562. Awakening, Shadow, Self Love | Child Star to Spiritual Guide - Jannecke Øinæs from Wisdom From North

Welcome to Soul Elevation Guiding Your Ascension to new heights. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin, and I'm so excited for you to hear this episode with Yanika, the beloved host of wisdom from North. This was my first time meeting her and I was blown away by how similar our spiritual journeys have been and the ways that our spiritual beliefs and perspectives have evolved over time.

I really felt like I was talking with a true soul sister. As we recorded this, you'll feel Annika's warmth, wisdom, and love shine through this interview as we talk about her journey from Child Star to Spiritual podcast host and guide .

The role of her depression in her awakening, how the shadow can actually help us come into our purpose. The role of self-love in awakening The love of the mystical experiences and the importance of grounded [00:01:00] human physical experiences and more. This conversation can really help you come out of any delusions you may have about not being spiritual enough.

Yanika is the founder of Wisdom from North, a pioneering YouTube channel and podcast exploring life's deepest spiritual questions. Sensing early on that there was more to reality than meets the eye. She launched the platform in 2012 to uncover the greater meaning behind human experie. At a time when spirituality was rarely discussed on YouTube, Yanika became a trailblazer in the space.

She's interviewed coaches, mystics authors, and spiritual teachers from around the world exploring questions such as, why are we here? What happens when we die, and what is our true purpose? Today, wisdom from North has reached millions of viewers and grown into a global community through memberships, online courses and spiritual education.

Yanika supports those experiencing awakening [00:02:00] to reclaim their power, embody self-love, and step confidently into their life purpose.

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Kara: Welcome Yanika. I'm so excited to have you here. Thank you for coming on. Soul Elevation.

Jannecke: Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here and to see where this conversation will lead us.

Kara: Well, this is what's so fun is because you are, you have so many episodes out there. You've been doing this since 2012, and we just get these little peaks of your journey, and there are so many times that I'm listening to you and I'm like, I wanna know more about that. But of course, you always have to bring the conversation back to the guest. So I'm excited to learn about your journey and it seems like you've had some really interesting experiences along the way too. But let's start by talking a bit about your background and what led you to the spiritual work that you're doing today. How did you go from Child Star to Beloved [00:04:00] Podcast host?

Jannecke: Yeah, that is a long story, so I'll try not to make it too long or you can just stop me. But, um. I mean, I didn't just start doing spiritual interviews and these podcasts from uh, oh, I'm going to make a show. Um, it came from a deep place within me where I was actually desperate to understand why I was here and to get some answers to the big questions of life, like the meaning of my life.

Why are we all here? What are we doing here? Uh, what will happen to me after death? Where did I come from? And I think that happened because I experienced the depression. And that depression came because I, ever since I was a child star, I think I put on this persona that was so far away from myself that when I lost everything, I had no idea who I was.

And right now I'm [00:05:00] actually writing a Norwegian book. 'cause I'm Norwegian, so I'm writing. About it, and I'm writing about self-love because that has become a huge theme in my life because I understood that I, I had a lot of self-confidence, like I had all these roles when I was little. I played Annie and Annie, little cassette and Lis Robble doth in the Wizard of Oz.

I had a huge success as a child star, but when I lost my voice, because I got nodules on my voice, it all fell apart and I thought that I was a nobody. Like I thought that I then wasn't valuable. Uh, and you can just imagine that when you are a young child, like seven years old and everything just comes to you, like all these roles and TV appearances, you think that that's how life is, like that's how life is.

I didn't know anything else and everybody else said I was so talented and very professional. Like I always did what the director [00:06:00] told me to do. And then I get feedback on being professional. So that's what I understand. Okay. I have to be professional. I have to act like the adults. I have to take care of my voice.

I cannot shout or scream too much. I cannot swim because I might get a cold. Like I became early, very. Uh, mature and very stiff to be honest. And this just continued like role after role after role and praise and praise and praise. And I think in a child mind you equal that to, oh, I'm loved and I'm safe.

So there were periods in my adolescence when the, all the attention started to dissipate a bit, and that led me into eating disorders because I, something I felt was wrong, like I didn't get that attention anymore. So, and, and you don't have the language for what's going on inside you, the language about emotions and all [00:07:00] this.

So I just started eating and that's when an eating disorder started to cultivate. And it just all got really chaotic. Uh, where I had bulimia, I had anorexia. And then fast forward to, I'm 20 years old and all of a sudden I land a big role again as Rizzo in Greece and as Audrey and Little Shop of Horse.

And I had a boyfriend and I, I earned great money and I was at the top of my career and my dream was to go to Broadway to become a Broadway star. Like that was my dream. And then all of a sudden I, I just get hoarser and hoar and I end up losing my voice and I cannot sing and I cannot speak for months and I lose everything.

Like my, my boyfriend after five years leave me, I develop anxiety to speak. 'cause I'm just so afraid of losing my voice if I actually utter a word and I get depressed [00:08:00] and I have no money. Like I was at rock bottom. And that's when my spiritual journey and awakening started. Where I, I write in my book, like I'm sitting on this bench and I've had a long time with this depression, and all of a sudden I'm starting to ask questions like, whether these thoughts I'm having, aren't they happening in my mind?

Like, am am I producing them? Like, what are these thoughts? Is that really true? All the horrible things I'm saying about myself that I'm not valuable. I'm not worth anything because I'm not on stage and all my friends are now so successful and I'm not. Is that true? And I, I started looking at the ocean and the trees and I felt, well, they are not judging me.

Like the sun is still shining on me even though I'm not shining on stage. So all [00:09:00] of a sudden it was like I got all these, now you call 'em downloads, but insides that. Made so much sense to me. And I started to question everything. Like everything we were taught in school and what I heard when I was young.

