515. Healing, Hormones, and the Soul’s Rebirth | Tarot, Numerology, & Midlife - Dr. Sue McCreadie

Medical doctor tarot numerology midlife menopause spiritual awakening Sue McCreadie

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding your Ascension to new heights.

I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. I'm excited to present to you this fascinating episode from Dr. Sue McCready. We talk about the amazing mix of expertise she's cultivated over the decades through her training as a traditional western medicine doctor to reiki, energy healing to nutrition and numerology in tarot.

She's a holistic pediatrician and midlife transformation expert who helps women in their forties, fifties, and sixties navigate hormones, heartbreak, and healing so they can stop settling and start living with joy. Her mission to make transformation simple, soulful, and even fun because when women rise, we raise the vibration of the world for our children Before we start, I'd love to invite you to [00:01:00] explore the many offerings waiting for you@karagoodwin.com. You'll find my book, your Authentic Awakening, a collection of free guided meditations and other resources to support you wherever you are on your spiritual path. 

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome Dr. Sue. I'm really excited for you to be here and to have this conversation. Thanks so much for coming on. Soul Elevation.

Sue McCreadie: Thank you so much for having me. Ki[00:02:00] 

Kara Goodwin: So you help women in their forties, fifties, and sixties remember who they are and, and I love this full stop, but I am also very curious about you being trained as a pediatrician.

Sue McCreadie: I know, right?

Kara Goodwin: How this has become your passion. So tell us about your journey a little bit of, of how that came to be and, and you know, what, what we should know about you.

Sue McCreadie: Okay. Well, I think a fun place to start is that, you know, 'cause I work with a lot, I don't work with just moms who have birthed children into this world. I mean, they could have fur babies. They're basically any

Kara Goodwin: I.

Sue McCreadie: who are in their forties, sixties, and sixties. But I think a beautiful start is that I was inspired to go into medicine, um, because of, uh, my mom. And so she, um, she's 90 at the time of this recording,

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: tr trained as a uh, as a nurse. And this was back in the eighties where [00:03:00] you could bring your kids to work, including like if you work in the emergency room, you can just bring your kids to work.

Kara Goodwin: Ooh. Like all, anytime.

Sue McCreadie: yeah. So I mean, I think they had those designated days.

Do you remember that? Like

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Take your daughter to Workday. Yes. Uhhuh.

Sue McCreadie: And so I went with my mom to work, and work was the emergency room, which

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: like flat out, like, what? can that happen?

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: it did and it was wonderful. And it was that day where I was like, mom, I wanna do what you do. Like I just saw her helping people and I locked into it.

And she, which is super interesting, said, be a doctor, don't be a nurse. I was just like, okay, like I just took her word for what she said. Her point was like, give the orders, don't take the orders that we give a flavor of my mom for you.

Kara Goodwin: It served her well. Here she is at 90.

Sue McCreadie: That's

Kara Goodwin: love it.

Sue McCreadie: Okay. [00:04:00] That's good. That's good. I like that. That's a good, that's a good point. It has served her well. um, so off I went to become a medical doctor and I majored in bios, psych, and I love human behavior. And I was always into self-development even at a young age. I was at the Borders bookstore in the self-help section is what it used to be called. And I was just curious and learning. And when I went through medical school training, I thought I wanted to be a psychiatrist until I did the psych rotation, and then I was like, Hmm. This is not for me. This is not what I thought I would be doing as a psychiatrist. And

Kara Goodwin: And what.

Sue McCreadie: experience.

Kara Goodwin: What, what was it that you didn't like?

Sue McCreadie: my rotation felt like a lot of medical management.

It felt like a lot of people around a table talking about people and how to medically manage them and that. Wasn't what I, I figured like that's just not for me. That's not my path forward. That doesn't light my soul up,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: that's basically what I do. I [00:05:00] just continue to like, follow my soul and like what lights me up and what feels fun. And so during the pediatric rotation, I mean, kids light me up like. Kids for me are like animals to other people. Like, you see a cute animal, I'm like a baby.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: ah, I just, they light me up. They make me a better person. And so when I went through my pediatric rotation, I was like, this is me. This is it.

And definitely my first calling. And it was through that journey. I did a extra year as a chief resident, um, for the training, which means I, you know, did a lot of teaching and then also administrative work. And it was during that year that I was like, hmm. I just don't quite fit into this traditional medical model.

And then, so I started with a lot of things, including reiki. I saw that you're Reiki

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, Uhhuh.

Sue McCreadie: Reiki was probably my, I think it was my very first introduction as a medical student and my fourth year rotation. [00:06:00] Talk about divine coincidences. The only reason I did this alternative medicine rotation in my fourth year of med school was because a friend asked me to, and I said, great, I'll do that rotation with you.

Will you do this pediatric neurosurgery rotation with me?

Kara Goodwin: Wow. Two very different ends of the spectrum.

Sue McCreadie: different ends of the spectrum, and again, like I like the brain and whatnot. I never thought I wanted to be a neurosurgeon. But the neurosurgeon at our pediatric hospital, she was renowned and like, so humble people mistook her for the janitor. I mean, she was just incredible with patients. And I was like, I can learn so much from her.

