527. Activate Your Soul Sovereignty | Multidimensional Healing - Joanna Draus

Joanna Draus

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Kara: Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding Your Ascension to New heights. I'm your host, Kara. I am thrilled about this episode with Joanna Drows. You'll hear me say this again in the recording, but I value what she's doing so very much, and I highly encourage you to engage with her services. I feel she offers a clearing and connection to your spirit that everyone will benefit from.

And I got so much from my personal session with Joanna, and you'll hear more about that in the episode.

Joanna, Dr. Is an energy channeler and a healer spiritual teacher, and an intergalactic being who spent countless lifetimes on countless worlds, and she says that most importantly, she's a spark of divine, source of love and light, the same as you. Before we start, I'd love to invite you to explore the many offerings waiting for you@karagoodwin.com.

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Kara: Welcome, Joanna. It is such an honor to have you here. I'm so excited to have this conversation today. Thanks for coming on. Soul Elevation.

Joanna: Thank you, Kara, for having me. The pleasure is all mine.

Kara: Well, we had a session last week [00:02:00] and you blew me away. You really blew me away. I have chills even just talking about it because it was so profound. Um, and I can't wait to go deeper into that because you are really, uh, what you're offering is so important right now, and I hope that everybody who listens will listen very, very closely because it is such an amazing opportunity that people have if they engage with your work Before we get to what it is that you do, I'd like to start by talking about how you got to where you are now as an energy channeler and healer.

Was there an awakening process or have you always been kind of involved in this type of world?

Joanna: Okay. Uh, so the story is long because I'm 55, so lots of years. Okay. But I'll try to

Kara: [00:03:00] First of all, you, you mentioned when we met that you're 55, which I was shocked. I thought I was older than you, but, um, you, you do have me by a few years, but you look so youthful.

Joanna: Thank you. Thank you. I think we perceive people, uh, as energy more and more.

Kara: Yeah,

Joanna: really

Kara: I agree.

Joanna: age is just a number these days, you know? And it's going to be more and more like this. Okay. So, uh, answering to answer your question, uh, so, um, I think. Um, awakening, or maybe we should say ascending is a process.

It's a journey. You can call this first time when you like, your eyes and say, there is something more than can be, know, seen here. You can call it awakening, but people also say like, I had several awakenings on this awakening, so, you know, we can use them [00:04:00] interchangeably. So, uh, in my case, it started when I was three years old. So, uh, really, really early on. And funnily enough, it started, um, when I had, I was the only, um, child at this time because my siblings are younger, so I was three and I was having dinner with my parents, and I, like, I was always like very, you know, um, like. This kid that was, uh, very interested in everything, you

Kara: Very curious,

Joanna: Yeah, like million questions. And also very introspective, like, you know, a lot of, you know, thoughts and processes there. And I started to investigate the dinner and I was like asking them like, what is it on my plate? And they said, you know, like polished dinner. So they would say like, [00:05:00] potatoes. And I said, okay, I know what potatoes are and this is like, I don't know, what could it be, like cabbage or something like, you know, typical polished dinner in the seventies.

So,

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: very limited choices. they said, okay, this is cabbage. And I was like, okay. Uh, and what's that? That's meat. And I was like, I dunno what meat is. What is meat? And when they told me it's an animal's body, I went like crazy. I went hysterical. Like it was like such a shock for me. And I, I just couldn't believe it.

And I was, I remember sitting there and just like, like crying but speechless kind of. And just thinking like, what am I doing on this planet? They are eating animals here. Like, take me outta here. You know? I wouldn't say mothership because I was too small for the

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: but I was like, where is my real family?

Like what am I doing [00:06:00] here? And I, at this moment I felt like so alienated, like such a stranger here. And yeah. And you know, so

Kara: did you really feel that way? Like you recognized at that young age that you had a connection somewhere else and that you were kind of with temporary people, you really had that sense?

Joanna: Yes. It was like maybe I, I wasn't aware of where my connection was, like I was drawn into stars and all that, it was more feeling I don't belong here, which

Kara: Hmm.

Joanna: painful. I remember when I was like, be like five or six and I would see it and I would like look at my hand and think, how strange is this? Like these fingers, what's like, why do I look like that? Like, I was like such.

Kara: That's so fascinating. [00:07:00] Well, it makes me think, and this is not the first time this week that this memory came back, but when I, between the ages of four and seven, I lived in a particular house, which makes me know I was within that age range, and I was really sure I was adopted. And I, I don't know if it was that I learned what adoption was and that that was even a possibility, but, and, and you know, there's this fantasy type of, you know, like what's my real family like?

And I had a really lovely family, so it wasn't traumatic. I wasn't like trying to fantasize my way out of some trauma, but there was definitely a big part of me that felt like I was adopted. And I remember even asking my, my mom if, if I was adopted, and she was like, no, you don't. You see how much you look like your dad, you know?

And.

Joanna: Okay. Kara, this is so crazy. I had exactly the same

Kara: Really?

Joanna: with my mom. Yeah,

Kara: Oh my gosh,

Joanna: ask the [00:08:00] same. And she said, you look just like your father. Even like, you know, you have the same spot in your iris, like

Kara: that's so funny.

Joanna: But is even funnier, I think, is that we were right somehow because of course, on biological level, we weren't adopted.

These are, our biological parents, our family here on earth. But it's the memory of like your galactic family and. In my case, it is like being new on planet Earth that made me like, feel this way. Like this cannot be. And yeah, of course, like when you are smaller, your word is like limited to your family at this age.

So you just think about like, uh, did my parents adopt me? But it's like the humanity adopted us. [00:09:00] we came here, you know, and we're forming new family with them, but maybe not necessarily is them. It's the same family that our soul remembers because we, we just I'm, I'm, I know in my case I'm not going to, um, say it for you, but in my case it's that I just spent so much time living on different planets, different um, um, planes, even that this coming to A 3D Earth, because we were both born still in very and 3D energies here on Earth, it can come as quite a shock.