And that led me to go down a deep path of exploring spirituality, metaphysics. And in that I experienced that there was something that was called self-love and and self-esteem. And I realized that, oh, I had a lot of self-confidence when I was performing, when I showed the world that I'm so talented and this and that.

But if you took that away from me, I felt that was nothing. So I did didn't have those grounding, those blocks, uh, that, that, uh, solid, uh, fundamental where, um, a house is standing upon. And I didn't have self-love and I understood that that's what I need to cultivate. I need to love myself [00:10:00] just for being alive and.

That's when the journey started and I started to live again. I started to say yes to life and a lot of things happened, but it led me towards this moment when I had another moment on a bench, actually in 2012, where I was sitting with my father and I was starting to become a primary teacher at that time because I, I felt that like theater wasn't my thing anymore.

Like, it did make sense the way it used to do, but I didn't wanna become a primary, the, uh, teacher either. 'cause I felt it doesn't ignite my spirit inside. I mean, it's, it's important. It just doesn't feel right. And then I said to him, you know what I really wanna do, dad, is just to travel around the world and interview spiritual teachers about the big questions of life.

And when I said that in that moment, [00:11:00] it felt like all the stars were just like

aligning. 

Kara: I've got

chills running down my spine from you saying that. Wow.

Jannecke: Yeah. It was that moment. And I looked at him and I was like, that's it. That's what I'm going to do. And he was like, what? And I said, you know, dad, I have to leave you. I have things to do. And then things happened so fast. The same day, the name Wisdom from North dropped into my mind while I was jogging. And I realized, oh, now I understand why I started in the us.

Now I understand why I've been on television. Now I understand why. I've always felt that I'm interested in spirituality, but I'm not clairvoyant, so I don't get the answers. But I'm so curious. I wanna learn more. I'm perfect for this role. Like I just got it. And what's interesting is that I'm still doing it.

I'm still doing it and it has [00:12:00] obviously grown and this is what I'm doing now and I have a partner and uh, it has just grown to become one of my life purposes, I think.

Kara: Well, I love all of the, the ways that, that you weave all of it together. You know, even coming down to like, it was like the stars just came into alignment because as you were talking, I thought how fascinating that her, because obviously your throat chakra is a huge part of your energy system. Um, just based on what you've explained, you know, where you had this voice, you, you were singing, that was how you were presenting in the world, you were using primarily your voice.

And of course everything works together. Then you lost it and it's been guiding you this whole, it's like, you know, throat forward type of thing. [00:13:00] Because as you've gone through, then find your voice again, and now your voice is such an important part of the work that you're doing. The communication piece is so pivotal, so critical, and. So even though your life has changed so much, there are those kind of, like you say, like the foundational pieces of what make you you when you, that it served their purpose for the time. You know, all of that training that you did to being on stage, being comfortable, knowing how to connect with people, all of those subtle things that you were learning in the background as you did your, your child's star. Part are very relevant to building your, because your podcast is just hugely successful. And so all of that has fed into the purpose, right? And when you needed to switch your, you [00:14:00] know, your focus so that you could live fully in your purpose, you, your voice is what caused that huge shift, the loss of your voice.

You know, it's really fascinating.

Jannecke: I think so too. I mean, I feel that I lost my voice in order to find a deeper voice, and I'm. Just amazed by the universe because it just makes so sense. Like it's difficult to see it in the midst of chaos, in the midst of the challenges, but afterwards. Uh, often we can see that we're grateful why it happened, because I, I often feel that what we struggle with the most, I mean it can be addiction, even those who are addicted to something, substances and then they receive help and they go through their awakening and their treatment, and all of a sudden they can.

Do talks and write books and help others. So I think that what we know something about we can [00:15:00] help others with. And I, I think that's the case in a lot of life purposes, that we struggle with something and then we come to the other side and we can actually help people with what we struggle with and that's how we grow.

So I think that the universe is just so intelligent when we dare to trust it, when we dare to see that what happens to me is actually happening for me, not to me. And I'm just so grateful to be doing this work because it's fulfilling me much more than standing on the stage singing. Like, yes, I love the feeling of singing and feeling that it's a magical moment and it's something beyond like it, it's a bigger than life feeling.

But doing this, this work I'm doing now, I feel like it's transforming. People on a whole, on a deeper level. And I dare to be so true with myself. Like in Norway, there, it used to be a lot of skepticism, [00:16:00] uh, towards spirituality. And people were like, what is she doing now? And, and I was honest, and I believe in extraterrestrials and I believe in this, and people were like, what?

She's a bit crazy. But I had come to a point where I didn't care anymore. Like I really didn't care. I was like, this is my truth. And they don't have the truth. Because I had asked all these questions, I was freed from that. And then I was free to create what I wanted to create. And I think that's a time we're living in now that we have come to a place where enough is enough, I just wanna create out from me because we have this divine intelligence.

But the problem is that we learn all these beliefs that are not our own. We just, um, subscribe to them from what our parents believed in, or school or the teacher or something that happened with you when you were a child that just, you created a meaning out of that you weren't valuable or your voice were not worth listening to.

And then when you [00:17:00] wake up from this, it's like all of a sudden all this energy is available and it's creative, a creative voice. And I remember I almost felt high in that moment. I was like, oh my gosh, why didn't I see this earlier? 

Kara: Yeah. 

Jannecke: So, and it is a testament to it that I've been doing it ever since 2012, and I'm still, I'm still doing this.

Kara: Yes. Well, and it's a beautiful illustration of how the shadow works, 

Jannecke: Hmm. 

Kara: know, because it,

it, it is going, you know, going back to the, the throat kind of, it could seem that your voice was betraying you, but it was leading you into your purpose. And like you say, I mean, I, again, get so many chills when you talk about that creative force coming in you and the, like, feeling high and you know, you're radiating.