Right? And on day one I was like, this is not for me. But he, my friend, he became a neurosurgeon

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: became, you know, an alternative medical practitioner, right? Like, I just thought, isn't that so divine?

Kara Goodwin: Yes.

Sue McCreadie: to me is just like two paths cross and I go through this door. You go through that door,

Kara Goodwin: [00:07:00] Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: was really my beginning was reiki and I was at a, my fourth year medical rotation, I was at a primary care physician's office.

She was a primary care. There were several primary care doctors there. One really focused in nutrition and supplementation. One focused on reiki. I was like, what is this reiki thing?

Kara Goodwin: And this was like a regular medical office.

Sue McCreadie: A private practice.

Kara Goodwin: Okay. I'm like, how did they get away with that?

Sue McCreadie: Private practice

Kara Goodwin: Uh.

Sue McCreadie: we get away with that.

Kara Goodwin: And where are you located by the way? Or where were you?

Sue McCreadie: I'm in Michigan.

Kara Goodwin: You're in Michigan. I'm in Indiana,

Sue McCreadie: Oh, awesome.

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Sue McCreadie: Yeah. So, um. Yeah, so I just think like, yeah, divine past and opening up. So she was really, the physician was, was really, um, just an opening for me and that's where I started training. I can't remember, so I just started training and that was like my very first [00:08:00] alternative medicine modality per se.

And then I just continued from there. I learned medical acupuncture and figured out very quickly kids are not super excited to have needles. Poked into them.

Kara Goodwin: So you still had the pediatric lens on with all of this training that you're doing? It was all from,

Sue McCreadie: yeah, when I started brachy though, it was before my specialty,

Kara Goodwin: okay.

Sue McCreadie: everything after that medical acupuncture came after it came during chief resident year, I

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Sue McCreadie: or after. But yeah, so I just sort of like followed. Well, that's interesting. Well, that's interesting. I landed on nutrition.

I

Kara Goodwin: Mm.

Sue McCreadie: nutrition, and that's what I've been focusing on with kids for 23 years and really help them solve, you know, health issues, whether that's allergies or asthma or eczema. From a nutrition perspective and looking at, okay, do we have any inflammatory foods? How do we help heal your digestive system?

Right?

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: elimination. So along the way though, what happened was, you know, moms in my practice are like, [00:09:00] what about me? Like, how can you help me? And so for the longest time I was like, I can't, I don't wanna be a functional medical doctor for adults. just like. Seeing the kids, right? And then I started to just open my mind in terms of like, okay, what else can this look like? And it looked like everything from running, you know, a nonprofit to doing network marketing. Like I've tried several different, uh, modalities in order to support women. And the last being this one, which is coaching. I even thought, which is super funny, I even thought, Kara, I was like, um, first of all, I did not think that I wanted to be a coach.

In fact, when I hired my first coach about a decade ago, just as I started, I was probably 43, around 43 at the time. Um, I actually said to her, all I know is I don't wanna be you. That's why I said I was like.

Kara Goodwin: And the universe just cracked up.

Sue McCreadie: cracked up. Like, how funny is that?

Kara Goodwin: [00:10:00] Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: so it took me what like another, you know, half a decade to figure out like, oh wait a minute, I actually like this thing. And it's just funny how learning happens, like how our soul learns. 'cause I was trying all these different things and then finally I was like, you know what? I just don't get it. I don't get where my need feels fulfilled and her need feels. Fulfilled and were for the greater good. It just was like always kind of missing the mark. So I just put the whole thing down and I actually told people like, I'm semi-retired. 'cause everybody knows me as like, what are you doing?

Like, what are you doing now, Sue? You're always doing something. I finally just put it all down. I was like, God, I don't get it. just gonna like put this down. And I think I'll just semi-retire, you know, as. A pediatrician, like finish the pediatric gig out and like, that's good, you know? And then lo and behold, within a few weeks or a few months, like the whole kind of, you know, cookie crumble to coaching landed and I just continued like [00:11:00] to follow it and yeah, no, I love coaching and I actually texted my coach, like after my first coaching client, I was like. We just

Kara Goodwin: I was wrong. Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: laugh, you know,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: hysterical.

Kara Goodwin: So now you, you've finished up the pediatric and you're really, you're focusing now on forties, fifties, sixties women, and are you, is this holistic coaching? Is it nutritional coaching? How are you working with people and why that age range?

Sue McCreadie: Okay. So it's, it's a curious thing because I used to think, okay, I can help women with nutrition, but that missed the mark. Like that wasn't like filling and expanding my soul and it, and it felt like, yeah, just it was a miss. Right. And I think that's the whole thing for people who are listening.

It's like, you know, it's a miss when it just doesn't like. Expand. Not to say that like what I'm doing now, there aren't like soul sculpting moments as I call them. There [00:12:00] definitely are, but it feels excitingly different and so I actually do see, I still see kids though. I, my pediatric practice is still open right now and I still see kids. But why I chose to focus on. in their forties, fifties, and sixties. I think that's because that's where I am right at the time, this recording, I'm 53 um, I think that really when I started to work in this area, I realized like, this is really kind of second adolescence. It's very much a transitional time. You know, when you, when you've gone, when you went through adolescence, I mean. It felt stretchy. It felt uncomfortable. You almost felt like weird in your body when you're shifting from a child into an adolescent, right? Your identity lots of times, you know, you're trying to figure out like, who am I in this world?

