about you and work with you? 

Peggy Oberthier: Well, I've got a website, very simple called peggy o.com au. 'cause [00:52:00] I'm based in Australia, so the au um, it's a very basic website meant for people. There's, it's, uh, no nonsense, black and white. Um, and all my offerings are on there. And then I have a YouTube channel as well that I co, um. It's a co-facilitate with, um, Patrice Christoph and it's, um, medical intuitive and the, to put the links on the bottom and I've got offerings coming up.

I guess by the time this comes out. Um, if you sign up to my newsletter, you'll have a, uh, you know, get the offer. I'd only send that once a month. It's very short exactly to the point with links. So it's, I won't bombard you with emails, so yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: you've got these group offerings, are those 

Peggy Oberthier: so once a month. Yeah. So once a month I do the, um, karma clearings, um, and then I'm moving into offering, doing co-facilitating with other people.

And I've got some men, I'm doing some mentoring, [00:53:00] one-on-one mentoring with, um, some people as well. Um, and so. That's been the new thing that I've been offering. Uh, I guess the former teacher in me help is able to help, you know, and I'm writing actually a book on, uh, as well. I'm in the process of, and I've got so much respect for you because you wrote this very, uh, beautiful book.

And so I'm in the process of writing a book, uh, in co-authoring with Patrice Christopher about, um, basically a guide to medical intuition and for, yeah, so. Yeah, so that's what that's on the cards. And look, that's going to be, I think, probably finished by 2026, if I'm completely honest. Um, Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: I actually won't tell you how long it took because I don't want to plant a seed for you. Let's go with 2026. That'll be awesome. 

Peggy Oberthier: I've got all the structure and all the, all the, uh, you know, all the chapters and it's just a matter of like putting in all the case studies and getting it all down to Yeah. And I do enjoy [00:54:00] writing, so it'll be fine.

Kara Goodwin: And it, you know, there's so many different ways to do it. Like infinite amount of ways to get it done. And you can do, I mean, I know people who get it done in like, like start to finish in like a month or something. So it just, 

Peggy Oberthier: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: you can do it however you want. Well, this has 

Peggy Oberthier: Thank you. 

Kara Goodwin: much fun.

Thank you for coming on. And when your book is ready, maybe you want to come back on and we can talk about 

Peggy Oberthier: Oh, I, that'd be amazing. Thank you. so much. Thanks so much for having me. Appreciate it. 

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