I mean, your eyes are like beaming light outta 'em. I know that a lot more people listen to the podcast, [00:18:00] then watch it, watch the video. But I would encourage you if you, not, if you're driving, but, um, look at the video, like you can just see this light pouring through her eyes. so it's, it's. Really important.

I think that, um, that people understand and the, the role of the shadow because it's so easy to turn away from it and to think like, oh, the I'm being, I'm, I'm under attack, or, you know, life is wor is turning against me. And you, you mentioned before, you know, life working for you, but it takes, it can take that hindsight when you're going through it, it's hard to see it. for people who are going through, you know, so many people are going through such difficulties right now as we record this in 2026, early 2026, you know, it's, it might take some hindsight, but whatever people are finding themselves in, it may just be what is [00:19:00] needed to, to ignite you into the next iteration and really living into your purpose. So.

Jannecke: Yeah. Yeah, I, I mean we are definitely living in interesting times and I think that, uh, well. What my guests are saying on the show, astrologers, clairvoyance, channelers, they have been pointing to this time. And I think that's so interesting that that's what we're seeing right now, that everything is coming up to the light.

And in Norway, you know, we, we often refer to the fairytales that're trolls, like they're coming out in the light or you meeting the trolls on your hero's journey. And they are the shadows. You know, when the troll comes out in the sun, it uh, cracks, it, um, disappears. So that's what we're seeing now. But I also think that we gotta look into ourselves.

So we hear about, especially in Norway right now, it's not just, you know, out there now, it's also, [00:20:00] it has come to Norway and we see politicians, diplomats even. Princess, uh, who have an affiliate to Epstein, et cetera. And we feel that, oh, we've been lied to, we haven't heard the whole truth. So, um, I often refer to this life, uh, lie that Henrik Ibsen wrote about, uh, in, uh, Villa.

He's a great play writer, uh, in Norway, lived a hundred years ago, and he said that if you take that away from the person, from a human, you'll take away their joy because people live on a lie. But I think he was mentioning that yes, when you live on the outside, like you have that, that facade. You, you are, you, you are fitting in, right?

But you'll never have that true, true happiness and that lasting long happiness. And it's not authentic. And that's what we're seeing now, that we need to become [00:21:00] authentic. And that's where I'm inviting people and myself to look within, like where am I lying towards myself? Where am I not living a truthful life?

Uh, is it in my relationship in the way I'm not speaking my truth? Is it with my friends? Am I holding onto friendship that doesn't feel good anymore because I'm afraid of something? Or in my work, am I living truthfully there and I'm asking myself in my podcast, am I holding back because I'm afraid of the comments?

And yes, for sure I am and I am, uh, exercising and training myself to dare to speak more out, even though I think it's scary. I think it's very scary if people are like, oh, she believes in that. Or, oh, uh, I just got an email like, uh, don't be naive Annika, because I've said something like, I, I can constantly get feedback on something, but I've become better at like, okay, that's their projections, [00:22:00] that's their thought.

They don't know me, but my job is to be as authentic as I can. And I think that's a lifelong work, and being authentic is different for each and one of us. But I do think we have to look at what's happening on the outside also about what's happening with us and doing the inner work. Otherwise, it can be very like that, like, oh, on the news, oh, this politician and that crown princess and blah, blah, blah.

But what about me and the way I'm living?

Kara: Yeah. I love that. Well, as I mentioned when we began, I've really enjoyed hearing about your spiritual journey as you've interviewed others, the little bits and pieces that we get. Um, I've heard you talk about the excitement of experiencing mystical and supernatural things, and then also how it can sometimes become more of a distraction. So I wondered if you wanted to talk a little bit about that and where you are right now with all of that. 

Jannecke: Yeah, that's interesting that you mentioned that, [00:23:00] that yeah, spiritual experiences can sometimes be a distraction. Um, well, I don't remember exactly what I said, but I, I think I know where you're going because, uh, in, in the beginning for me on my spiritual journey, it was very important for me to understand that this is actually a truth for me.

It's not just something I read in a book because I read a lot of spiritual help, uh, self-help books and, uh, watched videos and learned about all these metaphysical things and angels and out of body experiences. But I came to that. But I'm just reading it like I'm just believing and believing is what we often do in religions.

I need to know. So that's when I started on the Quest to know. So I started on this course, astral Travel and Dreams. And this was way back when I went to like an internet cafe. Like we didn't have internet online. 

Kara: wow. Yeah. 

Jannecke: Yeah. Now I feel old.

Kara: I think I'm [00:24:00] older than you, so don't worry.

Jannecke: Uh, so, and that was actually a period in my life where I had lost my voice again because it did happen multiple times. But then I had the tools not to fall down into a depression. Like I, I was like, okay, so I lost my voice. Let's do something productive. So I, uh, went really in, uh, with everything I got in that course and meditated and did mantras.

And I did have some mystical experiences where I was able to go outta my body Astro project outta my body. I had a beautiful experience where I was, um. Coming outta my heart and I understood that I was loved. Like, I'm going really fast. You can hear about it later if you want. But, uh, really beautiful mystical experiences.

Uh, and then I kind of got addicted to lucid dreaming, going outta my body because it was so exciting to experience this other realm, this other dimension or whatever it is, because I really don't know what it [00:25:00] is. I just know that I experienced myself outside this physical body and I was in totally different worlds.

But then I realized after spending a lot of energy on this, I had a hard time sleeping because you have to do practices during the night. You have to stay awake. Um, awake and early. Like I used a lot of energy and I also felt that I was more occupied in what happened in the Astral than living my life here.