And your relationships are changing, you know, relationships with your parents, relationships with your friends. You're probably experimenting. Intimately with some, with a relationship. [00:13:00] And so there's just so many transitions that are happening that it's very reminiscence to me of adolescence, and I think that's just part of my calling.

I'm really here to help women through the transition, whatever transition that is. And not in a physical health way because there's so many awesome practitioners. They do that well and have that expertise more so in emotional healing and you know, understanding, know, spiritual growth, basically like how do unlock your soul's full potential, like, it can look in so many different ways.

And I think that's where, you know, women. Get stuck in what's right and what I should do. Right. Versus what feels so expansive. yeah.

Kara Goodwin: I love that and I love you comparing it to those adolescent years because. Is, you know, I'm [00:14:00] 47.

Sue McCreadie: Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: Um, and my kids are in high school and I haven't really thought about it like that. How it's like, okay, I have experience as an adolescent and now I'm moving through this, you know, portal, this new portal for me, and they're going through that adolescent portal and we are kind of in our own way, in the same.

Sue McCreadie: Space.

Kara Goodwin: And even when you said like you're, when you're an adolescent, so many things are changing, including your relationship with your parents. But you know people whose parents are still living when they're that going through this portal, their relationship is changing too with their parents where, yeah, their parents might be becoming dependent and you might be having that switch of.

Of roles, which, you know, we don't know how to do that until we're doing it, you know?

Sue McCreadie: I agree. It is been very skull sculpting for [00:15:00] me, like beautiful moments with my parents and also very challenging

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: Right? And if there's anything that my parents have taught me, they're still together.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: in their 69th year of marriage.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my goodness.

Sue McCreadie: They're 90 and 92.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: What they teach Merah is that they're still growing. Like the soul is still growing until literally, like, to me, and feel it's like until you're, until you're one, until you're one with spirit. You've expired your last physical breath. Right.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: you are still growing because there's so much growth to have in like the very last stage. Like you're losing so much, you know, and how to still feel filled with purpose and how to fill your day with joy.

Right.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Sue McCreadie: it's been a beautiful, um, experience to witness.[00:16:00] 

Kara Goodwin: I love it. So talk a little bit about this midlife time. As a portal for spiritual awakening, since that's the focus of how you help people. What kind of themes do you see with people going through this in terms of that spiritual awakening

Sue McCreadie: Well,

Kara Goodwin: side?

Sue McCreadie: keeps coming to me right now is pain.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: like pain and I feel like that's where so much spiritual growth. I know from my experience, like when I put a huge like, you know, fast forward or it feels like gas on or. Foot on my, on the pedal

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Sue McCreadie: of spiritual growth for me happened when I had multiple miscarriages, and it was so painful and so challenging and so much loss that I was committed to finding another way, like committed to finding a way to lift myself above just this horrible like sadness and grief, right?

And so I feel like [00:17:00] that's. Probably a similar theme of what I help women though, like, but maybe we wouldn't like say it directly like that. But in essence, there's some element of dis-ease, right? Like whether that's, you know, discomfort in a relationship. So helping women who have experienced infidelity in their marriage. and you know how to move past, like they've been divorced for years but haven't really moved on. Right? How to navigate challenging relationships with adult children. Um, yeah, we just dive into all, all the things. Even parents aging, parents um, piece with parents who are passing.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: Is a big one.

You know, just really those things are lot of relationship things.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, I would think like the, um, empty nesting comes into play for me. Like, I think about that too, of that transition [00:18:00] of being, um, you know, being, having your kids there, having that kind of purpose in your life where you're just,

Sue McCreadie: Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: in front of you all the time, keeping you busy, keeping you active and.

Then it's, you know, they're off and finding like, okay, that's, that was 18 years. What, you know, how do I reorient to myself, you know?

Sue McCreadie: Yeah, it's such a huge part of our identity

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: and I feel the thing for me too, um, which I often share as well. I became closer to one of my daughters when she moved on to college, which is fascinating to me. Right. So I feel like too, I, like there is so much evolution that can continue to happen as long as you, you know, continue to do the inner work and really. Which is one thing that I always share, like I've never read a parenting book. I just continue to do the inner work, and then my outer [00:19:00] world mirrors back to me more pleasant things.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Well, you know, as I was researching you, I mean, I love this. You're, you're a doctor. You're, you know, you're western trained doctor, but then you've got this reiki and you've got. This holistic approach to everything. You've worked with children, you work with women in their midlife, and, um, but also tarot and numerology play into your work too.

Sue McCreadie: so

Kara Goodwin: you are just, this, the fun, the most fun in terms of like, we could take this conversation in so many directions, but we, we have to talk about the tarot and numerology piece. So how does this play into everything?

Sue McCreadie: I know, right? Isn't it wild and weird? I was just having a conversation with one of my daughters, and the root thing was, you know, we were talking about kind of getting down to the root, the surface, like the problem's never the problem, right? It's like, okay, what's the root underneath there?