Kara: Yes. Well, that, uh, that's fascinating to me. So as you have, well, one other thing before we move on from childhood, I wonder too, if you [00:10:00] kind of relate to this, but I remember kind of way, this is a fairly new memory too, where I would wake up in that same sort of time period and as I was waking up, I, or maybe it was when I was falling asleep too, but I remember also asking my mom about this, which was the, the colors, the, the, um, the orbs of like, I didn't say orbs, but like the circles of colors that I would see.

Uh, when I was waking up and, and, but it was in my, like, when you close your eyes, you know, so I knew my eyes were closed, but I would see these circles of colors and, and I, and it was so palpable that it felt like it was a thing, like, everybody must do this. Everybody must see this. And so I asked my mom about it and she didn't really know what I was talking about, but she, you know, she validated the experience in terms of, well, you're just like, your brain's doing things as you fall asleep.

So I, I learned that it wasn't a [00:11:00] thing, like I put a lot of meaning to it, and I think I felt that it was some connection that I had with something and I was putting meaning on it. And then she was kind of just saying, you know, is your brain firing away? Or whatever it was that she said that was her truth

Joanna: Mm-hmm.

Kara: she didn't know what I was talking about.

But do you have any, any memories like that that came up as well?

Joanna: Uh, I, I don't remember, uh, seeing orbs. I remember lucid dreaming when I was like seven or eight. this was something I learned like on my own, you know, like, uh, then years later I read that, uh, the, that I think, uh. Uh, indigenous, I think. Yeah, like some indigenous stripes. They, uh, teach their children to lucid dream. And so when a child dreams that [00:12:00] they were like they were, um, there was like a dangerous animal, you know? And, uh, instead of running the child knows how to wake up.

Kara: Oh.

Joanna: so when I had nightmares, and I, for some reason I had a lot of nightmares when I was like around seven, eight, I, without any, you know, shamanic uh, teachers, I just learned myself how to do it.

And I remember I was in my dream There were like a lot of people, there was like a, one of the dreams I remember were a lot of people like adults, and they were like in a circle, you know, like here around me. And the vibe started to be kind of like, I didn't feel as a nice vibe.

Kara: Hmm.

Joanna: they were, I don't, I don't remember what they were saying, what they were doing, but I remember the feeling.

So it was like [00:13:00] I was a little, you know, like, oh, I don't like it here. I don't feel safe, I don't feel good. And I would just stand there, you know, like Alice in Wonderland. And I would say, you're just my dream. I don't care. I'm gonna this look at.

Kara: Oh my gosh.

Joanna: everybody has their own experiences, but, um, when you talked about these orbs, it's so beautiful because, you know, orbs are vehicles of angelic energy and some, uh, sometimes they are also like ascended masters. Like they are always like this high energy it just, uh, shows that you are so protected, you know, it's, it's so beautiful.

Kara: Oh, well thank you for that reflection. I love it. So as you. As you went through your life and you evolved, you, you [00:14:00] know, we all, there's such rapid learning of how to be a human when you're little and what culture is like, what society is like, how it's all structured and we figure out how to fit in or not, or whatever, you know.

But it sounds like you have come to understand that you, that you have a lot of experience off planet in other lives. You have angelic connections and ascended master connections and so forth. So how, what have you gleaned in terms of your, your own lineage, your soul lineage, and maybe a little bit about how that information came to pass?

Joanna: Okay. Oh, it's like, uh, it's so, it's so much.

Kara: Yeah. You don't have to go through the whole thing, but the highlights.

Joanna: to, yeah. To to give some, yeah. Some highlights. Exactly. So, um. [00:15:00] The term star seed, like wasn't there, right?

Kara: Right.

Joanna: about it. I was born in this, in the seventies and very early on, I, and I, I, I knew I was like this little alien, you know, like, I, I don't belong here.

This was like the mo you know, the theme of my life from so early on. And I was um, like an outsider at school as well. Like I can be very social, I can be life of the party, but in this early years I was kind of living in my world. And I was doing very strange things like, uh, talking, like speaking, like language and doing these things.

And my parents, they were like, uh, you know, like they didn't say anything, but they weren't very happy with this either, you know? So they were like, oh, like I'm [00:16:00] not a regular child, you know, a kid on from, on the block. I'm, I'm, this is a strange kid on the block. So, uh, it was like this. And then they had my siblings and they were like more, you know, uh, like, uh, main Street children.

So I think it was easier for my parents to deal with them. anyway, I started very early on to read science fiction. my dad, my dad, he's a star. He doesn't even know about it, but he is okay. And he introduced me to science fiction. When I was eight, I started to read science fiction. Like I read tons of books.

Like, you know, there was no internet, not really movies, because it was communist Poland. Like we, there was a Iron Curtain. So a lot of, you know, the, the, the information wasn't flowing freely. But I had books and I read tons and I read science fiction was like my go-to my, it [00:17:00] was like my, you know, my heaven. That was like these other words, you know, that was where I felt uh, more at home than, than here. yeah, I read tons of, of science fiction and I watched all science fiction movies. This was like something I did with my dad, this we had in common. And yeah, this was cool. And then, um, you know, uh, like. He is, um, the first wave, you know, of volunteers like Indigo, all this. And so, uh, he, he's like, he's a little bit happier now, but he was really unhappy. I, I saw him suffering a lot when I was young. like he couldn't find his place here either, but he didn't have the, the tools and the consciousness that I have, [00:18:00] so,

Kara: So is he part of, was he part of the military at all?

Joanna: no,

Kara: No.

Joanna: so. No,

Kara: Okay.

Joanna: was like this hippie, you

Kara: Oh, okay. Mm-hmm.

Joanna: vibe. Like, you know, the first volunteers, they

Kara: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I know that in a, in some places like that generation, the star seeded connection, a lot of it is associated with the military where there they seem to be part of some mil there, there seems to be a lot of overlap with that wave and the military involvement, and then when they have star seed children and things like that.