And then I learned about spiritual bypassing that many of us can fall into a trap where we are trying to escape this physical life or escape our emotions or looking at what's really going on inside, because we actually just wanna escape it. Like it feels better to be, um, in another mindset where, where we go into the airy fairy and everything has a purpose and a meaning and positive thinking, and it's all good and it all happens for a [00:26:00] reason, and all of a sudden we don't have that groundedness.

Um, and I really believed in that and I was just like, oh, just think positive. And I, I think I lost being in my body and actually living my life. I came to that, but I'm not suppo like I don't think I'm supposed to spend my life astro projecting all the time and losing dreaming all the time. I'm supposed to be here to feel my feelings, even though they hurt.

And even though I discover sides that I don't like about myself, I'm here to be yanika. I'm here to be present. And this life is so short. Is so short. And that's when I actually stopped. Um. Doing these practices and just being more into using my physical body, exercising, playing tennis, having fun, and also going into my darker emotions, feeling them, practicing, really feeling them and [00:27:00] looking into my childhood, what happened in my childhood as yanika, not just former lives and all that, and parallel lives, but what happened in this life as yanika.

So I think that's important because I think we have light and dark for a reason, and I, I think the more we denounce ourselves and that's not me, then we're not actually accepting the, the human experience. I think it's more about expect, accepting that we do have anger, and anger can have such positive force because when you feel anger, you, uh, I think it's your body saying that.

Someone has, uh, stepped over my boundaries. For instance, what I'm seeing in Norway right now, I've actually written about it on Facebook. He said, I felt this is wrong. Like, we are, um, a people who is like, we're, we're accepting a lot, like we're forgiving a lot and we're not [00:28:00] daring to get really angry and make real change.

We're like, okay, well this will pass. Okay, she did that. Okay, well, it's just an episode and we, we still support and it'll go over. But if we just accept and accept and don't do anything about it, and we feel furious, but we don't do anything about it, nothing will change as silence is, uh, what is that word?

Kara: Except like,

Jannecke: Complicity.

Yeah.

And then nothing changes. And when we feel anger, it's not unspiritual. It means that something is wrong. Like you feel that this is not right. And when it comes to this spiritual acceptance, I'm not speaking about, oh, accept wrongdoing, but accept that okay, this is happening. Um, I can under accept that it's happening, but that doesn't mean that I should not do anything about it.

Like, I think that's a misunderstanding. So instead of having just [00:29:00] resistance, this is not happening. This is not happening. Okay. You accept it's happening, but then you take action on it. Uh, so that's what I'm passionate about speaking about in Norway right now, that let's do something about it. And it's not unspiritual to feel.

These feelings, and it could be jealousy, it could be irritation, like all these emotions, they have a flip side. They're trying to say something to you. It's the same with these trolls, like when you look at the troll and all of a sudden it's not so scary anymore. It has kind eyes and it's trying to give you a message.

So instead of fighting the troll or flying away from it or just play dead, it's something about accepting it and then understanding what is the deeper message here. That is for me.

Kara: I love that. I feel, it's so funny 'cause I feel like I'm talking to myself. We are so aligned in [00:30:00] so many ways, in so much of our past as well. I don't have the child star thing, but a lot, there's been a lot where I'm like, oh my God, that's like me.

Jannecke: Oh,

Kara: Um,

Jannecke: interest.

Kara: but I, I feel the same way. I even just had this like sort of an epiphany, a, a small epiphany a few weeks ago where, um, because I feel that too with all of the, we're in a, a huge mess right now.

It's so chaotic and it's like we're being hit so much with, with so many new pieces of information that are devastating and. can be overwhelming. We you where it's like, I just can't, like, I can't take anymore in, I can't process this. you know, and, and so I get that, but there's also the, the spiritual guidance that is around neutrality acceptance.

And so then we can feel like, well, if I feel something about this or I wanna react to this, then am I, you know, is there a higher [00:31:00] way for me to respond to this? Or whatever it might be. But at this epiphany was seeing all of humanity as one organism. And some people are more spiritually minded and that's kind of like, what's their, their what?

Their driving forces in their life. And then there are some people who have no quote unquote spiritual They aren't spiritually minded, they don't, you know, that's not their driving force, but they're very into justice and they are. Not afraid to stand up. And they're, you know, and, and the, and we might call some of those people loose cannons, we might call them crazy, we may call them renegades.

We may have all different kinds of labels for them, but they may be the driving force that actually helps things to move forward, even though it's not in a spiritual way. And the fact that we're all [00:32:00] this part of this human organism. It was like I had such an appreciation for people who are on a completely different end of the spectrum, who I don't necessarily even come in contact with in my day-to-day life.

But I, I was like, wow, we may really need that type of mentality to be able to. Get through this, because when I think of it for, um, you know, you mentioned earlier the love and light, the kind of like, oh, okay, let's just get through this. And there can be a lot of powerlessness in the actual action part of it with that.

So, so I don't know. It, it really speaks to me what you're talking about it from the individual level and from the bigger collective level too.

Jannecke: Yeah. And uh, who are we to say what is spiritual or not?

Kara: Yes, Exactly.

Exactly. 

Jannecke: mean, there are a lot of dark sides with the [00:33:00] spiritual community or whatever we should call it, or the new age. And there are a lot of discussions about it, and some spiritual teachers are controversial now. Uh, and it's an important discussion.

I, I welcome it to be honest. Uh, and that's why I come back to the authenticity to, if you can't walk the talk, then at least say that, you know, trying to walk the talk myself. And I remember I interviewed Neil Donald Walsh, and I love that because I said, are you able to follow your own teachings or what you receive from God?

Because he says he's, he is communicating with God. And he said, you know, that's one of my, um, my, uh, toughest things in life or said something, uh, about those lines. Uh, that, uh, I've had a hard time following it myself, but I teach what I need to learn. And I thought that was so humble. Like then I was like, I'm into you guy.