And the root she was able to reiterate. I don't know her exact words, but in essence it was. [00:20:00] Like self-loathing. It was like

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Sue McCreadie: I am, like the essence of who I am. Right. And, and I shared with her, I felt that way too. And she's like, really? Why? And I was like, I'm a doctor who loves otology. That is so like out there, right? And so I feel like it's been an evolution of me, even like, like coming out of the closet, you know? And it's so cool because she re, it mirrored back to me. She goes, I love that about you. So I was able to mirror back to her what she was kind of self-loathing on. I was like, I love that about you.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: just about like integrating all these parts of us. But the way that Tarot Tarot came into being is because I was on a. Getaway weekend with my husband in Asheville, North Carolina. There was all these fun stores. We walked into one of 'em and my entire like soul just lit up. I was just like, what is this?

Like kid in a candy store, [00:21:00] you know? There was crystals, there were plants, there was just all this cool stuff. And in the back right corner there was this you know, shelf. And I was just drawn to the stack of cars and I picked it up and said, tarot. And I thought it had the most beautiful drawings on it. And I was like, I don't know. I just. Get to have this deck of cards. I'm not sure why. So then I'm home. I'm with this deck of cards and I'm like, what do I do with this deck of cards? And I'm just such a learner, like, how can I learn about this? And at the same time, I was learning about the patterns of numbers because I'm someone who I've always seeing kind of like the one one ones and the two, two twos and the 5 55.

So angel numbers have kind of been in my sphere since my like twenties and thirties. And so. At the same time that I was tarot came in this idea of like numerology came in and then I saw, oh, they really go together. And if you're listening though, it sounds like your listeners would probably know tarot, but I actually didn't know.

I heard the word, but I didn't know what it was. And it [00:22:00] originated as like a deck of playing cards and like how we use the 52 card deck of cards now is how they used to use the tarot cards and

Kara Goodwin: Like to play games.

Sue McCreadie: play games.

Kara Goodwin: Oh.

Sue McCreadie: And that's my understanding of

Kara Goodwin: I mean, it makes sense because they kind of have suits and they have like, yeah.

Sue McCreadie: exactly. They have suits. There's four different suits and then there's these major cards called the major arcana. And what I love about them is I'm a visual learner and so when I was learning numerology, I. It felt kind of a little too out there. Like three means this and two means that. And so once I put it with the visual picture of the tarot, then I was like, oh, because the tarot, um, there's thousands of tarot texts out there, so it's all an interpretation of, you know, whatever you feel.

You know, there's the original, you know, kind of the Smith weight version, and then there's all these iterations. And the one that I love and use a lot right now is called the [00:23:00] Light Sears Tarot, decked by Chris Ann. And really what I see it as is they are pictures of the soul's journey. And so by working with these cards, I think of 'em like how a psychologist uses. An ink dot test where they stare at the white paper with that blank, you know, black ink dot, and they're like, what do you see? Right? And then everybody sees a little something different because in self-development it's all about accessing the subconscious, right? Like if we just say in our conscious mind, our behavior's not really gonna change, like we need to access.

Where are the deeper roots? Where are the limiting beliefs or the protective beliefs that are keeping, you know me safe, but now are really limiting my life? What are the rules, my unwritten rules? Rules that I don't even know I have and sort of dig into the subconscious in order to come to a new perspective, a new realization that really [00:24:00] like. Kind of shifts the whole thing. I mean, I love when I see it, you see it happen and the mom's like, whoa. You know, I call 'em mamas, you know, midlife women, mamas, they're wise women. You can just see 'em like they're just, And they just see it in a different way and it frees them, you know, it frees them to like say, oh, okay, you know, I can really shift moving forward and, and choose something different than what I've been choosing up until now.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. That's amazing. So you, you incorporate the tarot and numerology as one thing when you're working with clients because it a. Okay, because the

Sue McCreadie: you kind of pull in both elements. So like the way that I look at it is kind of a way for me to. Um, ground a person. It's funny, I have like a medical background, right? But I kind of look at it as like signs and symptoms in

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Sue McCreadie: Like when you come into a medical doctor's office, you're like, okay, this is like my signs and symptoms, and like, it's up to me to figure [00:25:00] out like, what are the patterns

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: do all, how do all these signs and symptoms code together to create a pattern? And where does that pattern fit in so that therefore I know which tool to bring out to help help the patient, in essence. Right?

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: that's kind of how I use tarot. Numerology. It's like you, everybody is assigned, you know, a number based on your birthdate, but you actually have like a constellation of numbers. And so to me, I look at them as sort of signs and symptoms in a way, like their patterns and in, in personal development, it's all about see the pattern. You know, and instead of having the pattern use, you use the pattern. Or create a new pattern moving forward. And so I think of it as, when I first learned about this discipline of numerology, I was like, wait a minute.