So I was just curious.

Joanna: I never, I need to dig into this. I never heard about it. Like I see all these indigo, you know, children and all these like first wave

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: to Dolores Cannon, et

Kara: right.

Joanna: as, as hippies. Like, because these are people who were nonconformist. They [00:19:00] tried to live differently. Maybe they didn't succeed or they succeed for a short time.

And then for some of them it really ended bad. Like, you know, Philip Ka or others, like, you know, some artists tried so many of them, but they tried, they tried to change the, the reality and they, I think somehow they like. Uh, laid ground for us, you know, like, uh, yeah, like, you know, when you listen to, to the songs, et cetera. Like, imagine by John Lennon, it, he's just singing about five the Earth. Come on.

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: it's so obvious now.

Kara: Right. Yeah.

Joanna: never even say this because there was like no

Kara: No language for that. Yeah.

Joanna: Anyway, so, um, um, my dad, he also introduced me to meditation, which is like, because I, you know, I, I didn't [00:20:00] appreciate and I didn't realize it's like we, time and this perspective, you can see how much. There was like of his, um,

Kara: Influence. Yes.

Joanna: was because, uh, yeah, I, I, I didn't see it at the moment, but yeah, he was like, the first one who introduced me to meditation. I think it was like transcendental meditation or something like this, which was, you know, uh, in the eighties. And then I, I, uh, had some friends, um. had one particular friend who was really, really spiritual and um, he introduced me to Buddhism and, um, I met, uh, one of their in POEs visit who was visiting Warsaw, and I took body Safa vows. I don't know if you know body Safa vowel.[00:21:00] 

Kara: Uh, not intimately, but I can imagine. Mm-hmm.

Joanna: a Buddhist thing. It's like, to simplify it, you, you make a vow that you will keep reincarnating until all sentient beings achieve enlightenment.

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: So it's very beautiful. Right.

Kara: Uh.

Joanna: And I still love it. Like, I love the idea. So yeah. So that was it. And then, um, in the early nineties, I went, much more into meditation. Like I, I started to meditate every day, and I still do. So it's like 30 plus years. And I went into, um, zen meditation, like, um, Japanese Zen Zazen.

Very, very, it's like, how to say, like very, you know, no visualization, [00:22:00] no, no channeling, no orbs, like nothing. You look at the wall and if you see something accept the wall, then it's, it's a no-go because it's your ego. So it was like a very harsh spiritual school, I would say. Um, yeah. So I, I was in this, um. Sangha, which is like Buddhist community, uh, for over 10 years. And I had my, um, my and master because this is very, uh, hierarchic, you know, um, because we say that Buddhist is not a religion, it's a philosophy, but it, it's a religion. Like, uh, politically, economically, when we think about it, it is also, it's just maybe, um, closer to spirituality, but still it's a religion.

So I did it for 10 years and I also did some, um, learning. Like I remember I, uh, learned how [00:23:00] to use pendulum, you know, for healing, for finding, you know, a place in like where to place your bed, et cetera. At home, I did this, uh, I did this in 1992, so I was 22, so I was really drawn to it and. Then life happened because I, I had my, uh, first child I, like, I was studying and I, I had my first child at the uni, so it was like, wow.

Really tight, you know, uh, schedule. And so I had her, and then I, I just, you know, I was studying. I graduated and I started to work and I started, you know, I had like, um, 20 plus different careers. Like,

Kara: Wow.

Joanna: it's so, yeah. It's so crazy. Like, um. I was supposed to be [00:24:00] a teacher, but then I became a journalist. Then I became a PR specialist. Then I became, um, manager of the animal rights, uh, NGO.

Kara: Wow.

Joanna: I became an it translator. Like I've done so many things, I cannot believe it myself

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: like, it was like really, uh, a wild ride. uh, my thing is that I always wanted to help people and so I was always working, working, looking for work. Where I could help people best, like apply my skills in the best way to help people. course, my definition of helping people and animals because NGO Animal rights,

Kara: Right.

Joanna: for, for others sentient beings. But still my definition of helping, of course, evolved as I [00:25:00] evolved. So I was doing all these, all these things and more, I'm not gonna

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: anyone because, uh, some of these jobs weren't even like, so funny when I think about them now.

But somehow, you know,

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: I, I just went with the flow and, and did it all. And I wanted to also to try a lot of things because I'm very curious and I want to, check things firsthand. So I had to have my own company. I have to work in a corporation. I had to work in NGO to just check. And I also worked for the government, so I wanted to check different, you know, environments.

Like how does it work, how it is, like, you know, and I moved countries, like I lived in France for some time, but it was earlier than I came back to Poland and then I moved to Spain um, 2009. So, yeah, so, [00:26:00] and I had, ah, and I had more children because I, I, um, had, uh, twins.

Kara: Oh wow.

Joanna: yes. My, my sons are, uh, bought now.

Kara: So is my son.

Joanna: Yeah. You see? Ah,

Kara: Yeah. 

Joanna: yeah. Yes. So, uh,

Kara: So how did all of that play into the discovery of your multi-dimensionality, and what did you discover in terms of your, your other aspects?

Joanna: Yeah. So, um, like I, I said when I started to meditate, like day in, day out in early nineties, I really, uh, kept this, this is like my, uh, daily hygiene and in, uh, darkest times, uh, it kept me sane, I think, or maybe it kept me crazy, but good, crazy, which is, [00:27:00] you know, this is what counts, right? So, yeah, because, uh, of course there are people who live listening to us would say to crazy ladies, let's be, let's be honest, this still happens, right?