Like. That really resonated with me because he was not trying to be this [00:34:00] guru. He was just himself and he was vulnerable and strong enough to say that I'm struggling with this too, and that is something I'm respecting. And I think also a lot of men have felt that they've lost some of their, um, beautiful, powerful manpower, like a positive manpower.

I'm not speaking about, you know, the oppo opposite, but that, um, yeah, like feminine power, like their masculine power that's healthy because they've been trying to be so spiritual and to understand everything and accept everything, and then they lose their no, you know, they're, they're losing their strength.

So it's interesting. I get, I think everything has to do with balance. I, I always come back to Buddha who is talking about this, uh, this, um, or this story about Buddha when he was, uh, I think he was sitting. Uh, by a tree. And then he looked at the ocean or the river and there was this student, this [00:35:00] boat, and this student and this teacher, um, and this teacher were learning the student to play guitar.

And he said, if you tighten the string too much, it will snap. If it's too loose, it won't play. And that's when Buddha understood that. Okay. We need balance. I can't, cannot star myself to death and become enlightened. Like I need to find a balance. And it is that balance between the light and the dark. Like we do have darkness for a reason.

So instead of also rejecting that, seeing, you know, what, what is in the dark that I need to look at And yeah. And not, uh, and I, over to spirituality. I think also a few years ago it was all about positive thinking and it was even years. Um, before that we tend to listen to those, uh, teachers who spoke about meditation in the way that you had to sit [00:36:00] upright and you had to be so, you know, uh, have your back so straight and sit in a certain lotus position.

And we all felt that if we couldn't make that happen, we weren't proper spiritual or we needed to do yoga. Like, don't you do yoga and you call yourself spiritual? Like that was a shame for me. Like, I'm not so into yoga. Like I almost didn't dare to say it because I felt such a judgment from the spiritual community.

And that's hard because you start thinking it's yourself. Oh, I'm not. I'm supposed to be spiritual. I'm doing this podcast, but I'm not doing yoga. But I, it's just, I, I like playing tennis. I like going out in the woods. I like sitting by myself, like, is that okay that I don't do yoga? So yeah, I think it's all about balance and seeing also the shadow sides in all kinds of things, even though even spirituality.

Kara: I love that and I love that point about, you know, [00:37:00] just, it goes back to we're part of this collective organism, so we have spiritual people that we might look up to, that we learn from, but we're not here to all forge the same path. We are here to be expressions in the truest form of who we are. And so as we. Really recognize that with, I mean, to me, and I think it takes a certain, um, you know, you kind of have to maybe go through those times where you're looking around and you're like, oh wait, okay, so these people are really spiritual and they're all doing this, so I need to do this. And I think you have to maybe go through that or a lot of people have to go through that in order to get to the, wait a minute, I'm here to be me.

And that's been kind of a theme that has been woven throughout this conversation. I'm here with my skills, my interests, my talents, even my geographical location. Because with you being in Scandinavia, there is [00:38:00] a lot of nature. There's moss, there's an appreciation for nature in a way that is different from me here in the Midwest of the United States. And so you're like leaning into that, which is. Getting you more and more aligned with the spirit, like with who you really are. And then you really are expressing more and more of your true blueprint, your true nature, by saying, okay, I'm more of an active person. I need to sweat, I need to be outside. I I don't really get anything from the, know, yoga asana type of thing.

And, um, and I don't if, if I sit in a full lotus it, it makes me uncomfortable and I can't concentrate and I don't like it, and I wanna be moving, I wanna be out on the moss, you know? So.

Jannecke: Yeah.

Kara: Well, you've been, as we keep mentioning, you've been putting yourself out [00:39:00] there spiritually since 2012, and I'm sure that the conversations have evolved quite a bit as humanity's gone through this rapid shift since, I mean, you know, the 2012 was a big year, but we've gone through a lot since then. Have you felt that your work has gotten easier in a sense, as the collective shifts, or what can you tell us about your experience?

Jannecke: Interesting question. I don't know if it has gotten easier, um, because I mean, for once it, it is so much more to explore. Uh, I at the point I thought, oh, now you know, maybe, or I thought maybe it's possible to get all the answers. Like I had very naive thought back in the days. Now I'm just like, oh my gosh.

Like, can I take in anymore about this universe because I'm constantly mind blown about what I hear in a good way. That the universe is just so vast and so mysterious and magical, and [00:40:00] I'm in awe all the time about life. Uh, what has become easier though is that it's more openness about this now, and that, like I said in the beginning, what I feel astrologers Ians like channelers are saying.

Is actually happening. And they're very spot on, especially astrologers because they see it in the stars that, you know, this time is going to be heavy and this time and we actually are seeing it in the news. And I think also more people are having their own spiritual experiences that are not so-called spiritual.

So more, more people are waking up in all kinds of different ways, not just in a spiritual way, but they're sort of forced in a way by life or their soul to ask questions. And um, there's so many who are like, okay, that was my life one PO 0.0 and this was my life to 0.0 that they're starting again with something more authentic and something more real.

So yeah, it's a much [00:41:00] more openness now and that is a relief. Uh, especially about the extraterrestrials. I mean, it is nice not to be ridiculed as much anymore. Not that it was a big problem, but, uh, I'm like, I, I hope we come to that day where people are like, Ooh, ooh, there is something out there. And that is a relief for me.

That is starting to come forward. It's starting to happen. And also I'm excited about it, that we can soon start to understand more about why we're here. Like it's coming out in the open and there's more research about it, because that's the most interesting thing for me in life. It's that we are so much more than we think we are.