There's patterns. There's numbers, there's things I can tune into. Like, you know, the year 2025 we're in the, the year of the nine energy, which is the hermit in tarot. And I [00:26:00] was like, wait, I wanna know, like, how do I work with this pattern? Right? Because I think of it as like. There's patterns everywhere, like the Four Seasons, you know, to me, working with a pattern means I'm not gonna go outside in winter in my bikini unless I wanna be cold.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: Right? And so to me it's like when you kind of work with the energy, you know, of the month or the season, um, the year. know, then you really feel a lot more ease and joy. And even when painful moments come, it gives you another lens or a perspective to say like, huh, okay, this too shall pass. You know, it's

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: be this way forever. You know? Um, and sometimes when I share with, um, the women, their, their card, like their birth date card, or the date or the card based on their birthday, they'll literally be like. Like just, you know, or they'll have so many times, you know, they'll say, oh my [00:27:00] gosh, my favorite number is three. Or one of the podcast hosts said, I actually have the eight and the eight, the number eight, and the major arcana is the strength card.

She goes, I have that tattooed on my body. Eight, the strength from the tarot. I said, really?

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: Then we calculate her. Her birth, you know, her birth number raised on her birthday is an eight,

Kara Goodwin: Really?

Sue McCreadie: and she's like, I had no idea. She never knew that, which is, so I'm just like, huh. goes,

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Sue McCreadie: just been drawn to the strength card.

Kara Goodwin: Huh?

Sue McCreadie: I'm like, wow.

Kara Goodwin: Wow, that's amazing.

Sue McCreadie: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: you talk about 2025 being a nine year, and we just went through the 9 9 9 portal as we're recording this, it'll take a little while for this to come out. But

Sue McCreadie: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: you know, I think, I think 2025 has been a bonkers year. Like, and there's, there've been a lot of gifts, but it has been chaotic.[00:28:00] 

What from, based on what you know from tarot and numerology, can you, when you think about the year

Sue McCreadie: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: it's happened, how does it relate to what you know about the nine?

Sue McCreadie: The nine. I would say in general, just based in numerology. It's like the ending before the new beginning, so it's like a one to a

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: the cycle. And the idea is that you keep up leveling, right? So like you're not just circling at the same lower level. It's like you're continually learning and growing and.

Spiraling upwards. So when I think of nine, I think of endings, I think of new beginnings. Nines are also, they're, they're mirrors. So like nine plus nine is 18, one plus eight is nine. Nine plus nine is nine is 27, 2 plus seven is nine. Like it always reduces to nine. So nine is like a huge mirror. And that's experience this year is like life is just really magnifying a big mirror in front of me.

And. It's up to [00:29:00] me to be like, okay, I've finally got it. And sometimes it takes some really painful moments to get it.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: finally like, it's like, okay, I've got the message. I'm going to pivot. I'm going to release this idea that I had and that I worked for and it didn't work out. I'm going to re release that and like move on to the next Elu evolution.

You know?

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: I think a lot about that in the tarot. It's the hermit. And the hermit is the enlightened one, you know, of one to nine. Those are the choices of our soul numbers based on our birthday. It's the most evolved one. It's hermit high on the mountain, right? It's God's perspective, source perspective.

Very enlightened souls here to do like, um, humanitarian work. Work. And they need a lot of alone time. So just. Coaching two hermits recently. You know, it's like you get to really, if you're not creating enough sacred space for yourself to [00:30:00] create your own inner wisdom, you know, and then the, the lower of that is you can get stuck hermiting, which is what we think of, like just hiding ourselves away. But the hermit is really like the lighthouse. He holds the lamp or. She beams her light, right? I think of the lighthouses where the ships come in, you know, really sharing your wisdom. So it's like part within, you know, and then part going into the world and actually sharing what it is. And that's been my biggest experience of, and learning lessons so far of the year 2025.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: you know, an entrepreneur, I love creative work. I'm guessing you probably do

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: I can get very stuck in like, I'm creating this next thing, this next course, this next whatever. Right? And I learned a very powerful lesson by the end of first quarter of 29, 25, that you get to go find some more. People to support, right?

Like stop sort of preaching to the [00:31:00] choir in essence. Like go out and shine your light and share your wisdom, right? And see who else needs your support at that at this time. And so that's where actually what generated me even finding you right through podcasting is like. out there, Sue, stop hermiting away.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: time to get out there, and it's been so expansive. It's been such a beautiful journey. What has been your experience so far of the nine

Kara Goodwin: For me, I feel that the big theme has been the shadow and this has not been something that I have been historically interested in

Sue McCreadie: mm.

Kara Goodwin: or really drawn to as, you know, a spiritual tool.

Sue McCreadie: Yes.

Kara Goodwin: you know, there's a lot of people preaching shadow work, and I'm kind of, I just traditionally have been like, I'm just gonna focus on the stuff that feels good.

And, and I think that that served me while it served me, but I was [00:32:00] also just like. Clearly making that choice. And, and the shadow came up where it was just like, okay, enough, like it, it's time, kind of what, you know, like

Sue McCreadie: Yes.

Kara Goodwin: the mirror comes up. And so for me that looked like a lot of memories surfacing that I had, um.

Just not, I mean, I had buried, buried, buried, buried. And so a lot of that, um, and, and a lot of just things that, of subconscious things that were running in the background that I was not aware of and, and then became, you know, it was like, oh my goodness, look at that. Because like you say. When things are running in the subconscious, you don't, you don't recognize it because it's just hidden.