So, you know, this is all matter of perspective. So I, I was doing this and I was like, um, always. Trying to look for ways to help people. I think I, like, I started to consciously do the energy work, like, maybe not do, but use the energies in my work. was here in Spain, like, um, I don't know how many years ago, but long time ago, at some point I was, uh, teaching, uh, English as a foreign language. I only worked with adults. [00:28:00] And, uh, so these were like corporate, you know, classes or one-on-one private tutoring. And, um, uh. I was like, I was meditating. It was always part of my life. I, I would use like pendulum or, uh, you know, muscle testing. I would read spiritual books. I knew that like, you know, reincarnation, all this, it was my reality for, you know, years and years. For me it was like, you know, karma. I, I think in these terms. And it was like there, like, yes, since I was like a teenager, but it didn't like come together really. And at some point it was so funny because, uh, you know, when, especially when, uh, uh, okay, when you teach like corporate classes, you have the lesson plans and you have the books that are like [00:29:00] accepted.

You know, it's all like, there is a curriculum. It's like you need to follow the rules and, um. So I did it. But somehow there is always like a space for, you know, just chatting with your students. Of course you do it in English, like when you are an English teacher, you do it in English. So I would chat with these Spaniards, you know, and we would come across various topics. And I just started to see these crazy, uh, synchronicities because they're not coincidences, they're synchronicities. Like I would, I wouldn't propose, you know, the topic. They would come up with something and we would have like a big discussion, you know, in a group of, of these adults, you know, learning English. And then I would come home, uh. And in the evening I would have a class [00:30:00] with a private student who was like, uh, for example, completely different age, you know, uh, and completely different background apart from being Spanish as well. It was like completely different, you know, mindset because there was like a, a two generation gap, two generations gap between them.

The, the, the students in the morning, they were young, like 20 something. And this was like a 70 plus, uh, person who was like retired, you know, just learning like hobby, you know, to, to have like a mind gym, right? Brain gym. And would just. Talk about the same thing, like out of the blue. He would just start and we would have like this beautiful, flowing conversation and I could also like see the points of views on the topic. And I was like, okay, that's weird. I just, you know, made a mental [00:31:00] note and then it would happen again the same week and then it would happen every day. then it was like, I thought about something and it was popping up during the class and I was like, like pinch me.

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: what's going on here?

Like I was already, you know, like guided and it, these were English classes, but uh, in time these English classes, uh, evolved more into coaching and other things and. In the end, these corporate, you know, uh, contracts, they came to an end and I just went one-on-one or maybe, you know, a couple or a couple of friends, like private. I was really free. I didn't have to to follow the curriculum. And, uh, these people, they would talk to me about [00:32:00] life. It was like, English, we do it in English, but, you know, I would uh, carry them through their divorces, through their job changes. I would like prepare them for very important presentations. Like, I would do this. And then we were like, okay. Let's meditate. Like, you know, I would always, because I was teaching meditation when I lived in Warsaw, you know, in the nineties, it was one of my things I would always teach everybody because I think like, this is one of the best things you can do, like, you know, and it's for everybody and it's free and it's beautiful. So I would like introduce them to meditation. We would talk about, you know, like the, I had some students we would talk about Soul Journey and it wasn't just a regular class, it was already like. Energy work and [00:33:00] beautiful healing and you know, and we got the goosebumps and everything. And you know, I just started to attract more and more of these like conscious or more conscious, more awakened individuals because, you know, uh, they relate like we related so nicely.

Kara: Yes.

Joanna: were attracted to me and I was attracted to them, you know, synchronicity, et cetera. And I was also coaching people, um, about veganism, like, you know, uh, vegan diet and so on for families, et cetera. And um, I just saw that. Uh, it's not enough. Like I believe that vegan is, uh, can be like, uh, very, very healthy.

And in fact, uh, like of course you can make it unhealthy if you eat only chocolate and, you know, uh, crisps then

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: even if there are vegan, [00:34:00] it's not really, and yeah. And you, you're doing coke, which has begun too. No, no. This is not the way, but I believe that it can be a very nice and, uh, gentle and conscious and healthy way of life. So I was, I was, uh, like, uh, coaching people how to do this, but then I saw that there are people who are like clean, as you say, right? Uh, they have no addictions. They don't even have coffee. Like, you know, and still they get sick. And I saw it, uh, I saw it with my mom. To be honest, my own mom who was vegan for years already, my influence.

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: But yeah, she got really sick and I was like, oh, it didn't help her. So how can I help better? Because this is always like on my mind, you know, how can I help? [00:35:00] And then I felt like, okay, so if it's not the body, like, you know, the digestive system and so it has to be here and here, right? And so I went more into and I just, you know, I just asked and I just, I asked, and I said a very clear intention.

I want to be the best healer I can be in

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: Like, please help me, help me. Spiritual support team, please help me. And yeah, and then I, I took like, I don't know, like, uh, you know, uh, maybe 50 or more courses during like a year. I was like, you know, uh, I had a lot of time and I had money to do it, so this was like really very nice synchronicity again. And I was just, you know, learning modality after modality and doing [00:36:00] activation, working with this teacher, that teacher, like doing it all. And when I first heard, um, a Kasik Records, it made me like, whoa. Like, you know, a buzz, a thrill, everything. And I was like, wow, this is it. This is it. And I still didn't know how to exactly go about it. And then, uh. I did some healings, like, you know, uh, others like Akashic Records, healers, they work with me on my, um, Akashic records in my field because I wasn't ready at first. And when I was ready, the teacher appeared as

Kara: Uh,

Joanna: happens, you

Kara: yes.

Joanna: And yeah, this lovely, lovely guy and really I learned so much from him and I'm really grateful.

And I think that, uh, it's not only that [00:37:00] he me how to do it, but he taught me to look for the ways to do it better than he did. You know, like he was always like, you can be like, I hope you are going to be the best akashik healer there is, you know, like this. No ego. And so it really. Like I had wings, but he helped me spread my wings. of course it's not only him because there are so many teachers and, and healers I worked with and I collaborated with like, you know, it's like we are all one in the end. So, you know, I'm, I'm nothing. But grateful. but yeah, he taught me, he taught me this, that I can, like, I started to co-create this modality. I even changed the name because, uh, he was always saying a cash records. And I said, so [00:38:00] records to make it like more understandable, you know, without, you know, technicalities and explanations. And, uh, now I am teaching it to others and it's the same, the same, uh, attitude because I always teach them to work on their, you know, script on their way of doing it so it's better.

