516. What Awakening Really Feels Like | The Many States of Consciousness - Eva Müller

Eva Müller - What Awakening Really Feels Like | The Many States of Consciousness

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Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding your Ascension to new heights. I'm your host Kara Goodwin, and in this episode Eva Mueller and I go deep. She's had profound spiritual awakening experiences and she shares hugely valuable information about different states of consciousness and what they were like for her.

I know it can be easy to think that the more expanded our awareness, the easier life can get, and Eva herself shares that this was her impression before her actual experiences. But these awakenings can bring through their own challenges, and it's fascinating to get the insight from Eva about what she experienced.

She also guides us through a powerful meditation at the end that I recommend listening to and experiencing more than once.

Eva Mueller is a renowned spiritual teacher and energy healer who's worked with thousands of people from all over the world After undergoing [00:01:00] her own spiritual awakening through various levels of consciousness and healing her human system, she now guides people on their path of spiritual awakening.

She's a channel for high vibrational divine healing energies that she transmits, pulling people toward their highest truth, helping to unlock their true potential, and connecting them to their true nature.

Before we begin, I'd love to invite you to explore the many offerings waiting for you@karagoodwin.com. You'll find my book, your Authentic Awakening, a collection of free guided meditations and other resources to support you wherever you are on the spiritual path. If like me, you felt called to the mysteries of sacred geometry.

I've created a recorded course that not only explains these high frequency patterns, but also guide you in working with them directly. You can also discover upcoming summits and workshops designed to connect you with like-hearted souls and expand your consciousness in real time. And [00:02:00] now, enjoy this episode.

Kara Goodwin: well, Welcome, Eva. I'm so excited to have you here today. Thanks so much for joining Soul Elevation.

Eva Müller: Yeah. Thank you so much for having Me I'm so happy to be here and I'm very much looking forward to the conversation. 

Kara Goodwin: Me too. I, I'm so excited. I know a little bit about your story, but you have a really powerful, um. Spiritual awakening story and I, I would love to start there.

Eva Müller: Yeah. Um, of course, um, yeah, basically I started my spiritual journey with meditation. 'cause beforehand we just talked about meditation a little bit. Um, so before my life was very normal and I, I was open for, let's say, spirituality for angels, for energy work and stuff like that. But I wasn't practicing it or also, um, it wasn't part of my life on a regular basis.

Let's take like that. I went to Healer every now and then, but that was really it. Um, but then there was a [00:03:00] time in my life when I felt. I mean, most of my life. But then at that time specifically, there was something missing and I just didn't really know what it was. So before I was already looking everywhere, um, finishing school, finishing university, Uh.

other degrees working, earning money, and I always was looking for it on outside traveling.

So filling this lack, filling this gap. And yeah, you know, for in the first moment it's filled, but then you feel the emptiness again. It just gets. Bigger and bigger. Um, yeah. And then this time came when I realized I was, uh, working at that time. Um, I don't wanna move forward in my life like that anymore. I just don't feel fulfilled.

I feel like it doesn't, it doesn't, uh, manifest as I wanted to manifest my life experience. And then I took some time off and I started to look into personal development more. I. So I listened to a lot of [00:04:00] podcasts. So podcasts like yours was very helpful for me at the time. Um, did online programs and there was this one specific online program where I, um, where there were guided meditations, uh, part of it, and I did this guided meditations.

And there was this one specific meditation where I had a very profound experience actually. And this made me curious. So I was just meditating along. It was a beautiful, it was beautiful. Um. Um, pulled into a very deep state, um, of meditation, but then what happened? My sense of self dissolved. So I completely dissolved, Eva dissolved my life.

Uh, the whole journey, like the whole life story, everything dissolved. There were no problems anymore. Uh, no earth, you know, like everything was basically gone. So I was just in this beautiful space. There was peace, there was silence. There was nothing going on, and it just felt so nice. You know, 

Kara Goodwin: Uh. 

Eva Müller: when you're like in a, in a space of life where.

[00:05:00] Um, you know, things are not going as you want. Um, and then you like move into that space where everything seems to be perfect, but there's nothing there in a way, which is weird, but it was just so beautiful to, to hang out in there. And I really enjoyed it. And I thought, okay, wow. Um, if I can experience this, um, right now, like I, I just want to have more of that.

And then I, I started, uh, with regular meditation and to join a meditation group online. Um, on Zoom, which was very convenient and I meditated with this group and was receiving spiritual energy transmissions, like right from the beginning. Um, I started this journey. Yeah. And everything basically happened from there.

Kara Goodwin: Mm. 

Eva Müller: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: So would you consider, if we wanted to label what 

Eva Müller: I. 