So that has been what I have noticed within myself, but then also in the collective. I mean, that's been, as the year has gone on, there has just been more and more that has surfaced. That's like, okay, you guys [00:33:00] have not, this has has been suppressed, it's been hidden, and you guys haven't wanted to deal with this, haven't wanted to see it for what it is.

And, and people are starting to become aware of it, it's starting to get more in our face. Um, and so that's,

Sue McCreadie: That's such a great, um, reflection for me. Thank you.

Kara Goodwin: hmm.

Sue McCreadie: what I created from the loss that I experienced first quarter and the big push, like get out there is creating, um. Little, I call them rituals, but they're little mini workshops for women to integrate shadow,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: is so interesting. I was like, you just brought to my realization like, Sue, you created all this shadow work. Integration integration in a nine energy year.

Kara Goodwin: Yes.

Sue McCreadie: That's so good. Go Carol.

Kara Goodwin: Uh, [00:34:00] yay.

Sue McCreadie: that's huge. That's probably one of the big biggest revelations I've had of my nine energy year. It's like, yeah, of course this would be the year that you would be helping women integrate all those shadows. Right.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful.

Sue McCreadie: and to me, you know, like I was explaining to my daughter. After we had this big heart to heart and you know, she was experiencing self-loathing literally days after I was going through a big self-loathing episode. You know, it just comes out of like, you just get activated and then boom. It's

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: And um, it was actually like, I'll share it with self-loathing over this journey of mine,

Kara Goodwin: Mm

Sue McCreadie: you know, like, why can't I just be a medical doctor and go to the office or to the hospital and just do the thing? I've never been able to do that and feel filled with joy.

Kara Goodwin: mm.

Sue McCreadie: And I was just one of those moments where you're just like, ah, probably because life can present its soul [00:35:00] sculpting challenges as an entrepreneur too, you

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: so I was like, why couldn't I just do this? You

Kara Goodwin: The easier thing. Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: I just do that? And like, yeah. So just really integrating that. And I was sharing with my daughter. I said, ultimately, I think all self-development, all therapy, all coaching seems to me about just integrating all parts of yourself so that you can fully love and accept, you know, I say how God sees me.

You know what I mean? Like

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: accept all the parts and pieces of you, the stuff that you love, the stuff that you can't stand, you know? And often is the stuff that we can't stand that other people adore about us,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: So

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: on like, oh my gosh, I'm such a multi-passionate entrepreneur.

Like I'm always doing this and that and the other thing, you know? And it's just like, people love that you

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: People see me as passionate and alive and, you know, exciting.

Kara Goodwin: Right. And that you have all of the, this different expertise, which is, [00:36:00] which makes you a unicorn. I mean, that's so beneficial for so many people and you can't find it. You do? Oh, look at that. Oh my gosh.

Sue McCreadie: drew,

Kara Goodwin: Oh,

Sue McCreadie: little, she'd be like,

Kara Goodwin: oh.

Sue McCreadie: take that down now.

Kara Goodwin: I love that.

Sue McCreadie: my husband wrote, just know you are truly helping the world and it will come back to you.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Oh, that gives me chills. But I mean, really like we need people who are one, following their passion so that it gives permission to other people to do that.

Sue McCreadie: yes.

Kara Goodwin: Also people who, I mean, who doesn't want somebody with a medical background. We, we still lean on that so much just psychologically of like, okay, well I got this advice.

I mean, she's a doctor. Even if you're not giving like medical advice, she's a doctor.

Sue McCreadie: Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: gives you those that. That credence, you know, to, to, um, [00:37:00] for whatever you advise. But then you've got this like, esoteric side and a lot of people are awakening to that. And, um, so I just think it's a beautiful amalgamation of expertise.

Um, I, I wanted to, I wanna go back to numerology in a second, but another way that, that shadow made me think. Because you were talking about just this, um, helping women to kind of integrate and be the fullness and to accept the fullness of who they are, and another way that the shadow has kind of, uh, you know, I kind of sometimes in hindsight see it at play, but like I'm starting to grow my gray out and that's been, that's been a journey, um, that I've been wanting to take for a while.

You know, you kind of have to get psychologically ready for it. And I've colored my hair for I think like almost 18 years, something like that, because it was like the first little [00:38:00] signs, you know, where I was in my life at that time. It was like the first signs I had, I was like, oh, we need to start coloring now.

So I never, you know, I just always had it covered

Sue McCreadie: Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: and, um. And so it's just easier in a way. It's easier to keep getting it, you know, touched up and things. And so now I'm starting to go through this really uncomfortable, it, it, I shouldn't label it 'cause I'm only like six weeks in, but I can see. Every day I am getting a little bit more outside of my comfort where I'm like, okay, I know it looks like I'm starting to give up.

I know you like see people in the grocery store or whatever, where it's like, you just look like you're very, very busy right now. I,

Sue McCreadie: I think COVID, like COVID was awesome. 'cause all of a sudden I just saw a bunch of like both my neighbors,

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Sue McCreadie: neighbor, neighbor, gray. I'm like, I love it.

Kara Goodwin: Yes.

Sue McCreadie: want my gray. And which is another thing of like. time. [00:39:00] Like I do have gray, but I, but one of my colleagues, like, you're sharing, like getting comfortable.