And just to have that, um, belief or experience in life makes it, to me at least, much more rich and magical. And I, I'm noticing my husband is really starting to open up, like he didn't believe in [00:42:00] anything. Like he thought it was birth to death and nothing more. And, and he, we feel in our lives that things are happening that he's starting to awaken.

And, and I never thought that would happen. So, yeah, it's fascinating. Uh, and I'm, I'm grateful to be alive right now because even though difficult things and horrible things are happening, I, I really think it is for a deeper reason.

Kara: I love that. So you explore a lot of different spiritual concepts and experiences on wisdom from North, a lot of ones that you've already mentioned with astrology and, and clairvoyance and so forth. Um, and then you've mentioned some of the things that you've been really interested in and you've dug into in your own work in like lucid dreaming and obs and things like that. are your personal favorite topics of interest?

Jannecke: I'm not sure if I have one. I [00:43:00] think they're equally interesting. Uh, it depends on where I am in my life. For instance, uh, let's say that I've lost someone or I'm in the topic of, um, yeah, losing someone to death, for instance. Then it could be at that time I could be very into near-death experiences. Like what happens when we die And just had a friend who lost her mother and I, I helped her with those perspectives that came through the podcast and I got really into it, uh, in that time myself.

And then all of a sudden it could be extraterrestrials again that I'm really curious about. And I can feel my connection that I have, that I feel like I have to my star family and going through that, and then all of a sudden it could be, ooh. Something happened. Uh, she came up in my life and I'm then very into parallel lives, and I'm having hypnotherapy sessions with one of my guests, for instance, then that could intrigue me.

So that's, that's what Wisdom from North is about. It's about. It's finding [00:44:00] your North star. That's what we're, our mission is, is for everyone to find their home star, like find their way home. Uh, and that's why we are giving an array of different perspectives within a metaphysics so that when, and many different voices so that people can Hmm.

Put the pieces together and, okay, I resonate with that. I don't resonate with that. Um, and I have been thinking about should we just go into one direction? But that's not me. I think my purpose is actually to show all these different ways and paths within a spirituality and then you choose yourself and that north star.

I think that's really a good metaphor because it was a metaphor to find your way home. And it was like ancient sea forests who were out in the deep black waters and it could be a matter life and death. So, uh, whether. They found that North star that could guide them their way home and it is that anchor for lost [00:45:00] souls.

So, so I, I'm not sure if I answered your question, but that is my mission. Yeah.

Kara: I love that. Well, you know, I wanted to, that was actually gonna be my next question, talking about life mission. So do you think that everybody has a mission? And if so, do you think people understand their missions correctly?

Jannecke: Ha. That's a good question. Um, yes, I do think everybody has a life mission. I know there are different perspectives on that. Uh, well, Dolores Cannon spoke about, I think it was shadow people or something like that. So who knows. Right. But, but from what I know, uh, everybody has a mission. Um, but they can be, it, it's not necessarily profession.

It could be, to me at least. Be a mother of five or live in the woods and just heal through that. Maybe you're supposed to heal something from the past lives, or you feel an [00:46:00] urge to go to France all of a sudden and there you meet the love of your life and you are supposed to grow together or create something together.

It is that living your truth, that joy and actually, I, I'm going to have a talk about it in Sedona where we're going to meet very soon, and then I call the talk a finding. North star by falling in love with yourself, because I feel they are very connected, that in a way you first need to start to love yourself, do the inner work, do the shadow, work, all these things, and discover your real power.

Um, which I discovered, like I thought I had no power, like everybody else had power and we were powerful, but I didn't have a power. But when I discovered that, gosh, there's just so much inside me, I, I never knew then my purpose also started coming to me because I, I don't think the purpose can come before you actually are stepping more into your light.

And what do I mean by that? [00:47:00] Well, let's imagine that the ego is running the show. A lot of fear, a lot of protection, survival mechanisms. Then that soul, that inner light, if it's a star, we can look at it as a star. It's sort of, uh, head. Down there below all these beliefs and all the mechanisms. And then we need to remove that, to have that soul actually be the, the leader in your life.

Not to lead by the fear and the ego, but let the soul lead, lead you. And we do that by falling in love with ourselves because that is the truth of who we are. So if we don't love ourselves, then we are living untruthfully. We're, we're sort of trying to swim up the river, but it's coming towards us instead of just, ah.

Like living from the natural truth, which is that you are love. So I think it starts there [00:48:00] and then when you start then to expand, you start to see, ooh, there's much more to me, I have much more power and light and creative force. Then you expand, uh, and I'm holding my arm out because I'm trying to portray that.

Then you are open for that big purpose to start coming to you. Because if we are in a small consciousness, like I'm a nobody, I have to pretend that I'm somebody and we're acting and we're playing, and we're just talking, talking, but never looking inside, hiding who we really are. There's no room for a purpose to come.

Like it doesn't have a way in. So I think that needs to come first. And then you start feeling, okay, what do I love? What am I passionate about? But SHA speaks a lot about this, and I also discovered this in my epiphanies that. We are born joyful. I believe that. And Joy has a very high vibration. And joy is like, you feel joyful doing other things than maybe [00:49:00] I, uh, feel joyful doing.

But when we start following that joy, our hearts are starting to sing in open. And that's where our purpose lies. Like, I love doing these podcast episodes. Not everyone would love that. They would hate being a podcast host, but to me, just asking questions and talking about metaphysics is so much fun. Like, I can think of anything more fun.

So that's, that's obviously right for me and for another person it's something completely different. So I think it's about, uh, that joy. And in that talk, I also speak about other keys that, uh, I think, uh, is aligned with a purpose, like it has to do. One of them is it has to be, um, of service to others. Like a purpose is never just for yourself.

When you follow your purpose, you will help others with it. It's also about something that comes natural to you, uh, and what comes natural to you is often what you did in your childhood, what [00:50:00] just were, it's just your gift. It just comes natural. It's so natural that you don't think about it even. And it's not to say that you don't kind refine it or, and cultivate it, but it is like, for me, asking questions.