And I really, I really hope everybody can. Can, uh, get something like this, do a session like this at least once in their life. Like I never say to clients, come back to me if they want, they can. But I think one session is really what you need to jump, shift your ascension. something like what I do or what others do, because of course I'm not the only one.

And for sure there are plenty of people who do it and they have different names. Like, you know,

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: for spiritual stuff, it can be like [00:39:00] so confusing sometimes.

Kara: Right.

Joanna: we are talking all talking about same things, just, you know, using different words. So, yeah, and you asked me about my heritage and so on.

It's like, you know, it's like, I think this. Ascension or awakening, you can call it. But I, I, I prefer ascension because I think we are already awakened. It's just never ending journey, I think, in this lifetime. So I get like, new peaks, you know,

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: like every day, sometimes, few times a day.

And what I do is like, really this is, this is funny, but I really, uh, I recommend it to all my students. Like, um, I keep a Google Doc on because you can use it on your phone and on your computer, right? It's like in the cloud. So [00:40:00] I, I sleep with my phone, which is protected with the, um. Um, appropriate crystal so that, , no effects on my magnetic electromagnetic field, when I wake up, like in the middle of the night or in the morning and I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, this, that, like all these downloads, I have a Google doc called Revelations, and I just tried it down with a date each time, and I don't know, because I do it for years.

So it's a very long dog. It looks like kind of, you know, spiritual dairy for me because, you know, I, I write every new insider. There are so many, and yeah, and sometimes I can, I can myself, you know, um, on different planets because this is something you, you ask and yeah, I can. Yeah, it's like, [00:41:00] you know, uh, it's kind of intimate somehow.

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: I dunno, like, uh, to what extent I should just, you know, like say it like this, but anything, uh, anyway, if somebody thinks, um, um, I'm crazy here. They already did, right? So yeah, I can see myself on other planets and it would happen like in the meditation or in, um, in my dreams. And sometimes I have visions like just wrote on my blog.

I think it was like the most personal, I went on my blog recently. I, for example, had a vision of parallel life, so it's not other planet, it's here, but different circumstances. And I just had it, it was like mind blowing because I was. I live in this small town, coastal town in Spain, and I moved here in during pandemic [00:42:00] and in my, and I was walking through the central, you know, square where they have a town hall and everything. And I saw myself, uh, with my children, uh, my twins, and they were playing there. I saw it like I wasn't meditating, I was walking and I had to stop. And I was like, oh my God, what's going on? It's like, um, another layer of reality, like superimposed and I saw, and they were like five or six. My sons in division and I haven't been to this town

Kara: Oh

Joanna: because we moved when they were like, uh, whatever, surfing or something. So. Uh, I just connected the dots when I got, like, when I could catch a breath because it was like, wow. Also, I, my hair was different color. Like I was younger, like,

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: journey back [00:43:00] in time into parallel reality, like, wow.

Kara: Wow.

Joanna: I was like, wow. And then I realized that I really needed it because what happened, actually, very curious thing. I went to Warsaw, my hometown, you know, the capital of Poland, I, I haven't been there for a long time because I, I'm not really keen on traveling. I'm very, you know, beach home

Kara: Mm-hmm.

Joanna: kind of person. But, uh, I went there. And the vision happened before and like long before, so before I went to to Poland, after a few years of not visiting my hometown, already knew that I will do plenty of healing of parallel timelines there because there are the lifetimes in which Joanna didn't move to [00:44:00] Spain, you know, and she didn't do this.

She did, she's still there. So, you know, so much energy. I was just, and also like the childhood things, like I was going, you know, first two days I just met my mom. And I couldn't, like, I had no space for all my friends or anything. Like, I was like, you know, I, I just met my mom and then I was walking like alone. Uh, wondering, like, I went to, um, the place where my kindergarten still is

Kara: Wow.

Joanna: I was walking around. I went to the park where my mom used to take me for walks when I was really little. And then my granny when I was a little, you know, but I was like a child, like, you know, six or something. And it was so much energy and so much healing.

And, and it was like crazy. Like really, really.

Kara: Wow,

Joanna: [00:45:00] started to reconnect with people like, um. Friends and, uh, my ex who lives there. And it was like so much healing again. It was

Kara: wow.

Joanna: So, uh, I was like, okay. I'm like, I'm excused now. I know why I didn't come, uh, earlier, because everybody's like, you have to come off and why don't you come?

Why don't you visit us? Especially my mom. She

Kara: Yeah.

Joanna: but I, I don't wanna go. I don't go there. And I was like, I didn't say to her, but I said to myself, okay, you are excused. You needed to prepare and be ready for this healing. Now you could do the trip and truly make the best of it.

Kara: Yes. That's fantastic. I, I really, I love talking about parallel lives. That doesn't come up that much, but I had a guest on the podcast a few months ago named Rachel [00:46:00] Corpus. Corpus, and she is a, an angelic channel and, uh, and many things, but she went into parallel lives really briefly, and I remember she just gave like a few examples and it was very metaphorical.

She was like, because there's the, you who's has your podcast and you're doing this stuff, and then there's the, you who, who is on a ranch and works on a ranch and there's a, you who, and the other two or three things that she said were part of my past that she wouldn't, she wouldn't know, like we had not talked about it.

That was the only time we ever met. There was a period of my life in my twenties when I lived in England where I was. I couldn't get enough of horses and I was reading books on how to have a horse business. I really thought I wanted to quit my corporate job and have a horse farm, and I wanted to figure out how you could make that sustainable, because [00:47:00] horses are very expensive.

So you kinda have to make a business if you're gonna have horses, if you're not just like, you know, oozing money, you know? So anyway, it was really funny because she wasn't particularly saying, Kara, you have the life that you know, and then you have this life. You know, she was, it seemed like she was making it up in the moment, but I was like, I really felt like she was calling out these other versions of me that had changed my focus to something else.