You can't rush it because like, she actually just went and got gray and then she was gray and she was like, wait a minute. Put it back to what it was. 'cause it

Kara Goodwin: Oh,

Sue McCreadie: she hadn't really fully

Kara Goodwin: wasn't ready for it. Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: gray, right? Like she of a little step ahead is kind of how I think of it.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah,

Sue McCreadie: yeah. Easing into it, I love it.

Kara Goodwin: well, I feel like I'm unwrapping very, very, very, very slowly this gift, and I still reserve the right to, once I've got it unwrapped

Sue McCreadie: Decide.

Kara Goodwin: that I want to go back to coloring it. That's always an option, but, but it is this, like I recognize this pattern within myself of just being, it made me more comfortable to stay on top of my roots, but.

They start showing after like two and a half, three weeks. And so I would spend a large amount of my time [00:40:00] really being like, okay, I've gotta hide this. I've gotta, how, you know, can you see it if my hair is parted like this? You know, and all of these different things of trying to stay on top of it. Which also uses a, a certain amount of energy and focus and, and hiding.

You know, there is that element of like, can't see it. You know, you don't want people to see who I really am, you know,

Sue McCreadie: I

Kara Goodwin: want people to see the gray.

Sue McCreadie: about hiding. I had another thing pop up to me this year early on in the beginning. Um. I have never been like a huge makeup wearer, but I've

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: do my eye makeup, and all of a sudden my body starts reacting to like my eyeliner and I'm starting to get, I was like, do I have eczema on my eyelids?

Like what is happening? And so I had to like get it all in control. I figured it out. It was my eyeliner. And for a while I didn't wear anything. Like now I can wear mascara, but for a while I was wearing ab. I felt completely [00:41:00] naked.

Kara Goodwin: Oh wow.

Sue McCreadie: so naked without eye makeup, which

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I would feel the same way and I'm very light on my, but I al I always wear mascara, you know, at least. And I wonder too, it, it makes me think of generations too, because I wonder if, like, you know, the teenagers now, I mean, a lot of 'em do wear makeup, but I also,

Sue McCreadie: but not a lot.

Kara Goodwin: yeah. And I don't feel like they.

Sue McCreadie: did in the eighties, is

Kara Goodwin: Right. Yeah. 'cause when I was a teenager, I would not leave the house if, if my face wasn't done. Yeah. And I don't think it's like that now,

Sue McCreadie: my

Kara Goodwin: but

Sue McCreadie: my inspiration because at one, when I started noticing I was reacting to this one, I asked my daughter, do you have one I can borrow? She goes, I don't use it, I just use mascara. And I was like. I'm just gonna use mascara too.

Kara Goodwin: I love it.

Sue McCreadie: goes, mom, you know, sometimes too much makeup [00:42:00] makes you look older. And I was like, check,

Kara Goodwin: Oh

Sue McCreadie: I will never forget that comment.

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Sue McCreadie: with, I'm going to stick with my mascara.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Oh, that's so funny. Well, you're so beautiful. You're you. You don't need any more makeup,

Sue McCreadie: you.

Kara Goodwin: but I'm sure you're beautiful even without it. Um, so going back to numerology, you were saying about how people know what year they are. So if people are listening, do they add up their birth year?

Sue McCreadie: yes. So I'll give you, I'll give you mine as an example. We can play with yours too, if you're open to

Kara Goodwin: Sure.

Sue McCreadie: March 8th, 1972. you add three plus eight plus one plus nine. Plus seven plus two, and you get 30, and then three plus zero is three. So

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Sue McCreadie: to reduce between like a one and a nine.

So

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Sue McCreadie: what's your birthday?

Kara Goodwin: I'm 6 9 19 78. I think I'm a [00:43:00] five

Sue McCreadie: Okay. 6 9 19 78. Is 40, so four plus

Kara Goodwin: four. Okay.

Sue McCreadie: also, so four is the emperor.

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Sue McCreadie: Um, so let's talk Emperor. And you know what else you are,

Kara Goodwin: Hm.

Sue McCreadie: you are a nine

Kara Goodwin: Am I.

Sue McCreadie: born on June 9th.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, okay.

Sue McCreadie: born, that's another, so our two big numbers are based on our birthdate, just how we added it up, reducing it to one in a nine.

So for you, Kara, that's a four. And then, um, 'cause June 9th, 1978,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. Yep.

Sue McCreadie: is 44 plus zero is four. And then the second big number, these two numbers kind of travel with us our entire lifetime. The second number is. The day you were born

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: So I was born on the eighth, so I'm an eight or strength. And you were born on the ninth, so you're the hermit.

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Sue McCreadie: [00:44:00] that is super interesting. So like when you went through a 9, 9, 9 portal, you can actually think of it, you went through a 9, 9, 9, 9 portal

Kara Goodwin: Oh.

Sue McCreadie: because. you start stacking numbers, you can kind of see how it would like exaggerate the highs and lows. So usually a nine would feel the benefit of this year even more.

And maybe also the drawbacks or like, I don't wanna say like good and bad, but like I think of as, as like an empowered, like things that are moving us forward and disempowered, like when we can get down in the rough and tumble. So I don't know. Reflecting on this year, do you see like. hermit in you?