Kara Goodwin: experience 

was, if we use kind of language that people might be familiar with, would you consider that Samati or, 

Eva Müller: Yes. Today. I know it was, Maori, but back then I didn't know. You know, for me it was just a great experience today. I know it was a [00:06:00] Marty. Yeah.

Hmm.

Kara Goodwin: and it was, it lasted the duration of the meditation or did it continue on for a little? Sometimes people enter that state and then they kind of don't come out of it for a while.

But it was part of the meditation or how 

Eva Müller: Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: you?

Eva Müller: it was really like, uh, the meditation was over. I was still sitting for another, I don't know, 20, 30 minutes. Um, and I was in that space for that time and I went back through this meditation and the same experience happened like once or twice. But then I basically lost interest because I just wanted to explore more.

So I didn't feel it was like something, it was extremely amazing when I experienced it the first time, but then I experienced it the second and the third time, and then I was like, okay, there must be something more as Well, Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: Well, and I love how you talk about how, what an amazing experience that was for you, because I can imagine for some people that could be alarming if you start to, there's, you were saying there's no more Eva. There's no more, um, you know, you're, you, you're not connected [00:07:00] anymore with your identity. And I could imagine that there could be some like, wait a minute, where am I going?

What's happening? Am I losing it? If you know, was there any of that for you?

Eva Müller: No. It just felt very freeing. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Did it seem 

Eva Müller: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: at 

all? 

Eva Müller: Um, it didn't seem, seem unfamiliar, you know, but this is in general what I see on the whole path of awakening and gifts are opening and everything. Maybe at first. Maybe at first, you know, it feels unfamiliar, but then when you're there, like a day or two or you've experienced it more often than just feels so normal, you know, it just feels so extremely normal.

So it's all? known anyways. But, um, Yeah.

so this still, but for me it was liberating and 'cause I just, you know, I just didn't like my life experience anymore, so. I just wanted to get out of it, not off from life, but just of this specific, like how I felt about life, let's say like that. So life, life itself was unfolding in a, you know, good way anyways, but just how I felt about life.

Um, I just had [00:08:00] so many, what I call low vibration energies in my system. Um, so a lot of fear, a lot of anger. Um. Orientation. You know, I just didn't know what I wanted. I wanted to kind of find my life purpose. I didn't know how. So there were a lot of thinking about it, a lot of emotions that, um, Yeah.

that I didn't know what to do with, you know, that was problem.

It was just too much going on, and I had no, like, no guidance or I didn't even know that there would be guidance that I could find guidance. At that time, so I basically was just by myself. And then I listened to personal development podcast where um, people were also like touching into spirituality 

a little bit.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. 

Eva Müller: And this is what I really enjoyed because I thought, okay, um, there must be something more. So the openness was definitely there for me in my understanding, although I wasn't experiencing it. Um, and I thought, okay, if those people are experiencing that already, then it must be real. So I can kind of, I can get there as well.

I don't know how, But [00:09:00] must, there. must be a way. 

Kara Goodwin: But 

Eva Müller: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: there. 

Eva Müller: Yeah, exactly. 

Kara Goodwin: it. well, another thing that your experience. Triggers for me is a remembrance of being in my, in a second grade classroom. So I was about seven years old we were just, I was working on a worksheet and it was kind of like quiet time where she, the teacher was no longer giving instruction.

We were just kind of doing, finishing this worksheet on our own, and all of a sudden I felt myself, I felt my identity leave. I just felt this nothingness and I just remember I had no idea what that was and I was in this sort of suspended state of like I was, I realized I had a body, like I wasn't my body and I was like.

It. It was it. And of course like when we're in the spiritual [00:10:00] world, we understand this. These are concepts that are like introduced to us even before we may be able to experience them. But this just, it was like my identity left and I was kind of like watching myself from the inside and from the outside.

It was very strange. And I remember feeling a little bit of like. Choosing to bring myself back in and to get out of that state. It was like, and it, it was, it was a little bit scary because I had no frame of reference and I, I wasn't trying to do that and I, and it, and it, the fear part, at that young age of seven years old, I look back on and I'm like.

What was that? Because I didn't even know enough to be like, oh, this people might think you're crazy or, um, you, but it was almost like I was afraid I was gonna lose myself, you know? Like, [00:11:00] like that I knew enough about my identity at that point be like, oh, I need that part of me. know? So it's just very interesting.

Um, and 

Eva Müller: Yeah.

I mean, very fascinating, uh, at such a young age. Wow. I mean, that's the first time I'm, I'm hearing this, you know, that, that somebody had this opening at such a young age. That's so cool. 

Kara Goodwin: Well, and then it was, it was gone, you 

Eva Müller: Mm-hmm. 