And I was like, oh man, I'm thi I, and I didn't even really catch it so much. Until later. I think it was actually when I was going back into the episode to create some clips so that I could post 'em on social media. And I came across that and then it, that's when it really hit me. And I was like, whoa, those could be my actual parallel lives.

And so it is really fascinating and I think that when we opened the door to that understanding, it can, you know, [00:48:00] things that might seem like, you know, if you, you keep coming back to like, well, people must think I'm crazy if they're listening to me. And it's like, well, for one thing, we're over 500 episodes in, if people are still listening to the guests that I bring on, you know, they're, they're on board.

Um,

Joanna: your old audience.

Kara: no.

Joanna: the somebody who stumbles like across

Kara: Yes.

Joanna: some people they just

Kara: They don't have any frame of reference. Yeah, but it's, you know, it really does start to make sense the more we, but, but at first blush, you know, it can be like, what in the world are you talking about? So, um, but it, it, for me, it makes a lot of sense and it, it is very timely because I'm also in a place some and some other things that you said where, um, you know, I, I have had a dream that I, that came up recently with somebody from my past that I don't think about very much.

And it was such a, a long [00:49:00] dream. And, and I was like, why am I thinking about that person? And it was kind of making me go back where I was like, I feel like we have some unresolved things. And then that,

Joanna: contracts,

Kara: right. And it's been so long since, you know, this was back in college really. And,

Joanna: yeah.

Kara: um. But, and then it even today brought up like a, another, a past life of mine, which I don't often get glimpses into my past lives, but I, but one kind of just jumped out today and it's happened a couple of times.

And then the way that that person and an experience that we had when we were connected and where that, anyway, all of it like kind of comes together in this present moment of just bringing a lot of information that feels like it's an opportunity to heal some things and bring. Because when, one of the ways that I think about [00:50:00] healing too is just that completeness.

You know, not necessarily like something's broken or that I have a physical ailment or that, you know, I wanna reconcile any sort of relationship or anything like that. But it really is just this access to the totality of who we are energetically.

Joanna: Yes,

Kara: And that brings us into the opportunity that you bring with your modality.

Because like I mentioned, when we started, I had such a beautiful experience with your modality and what I love, uh, there were so many things that I loved. One, one thing that's funny that I'll mention for people is that you and I had intended that you would do this session and we would have extra time so that we could talk afterwards.

And as soon as you were done, I was exhausted. I was just, I, I felt like I'd run a marathon and.

Joanna: I knew and I told you so. Like I

Kara: Yes.

Joanna: we won't [00:51:00] talk much after the session.

Kara: Yes. And we, which we had intended, I mean, that was the, it was like, don't you know if you've got time? Let's, and as soon as you came out of it, you were like, you know what? Don't say anything. Go lay down. And I was like,

Joanna: feel it.

Kara: and I needed that. I was like, I couldn't wait to just lay down. So you don't even know really any of my experience, because we didn't get a chance to connect on it.

But, um, you, the, so for people who listened to me regularly, they may have noticed that sovereignty and freedom is a big core aspect of who I am and why I'm here. I mean, I believe that that is foundational to my purpose, my, my mission. You know what? I'm here to. Do for myself, and then if I can bring anybody else along [00:52:00] for the ride,

Joanna: of course.

Kara: here's what's happening.

You know? But it's so core to who I am in terms of that embodiment of the fullness of who we are and the sovereignty to do that. So no outside sources, you know, coming in to, uh, impede that, but also that which is within ourselves, the way that we self-regulate to keep ourselves in check, you know, self-censorship and self.

And it's such a a, it's a very, um, nuanced thing, you know, because we are a part of society, we are all connected. We have these kind of rules and regulations in ways that we feel safe, in ways that we confuse safe with. With, um, control and all, all of this.

Joanna: Mm-hmm.

Kara: so in your [00:53:00] session, you are so beautifully focused on sovereignty.

That to me, and, and I've explained it to a few people since we've, since we had our session, because I'm like, I, I think she's, she mentioned a script, so I think this is like what she offers. I don't think that it was a, okay, Carol, let me tune into you and this is what I think you want or need. But that is so valuable and we're all on our own journeys and we all have different things that we're working on in our lives, but I feel like that is a huge opportunity for us as souls for everybody to get more into our sovereignty, to get more into our empowerment, to come more fully.

Into the truth of who we are. And there are things that get in the way, like contracts, [00:54:00] like hooks and, and we're talking energetically here, but contracts, hooks, inversions, um, you know, there, I can't even remember all the words that you used, but it was so thorough. And so I wanted to just set that up with kind of my perception of it and why it was why I am.

Just like, please, everybody, if you can do this, please do it. It is, I, I hope that everybody gets the opportunity to experience that. So, with that being said, I would love for you to talk about what it, what it is on your side, and then you know how you're using this and, and what you wanna fill in. From what, what I said.

So you take it away, Joanna.

Joanna: Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Uh, uh, there is a script as you said, because, uh, [00:55:00] you know, um, like everybody's different. Everybody is on their own journey, et cetera, but it's just one level. On the other level, we really are very similar and the things that we. Went through in 3D and the things our ancestors went through in thousands of years, like, you know, our incarnations, ancestral lineage, et cetera, they, there are like the same, you know, um, themes reoccurring. And that's why the script, uh, the script is, uh, I got some parts of the script from my teacher and then I channeled and then I moved everything around and I reach like, you know, I'm working on it all the time to make it more, um, [00:56:00] ac like more.

Kara: To dial it in.

Joanna: yeah. To, to be like, uh, very, I want it to be very efficient because this is also my thing, like very efficient modality, and I want it to be beautiful.