Like, have you been more reclusive? Have you had to like beg yourself to come out or have you been like, yeah, I'm gonna shine my light now, or, where

Kara Goodwin: I think it's been both. And when you were tell talking about your journey with the year, I resonate with that a lot because I also am guesting on a ton of podcasts right now. So, and I [00:45:00] don't normally like focus on that, but it was this like, okay, this is what I'm doing. And it was a concentrated amount of time of researching and the book came out.

Sue McCreadie: came

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: your year. Oh my

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: like makes my heart sing. No. Like that is so aligned.

Kara Goodwin: Yay.

Sue McCreadie: Like to

Kara Goodwin: Well,

Sue McCreadie: book as a hermit in the ninth year and it's all the, he, like the hermit is the wise one. And your book is about that, like awakening

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Sue McCreadie: essentially, right?

Right.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. I love that. Look at that reflection. That's so, yes. I love that. And you know, I wrote my book like three years before it came out and we talked before we started recording a little bit about the journey with it. But you know, I did like basically two revisions of it and it, I just, I, if it was up to me, I would've.[00:46:00] 

I mean, it was always up to me, really. But like I thought I, it would come out, you know, in a year of when I started writing it. And it just kept not, and and part of that was also me going like, why is this book not out yet? You know?

Sue McCreadie: Mm-hmm.

Kara Goodwin: it's fun that like now realizing, oh, the benefit is it came out in the nine year.

Yeah. That's beautiful. And then there's also like. What your number is for the year too, right?

Sue McCreadie: Right. So the way, so you have a universal year, which is 2025. So two plus two plus five is nine. And then you have a personal year. So the way you do your personal year is you take your birth, you know, your first, um, like for you it'd be June. Um. 9th. Right? And then you add it to the year 2025. Um, and kind of like the old arithmetic equation.

So let's do that real quick. [00:47:00] Um, so six plus nine plus five is 24. 24. Oh my goodness. It's a six energy year for you.

Kara Goodwin: Ooh.

Sue McCreadie: Six plus nine plus five is 24. Yeah. So six. Kara is the lovers.

Kara Goodwin: Oh.

Sue McCreadie: are all about leading with love and, and making aligned choices. there's a lot of passion and polarity there and I think that's a beautiful, I feel like your book is. A representation of love. It's like your love expressed in the book to help other people get in touch with their love. You

Kara Goodwin: Mm.

Sue McCreadie: like at the core essence. We are love,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: Our state of being is loving and that's why it feels so terrible when we're in these more [00:48:00] challenging emotions, which serve their purpose. We feel most comfortable when we're. A loving state. And joyful state. And peaceful state. Right. And so I think that's beautiful that it came out in the year of the lovers for

Kara Goodwin: Ooh. I love that. Well, thank you so much. How fun is that? That's awesome.

Sue McCreadie: And that's the point is like it can be fun. That's really what I feel like one of my gifts is, is just let's have fun with

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Sue McCreadie: because I've seen so much, you know. Trauma and tragedy through medicine, right? And obviously the pain of a child and discomfort for a parent is horrific. Like there's nothing that will take you to your knees faster than a child in pain, right? also just the possibility that healing can be fun, you know,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: Like, it doesn't have to be dark and shadowy all the time. There would be those moments where [00:49:00] we're like, woo, wow, there you are.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: then really just saying like, okay, I got you. I accept you. I love you. Let's move on. Let's do

Kara Goodwin: Yeah,

Sue McCreadie: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: and it, it's just such a blessing that you bring this perspective to the people that you're helping because when we're going through life and we're having these challenges, we're going through a portal, like what we go through in that mid lifetime where it's like moving from. One way of existing and, and one way for our purpose to show up and, and going through this like.

Almost like an energetic birth canal into another version of ourselves. And there's pain with that. There's physical pain, there's hormonal changes, there are behavioral changes and, and tastes the way that, you know, what we enjoy. And, um, it's lot to navigate all at once. And [00:50:00] to have the tools to be able to step back even from things like.

Tarot and numerology, you know, even beyond just like, well, here's what science says, you know, but like,

Sue McCreadie: Right.

Kara Goodwin: wow, look at what your numbers are saying. This is what is showing up for you right now. And how does that relate? It can give us a, a lens through which to see, you know, a bigger picture. So that's such a huge blessing.

Um, I've just loved this conversation. You are just. A huge light. Um, please. Well, thank you so much. Please tell people how they can find you and connect with you more.

Sue McCreadie: Yes, through my website, dr sue mccready.com is the best place to find me. And there, there's some fun too, because you can take a fun quiz and it's really learning more about your midlife personality type. Um, because I feel like in self-development

Kara Goodwin: I.

Sue McCreadie: it's all about, you know, learning more about yourself, [00:51:00] especially. The things that we often overlook, like we're so hard on ourselves. I feel like midlife women can be so hard on themselves, you

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Sue McCreadie: this quiz is fun and it's all about showing you your unique gifts based on your personality, and then also some challenges that you might be facing and how to move forward

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Wonderful. Well, thank you so much Dr. Sue. Thanks for coming on.

Sue McCreadie: Thank you so much, Farrah. Thank you.

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