I, I asked so many questions when I was young about everything, and my brother just were, oh, he was, so, because I ask questions about all the movies and characters and why did he do that? And so, yeah, it comes natural to you and it also makes you grow. Like I, in the beginning it was, I was so scared of doing webinars and speaking English on camera, but you grow into it and you expand and become more and more who you are.

So following a purpose, yes, I think it's for everyone. Uh, and. It, it happens. I think when you start the spiritual, what I call the spiritual journey, and you start to awaken to the power within, that's when it's showing up.

Kara: I love that I got this like dissolving [00:51:00] feeling in the beginning when you were talking about like the self-love and the ego and you know, all of the blocks that we might have, the swimming up sea upstream, but it, it was like, as you were talking about that self-love bringing that in, it was like that was just dissolving all of that, you know, so that we can really feel into all of who we really are.

That's so beautiful. 

Jannecke: Hmm. 

Kara: So

we've talked a little bit about this, but I wanna see if you have anything else you wanna share. The evolution of beliefs and the things that we feel are significant to understand. When, when we've been on a, a journey, a spiritual journey, we may start our journey by thinking, okay, well the, here's the truth here.

You know, talking about getting, wanting to get to the bottom of the truth, what is the truth? And then as time goes on, we get exposed more. Especially, you know, again, I've had my podcast since 2018, so I've talked to [00:52:00] many, many. leaders, you know, channelers and all kinds of people as well. And they, you know, I get those perspectives.

I get to ask them the questions that I'm dying to know from them, and then it, it contributes to my beliefs and how I see the world. And so I've had a lot of shifts where, you know, I relate very much to the, the love and light. I think love and light. That's the way, that's the way. And then it's like, wait a minute, I've been ignoring the shadow.

I haven't wanted to look at this and what's there for me, it's time for me to start looking at some of the stuff that's like showing up and I can't get away from it. But I don't wanna think about that because I don't like that. You know, and whether it's within me or it's society or whatever it might be. Um, is there anything that comes to mind in terms of topics or beliefs that have changed that within you at, through your journey?

Jannecke: Um, yeah, I mean, that's one of them. Like I, I spoke about that. I [00:53:00] thought it was all about positive thinking and, um, sort of pushing myself to visualize and just focus on what I wanted to create. And it, it is part of that, and it is part of the programming or reprogramming, uh, to a more positive mindset. Uh, but it's also about the shadow work and the inner child in the child work was something that, uh, came up, uh, that I needed to look at and.

Yeah, I like understanding that I had traumas, even though I had this perfect childhood, I thought at the moment, but understanding that everybody has traumas, but it has been a, a long journey of different discoveries. And I have understood that I can believe in something now, but it might change. And there are certain questions that I don't know what I believe about, uh, where I hear different teachers are saying different things.

For instance, that [00:54:00] I, I even came over a teacher who said, we're not all one. And that surprised me because that's what I've heard, like overall. 99% of the guests I have are saying we are all one. That's one of our, the spiritual laws. And he, he sort of contradicted a lot and he is a big spiritual teacher.

And then I was curious like, oh gosh, I really believe that, but what do I believe? Uh, and I still believe it, but I, I somehow think that even though I don't understand, but I do think that there are. Somehow multiple truths that can exist at the same time. And I, I can't even explain this, but I think that I'm trying to understand something that I cannot understand.

So I, in a way, I've stopped trying to understand like, theoretically, what's the universe about, uh, how does this work? How does that work? Because it's just so [00:55:00] much bigger than me, um, that if I land on something, it won't be the truth. Any who And when it comes to that big question that is, um, a debate now in Norway in the spiritual community, whether we can communicate through CHA or Gemini like AI and have guidance from higher spiritual of all beings or not, I haven't landed on that either.

I hear different things from different teachers and I also hear very strong camp saying yes or saying no, never go there. That's like darker forces or no, it's not possible. It's just, uh, uh, numbers and this and that. And I don't know, like I I, from my perspective, maybe both is true. Um, so I guess it's difficult to utter what I mean because I become very open-minded in a way.[00:56:00] 

I've heard so many things and probably yourself that nothing surprises anymore, me anymore, and I'm less eager to land on something as long as it's based in love and, uh, kindness, uh, those values that I have, that's like my North Star. Um, I am not also, that's something I try to do, digging into the darkness and then, I mean, not shadow work, but real darkness, like evil.

Uh, I had a time where I wanted to understand like, who's trolling the world? I have to understand the darkness of the UFO phenomena, and I just have to understand evil. But that did something to me. Like I, I, um, started losing myself. I started to become depressed and sad, and I lost hope, and I lost energy.

It was so draining, and I realized that, okay, I'm not the person to do this. [00:57:00] Um, it, it, maybe it exists and it probably does from a perspective, but I can't go there. So I have made a choice to stay in that loving perspective. 'cause I feel like that's who I am. Like that belief, I think I will never move away from that.

We are love and we are joy from a higher perspective. But there was a very interesting interview on YouTube with Dr. John de Martini and, um, another podcaster, I can't remember his name. And they were very, um, had very different opinions. Uh, and it was very interesting because the way I saw it, none of them were wrong.

They were just speaking from different perspectives and different value systems and observations. So truth is truth from a perspective. Someone told me that and I've, I've liked that sentence. Yeah.[00:58:00] 

Kara: I, that speaks to me so much because I also am not a black and white person and, but, but I come across a lot of people who are black and white. And then because I'm so open, starts to get me in this like, wait, maybe I've been wrong this whole time, because they're so convincing and they're so convinced because it's either this thing or it's not.