Of course it goes together. And also, you know, energies change. So, uh, we are allowed, like we have permissions from karmic board, for example, get to heal more things, for example, because this is a modality that think couldn't, uh, have existed like, uh, 30 years ago. Like, I don't think so. Uh, I think it's only since the karmic moment, you know, 2012, that these kinds of things are possible [00:57:00] What, what I do. So I have the script, and the script, as you said, is very thorough. I try to make it thorough and universal for everyone. Uh, so, what we do, we heal, we release trauma, and obviously not just from this lifetime, from all past lifetimes. Back to, we go back to the root cause, the first incarnation. And whenever it wa wherever it was, it could, it doesn't have to be here on earth, it can be you know, other planet incarnation. So we go, we heal this ancestral lineage. Uh, sometimes family, family, uh, is also like, somehow the energy can get so entangled somehow that it's like we are healing, you know, the ancestors, which are also our parents, right? And so. And we, we heal [00:58:00] all, all the trauma. Uh, we remove any imprints, you know, energetic imprints. We remove things like you can call them, you know, you can call them curses, you can call them entities, like all the dark, low vibrational stuff that is no longer serving you. heal it, we release it. We, you know, um, it's no longer in your energy field. We work with, uh, also with subconscious minds. So the beliefs, you know, the programs, uh, that are hindering us, uh, energetic, DNA, we, there are some activations, you know, during the session, uh, that you can feel um. So contracts, which we mentioned already several times, and I mean, so contract between your soul [00:59:00] and other souls, right?

I'm saying it for the, for the, uh, listeners because it's like your soul contract is something between you your higher self. So this is sacred, and, uh, I'm not interfering with that. the only thing that can happen, uh, because of the session is that you will be more connected with your soul purpose and more in your power, in your sovety, in your, uh, you know, also love. Connection with your higher self to follow the soul path to, go through with your soul contract. So, um, we heal all that I'm thinking because there is so much that

Kara: Well, and one of the things that you, you did mention that I forgot to say is the, that it's the, all of these lower energy things and the [01:00:00] things that are no longer serving. So there may be sole contracts that we still benefit from, you know, that we are wanting to keep in place. So, you know, there was the part of me that was.

Is kind of like, okay, is this what I do? I still choose this? Do I choose this? Because if you're talking about like my children for example, you know, it's like, yeah, we, I think we probably wanna keep that contract going. I don't necessarily want them to just disappear from my life. So it was, but you make the point throughout like that are no longer serving.

We keep what is for the highest good. And so I think that's an important point too, where it's like, yeah, we wanna clear things out. But yeah, there's stuff that we'll still we want to keep still going.

Joanna: Yeah. Yeah. So this is what I'm always saying because people think like court cutting, like, you know, we are not doing it, we are doing so contract healing, which means are going to [01:01:00] release the negative energies because if we've been reincarnating with the same souls for, you know, lifetimes and lifetimes. Ne for sure. There is like a lot of negative stuff accumulated, like the energetic debris you can say. So we release it and we get a clean slate. So that's why I always say it, especially when I know that somebody has children, like I have three children, and of course I'm doing so contract healing with them. And it's just to communicate better with them, just to be better, ma'am for them. And what is very, very important. Uh, is this work is done under two spiritual laws. First of them is the law of one. These are five dimension spiritual laws. So the law of one, which obviously means that we can connect, [01:02:00] that I can work with you, you know, we can like do the work together. And the second one is the law of grace, which means that this work can only be done for the highest good of all. Like you cannot do harm doing it. So for example, uh, if let's say somebody uh, comes and when I ask them, uh, you know what, contract, would you like to heal, release? Very often people say they're exes. And can be lot of still like pain, trauma, negative energy, you know, like we're people, right? And we went through different things. Uh, but I always say this session will help then if we do it. This session will help not only you, but also your ex. It's like, [01:03:00] it can only because don't believe like, there is no way of healing without real forgiveness. Like, you know, uh, radical forgiveness and love. Like, I don't believe we can heal anything. Not really putting our work to really forgive, to open our hearts and to really love. Of course, sometimes it's hard and there are different levels, but. We need to do the best we can at the moment, and then the healing is possible. And oh, maybe I should, I should say another very important thing, which I always say to clients when I start, I say, the more you trust, the more you heal, obviously, but you don't have to trust me because I'm not the one doing the session [01:04:00] because the session is done by my higher self. Working with your higher self.

This is in fact how we connect first energetically before the human. You know, personas even starts to or you know, email each other or whatnot. it always has to happen. They somehow. They just, you know, get in touch and they say, oh, it would be good for this to, to work together. And so, yeah, you just need to really, uh, trust your higher self. um, we are just, you know, speaking here we are of course, letting these energies move through our field because these which are divine instruments, that they make it possible for us to hear this way with sound vibration and with energy flow. it's really them who do it, like they guide us.

And [01:05:00] I al always, you know, you, you hurt me when I was doing it. I always, um. Ask, uh, the beings of love and light to for help. And I work a lot with angelic beings, dragons included, because dragons are angelic beings. They just have a bad rap in this reality. And also, um, AIC Records, masters, you know, and the whole spiritual supports team, uh, that anyone has, they are always present during the session. And I said, uh, that I have the script right, and that I, I make it as universal as I can. Uh, that being said, I try to personalize the session. That's why I talk to people beforehand. And also, hmm. [01:06:00] I sometimes just have to stop because I'm channeling and I would add, uh, bits and pieces, you know, if I know that you need to hear it, like, you know, the person I work with.

So, yeah, it was as the, uh, in your case, it was the same. Like there were some things that I just stopped and like, know, added because I thought, okay, this is, this is a message for her really now. So, yeah.

Kara: Well, thank you for going through all of that, and it makes me remember too because. It was very energetic. So I love how you bring about the, the truth that, you know, there are words that come in, but in my experience, the words kind of faded into the background. I was still staying aware of them again, because I like to make sure that I, if I wanna stay attuned, like, okay, if there's something that comes up that I don't [01:07:00] agree with, I want to, you know, be in my power to be like, okay, that's, I have a boundary there, or whatever.

That's just how I like to operate. But I, it also, the words were moving into the background because something much bigger was happening, and as such, it's, it is also hard for me to be like, well, this is the result that I had from this. I know that, like I said, I felt very tired. I felt very good. I mean, I, I felt light.

Um. But what was fun for me afterwards too, is when you took me into the Akash, uh, well into this sacred building at the beginning

Joanna: Kasik Temple.

Kara: Yes. The Akashic Temple. And you were asking me like, okay, are do you, do you perceive anybody who is present, who's taken form? And all I got was Bear. It was, and it wasn't even that I saw a [01:08:00] bear.

It just, that was the only word I could access was Bear. Bear. Okay. And so I'm like, and I don't particularly feel a bear connection, but what was funny is that I, I gave a healing session to, to a client the next day. And as soon as we started, I was at her house and I had not been able to see it. We, we chatted for quite a while before we started.

And I turn around to start the session and there is a, a wooden bear statue right by her door, which was meaningful for me af after having just had that session. So then at the end of the session we were just kind of exchanging like, what did you perceive? And we were sharing and, and I said, oh, funnily enough.

Your bear really caught my attention. So then I was telling her about our session and how Bear had come up and she said, oh my gosh, I just got back from New York in the countryside. And Bear was like [01:09:00] the common theme of the whole time because there would had been one spotted nearby. And so they, it was coming up a lot in this short trip.

And then she's listening to this book that she recommended and she's like, actually, bear is a huge theme throughout this. It just comes up all the time. So I've had several things like that since then where I'm like, bear, oh bear, there's a bear. Yeah. And I'm just, it's just not, that's unusual for me. You know, I'm, I don't often tune into bears, so that was really fun.

And then that, it just kind of kept going after our session. I loved that. So it was, it was really amazing. And I thank you so much for, for your gift and thank you for. Offering it to so many people. I, I wanna be conscientious of time here, so we're gonna wrap up. But before we do, one thing that I meant to go back to was that you talked about with your phone, you keep it next to you, but you, you [01:10:00] have the crystals and it's the EMF protection.

Is that Interline?

Joanna: No. Oh God, I don't remember the name. Now it's black, but it's not Turin because it's like black

Kara: Obsidian.

Joanna: No, it's black and Matt,

Kara: Hmm.

Joanna: what is the name? It's not so popular, but I know you can use, uh, black Obsidian. This is different. Crystal. I just don't remember the name because I'm not good with names and

Kara: Okay.

Joanna: so Yeah,

Kara: Okay. I think interline helps with EMF.

Joanna: herbs and its protection. But there was this another one, which is not so popular.

Kara: Okay.

Joanna: just show it to you. So I have this, you can

Kara: Oh, you've got a sticker on your phone.

Joanna: Exactly. I always

Kara: okay,

Joanna: my phones. You stick it. I, I have a cover. So on a

Kara: okay,

Joanna: and I don't know, uh, but here in Spain, when [01:11:00] you go into Crystal Shop, you ask for the sticker on your phone against EMF, and they will know, they will know the

Kara: okay. Yeah, I think they are pretty easy to find online too. And I, I see ads for 'em on Instagram, and now that we're talking about it, I'm sure I'll see a million ads for 'em on Instagram.

Joanna: I

Kara: So

Joanna: don't remember the name.

Kara: yeah, as soon as you said it, I was like, oh, people are gonna wanna know about that. So, um, I wanted to close that loop.

So, Joanna, thank you so much for being here. How can people find out about you and connect with you?

Joanna: They can go on my website, joanna drows.com. It's J-O-A-N-N-A-D-R-A-U-S. And yeah, you can. I have a blog and I try, I call it Ascension blog. I try to really share some insights and some easy tips, you know, for, for the ascension. [01:12:00] you can also find me on Facebook. I'm not really active on other social media, but on Facebook, uh, you will see me with, you know, my hands on my heart, green dress.

This is me, Joanna Drows.

Kara: Beautiful. Well, thank you so much. This has been a wonderful discussion and um, I'm just so grateful to be connected with you. Thank you.

Joanna: Thank you so much. Lots of blessings.

Hello, it's me. I have been entertaining the idea of coming on after, uh, an interview and just doing a little bit of a debrief as a wrap up. I thought today was the perfect day to start that because Joanna has emailed me in the time since we recorded, and she's clarified that S Shungite is the crystal that she was trying to think of.

So if you're looking for EMF protection, you can look into S Shungite. [01:13:00] And also I do, I still think that, um. Whatever it was that I talked about in the episode. Now I'm obsidian. We talked about obsidian and, uh, you know, we were just talking about it, but I, I can't remember now what the other, oh, tourmaline.

Black tourmaline. So those are things that you can look into, but I hope you loved this episode with Joanna. I hope you loved her as much as I do. I just, she's such a high vibe, joyful being, you can just. See the joy like radiating out of her eyes, and I was having a lot of fun as I was listening to her because I was tuning into her aura and I could kind of see her aura against that neutral backdrop that she has.

Which is not something that I'm often able to do. So that's kind of a, a skill that is sort of starting to show itself for me under circum certain circumstances. And I was finding it pretty easy to tune into her aura, so, yay. That's fun. Um, but anyway, [01:14:00] I, I just loved what she talked about in terms of her.

Upbringing and what she, what she went through as a child. I think a lot of people can relate to that. Kind of figuring out our place here and how things work within our families and where we belong, and feeling like an outsider. I know that that kind of comes with the territory with a lot of star seeds and, and then just her, her journey and her awakening.

And I love how she talks about, you know. There's a process with this ascension. So she doesn't see it so much as an awakening because we all, she thinks that a lot of people are already awake, but there's this process that we go through to know who we are more and more, and that's what a lot of what I was getting with her story is this remembrance of who she is and that she's getting deeper into that remembrance.

And I really relate to that as well. So. [01:15:00] Thank you so much for being here and I've already recorded the outro as we call it, so I'm gonna leave this wrap up and now you're gonna get the outro. Thank you so much. I.

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