And you either believe this or you are wrong. And it's, it's fascinating. And when you talk also about going into dark territory and. I mean, I've had that exact same experience and that exact same lesson for myself where I, uh, in, in fact, I, I mean, sometimes I have to relearn it, especially in the times that we're in right now, where it's everywhere.

And so it's kind of like, if you wanna explore some current events are risking, you know, that, like losing yourself. Um, but I came across [00:59:00] another podcaster and an episode that they were doing and, and it, it started talking about satanism and it shocked me how openly they were talking about it and the experiences that this person in the entertainment industry, you know, just talking about coming across people who were like, hailing, you know, Satan and, and all of this.

And, and I was, so, I didn't even watch the whole thing. I watched maybe like 25 minutes of it and then I put it down and I, I couldn't stop thinking about it. I was so shocked. I was so disheartened because I respected this person and they were so nonchalant about it that it was just like a, they were joking about it and it wasn't this, the vibe that I got from it really made me question what I was listening to.

And, um, but like I could feel this darkness coming. I had to kind of, [01:00:00] I, I had to stop what I was doing at a certain point recognize that it was closing in because there was, it was like, it's just. When you start looking at it, there, it, there is this intelligence with it. You know, you, you talked early in this interview about the intelligence of the divine and there is also an intelligence on the other side.

And it was closing in where it was like, I was thinking about it a lot and it was like sucking like life force out of me. It was making me feel hopeless. It was changing the way that I see reality. I had to kind of go into some you know, psychic protection and, and it was, it was me. I mean, I didn't feel like I was under attack.

It was like I had pulled it in, 

Jannecke: Hmm. 

Kara: know,

so, so I resonate so much with, with so much of what you've said. But there is, uh, we, I think we have very similar [01:01:00] journeys and experiences and so it's, it's really amazing.

Jannecke: Yeah. And I also know about myself and I learned about myself that I'm an empath and very sensitive, and sometimes I just have to turn on the news, off the news. Otherwise, I know that I've ha I'm having two days that are horrible. Because it's like you, it's being repeated in my mind what I saw. Uh, and uh, at one point I was like, but I have to, uh, endure this.

Like this is going on. You have to endure everything that's going on. But then I was thinking, but that person, that hurt or that that situation, that's just one person and you are saying to yourself that you need to take in everybody else's misery, like all the people on the planet. You should be able to endure how they suffer.

I mean, I'm, so, we're just suffering one at a time. [01:02:00] Like, why should I take in everybody's stuff? Like, that's too much, 

Kara: Yeah. 

Jannecke: handle it, and then I can't do anything positive. I came to that. I can't do anything positive if, if I'm going to help change the world, I need to stay in that light and not go under.

And that's when I, I became really clear about that for myself. And others are able to do that. They are more thick skinned and probably I'm a star seed also, so I'm allergic to a lot, like physically. Yeah. So I don't have that thick skin, like I can't handle it. And others are, you know, doctors, I so admire them.

Uh, doing surgery into bodies, and I could never do that. I like, oh, I can't even watch, I can't hardly watch blood. And I've tried to force myself to it, but I just, I just can't. I'm too sensitive. And it's about just honoring that too. Accepting that and doing what I'm supposed to do and not trying to do what the [01:03:00] doctors are doing or what this rescue man is doing, or the fireman or, yeah, we're meant for different things.

And it's back to that truthfulness of who are you, what are you meant for? What is right for you?

Kara: Yeah. That's beautiful. Well, what's going on for you in 2026? Do you have any projects coming up? I know you're going to Sedona in March. What's coming down the pipeline for you?

Jannecke: Yeah, it is that, yeah, big trip to, uh, Sedona that I'm really excited about. I mean, I'm going to meet you and Daryl Anka. I'm excited about Mo McCourt and Sarah Elk Ley, and people that I've really, that I really resonate with. And, uh, then I'm writing my book. That's like the big thing that's going on. So what I try to do is that I, um, I go into a bubble and then I don't record any episodes and I don't do any admin.

I just go into the bubble and I write, write, and then I do episodes again. So now in February [01:04:00] it's just writing, writing. And then March is like traveling, recording, April, traveling, recording, and then it's writing, writing, writing. And then the goal is to get that book out, uh, because that is. A self-love project for myself.

I've always wanted to write it, but gosh, I've met many shadows and whoa, it has been much harder than I thought, uh, even though I thought I had come so far to really be visible and having it, you know, printed on words for everyone to see. Uh, and you, like, you, I get thoughts in my mind like, oh, what if this person reads it?

What if that person reads it? What do they think? But it's a process like the more time goes, the more I'm standing in it more and more, and I know that it will help others. So I am really excited about that and hopefully it'll come out in English one day as well, 

Kara: That was my next question. 

Jannecke: hopefully. Fingers crossed. Yes. [01:05:00] That is the, that is my intention.

Mm.

Kara: Oh, beautiful. this has been an amazing conversation. I resonate with you so much and I'm so grateful for all the work that you're doing to hold the light and bring people into a truer version of themselves. Tell people how they can find you and connect with you.

Jannecke: Oh, thank you. Yeah, I mean I really resonate with everything you were saying too, and I also obviously resonate with another podcaster because I know how it's like to be on that side and taking it all in and being curious. So I'm very grateful for this conversation. And yeah, people can find me on YouTube Wisdom, some from North.

Um, you can also go to our website, wisdom from north.com and we also have a spiritual membership where I handpick actually some of the guests I'm interviewing that I feel are really into their heart and walking their talk to teach on our platform. So we do offer that as well. So yeah, that's it. And I'm on Instagram and Facebook of course.[01:06:00] 

Kara: Beautiful. Well, thank you so much. This has been amazing.

Jannecke: Thank you so much. Thank you for inviting me.

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