Kara Goodwin: was something that I 

didn't understand. I even forgot about it for a long time, and I have remembered it in the last probably 10 years where I, and, but it was of those things that I felt like I could do that again if I wanted to, and I felt that I shouldn't do it.

And so I don't know what kind of like. Imprints there were on me of, of like the, some sort of danger of doing that or, or something like that. But anyway, for me, looking back, I'm like, oh, I shifted into a different state of [00:12:00] consciousness. And that's kind of what I wanna talk about next. Because you beautifully described entering a different state of consciousness where you are in that samati state.

Can you, can you talk about the different levels of consciousness and how you've experienced them?

Eva Müller: Yeah, absolutely. Um, so what I want to share first is that the, the levels of consciousness is a possible path of awakening. So we can awaken consciousness, but then we also have the, the body. The body mind system that needs to awaken as well. So the embodiment and um, my path was through consciousness, so this is what I'm gonna share, but it's not just consciousness, you know, it's also like it needs, the body needs to follow as well.

Um. So after meditating for, first of all, after meditating for about three months, I started feeling energies and had visions and saw light with my eyes closed and stuff like that. So I became very receptive before I didn't feel anything. [00:13:00] Then I was more curious and then I learned that there is levels of consciousness and that people can actually experience this in one lifetime.

And then I got curious and you know, when something, um, is interesting to me, I put all in, you know, I just go for it. And I was very dedicated, meditating every day doing practices and stuff. Um, yeah. And so the first level of consciousness that I experienced, um, is self-realization. So I'm just gonna name them through that.

People know what I'm gonna talk about. So, self-realization, unity consciousness. So this will be oneness, bra and consciousness. And then there is the, the para bra. And so bra consciousness is the absolute, um, and self-realization is a state where, um. Basically I was watching myself from the background, so I was more my body, my thoughts, my emotions.

Um, I was something else looking into the world throughout my eyes. And it was very interesting because also at the [00:14:00] time, my vision closed down, so this was actually very weird, weird part. My vision closed down and I was looking at everything like through a camera lens. So everything I experienced in this world also became a little impersonal.

Because of that. So it was more of a observing or watching. Um, and the good thing was I also started to become aware of parents in my system that I was following, you know, like parents inherited from my fa family, parents from society, you know, just, um, the truth of others. I was following. And I, it was my own truth, but I could identify at that time before I didn't see it.

You know, I couldn't really see my own truth. So this is when this start to open as well. I could, um, see stuff is, uh, there, that is actually not of my truth. Yeah. So this self-realization and, um, after, after that state, um. There's actually a also a little middle state. Uh, it's called God consciousness [00:15:00] and it's more of, uh, uh, uh, experiences that are opening up.

So, um, God consciousness, because it's like a door opens up suddenly. So when I was out in nature running in the forest, for example, it was like, do it opened up And everything was God. So from one minute to the next, so everything looked. Still, Eva was looking at it so that this is the difference here. I was looking or the self at that time was looking.

So there was still an individual there, uh, was looking outside and on the outside. Um, everything was just blissful. I felt so much bliss in my body as well. Everything looked like golden underlay.

Um, yeah, it was just, um, sparkly and you know, every way. Look, oh my God, so beautiful. Like this was such beautiful moments.

Um.

Kara Goodwin: this was still in meditation 

Eva Müller: No, no, this was this was with eyes opening in the forest running

for.

Kara Goodwin: you're, as you're out in the world.

Eva Müller: Yes, exactly,

Kara Goodwin: Wow. 

Eva Müller: So this was, um, [00:16:00] also the same with self-realization. This is what I described was like out in the world, you know, the system is changing. So it's a permanent change of, of how the world. is perceived and how I perceive myself and with the God a consciousness is really.

You see the, like suddenly these openings happening. So it was somewhere like 10, 15 minutes. And the longest one was actually on my birthday. So this is was my birthday gift. It seems like it was two hours or about, yeah, two hours. Um, when I was on a longer hike. Um, and I was very beautiful. So a whole hike.

I was in absolute bliss. Love was flowing, you know. This divine love, um, and everything was just golden underlaid. And when I looked at it, I could see the energy of everything and it was just very blissful. So that was very beautiful. But this goes down after a certain amount of time, and then after that, there was unity consciousness.

So. First I thought, um, this is why I was on this path when I reach unity consciousness. [00:17:00] This was my understanding. My life will be so much better. I will be in bliss all the time. There will be joy. I won't have any life problems anymore. I don't have to have a normal job anymore. I don't know why, thought that, but there were a lot of things I thought.

You know, life will just be so awesome and different when I reach Unity conscious that this was just my understanding for some reason. So I, yeah. And then, um, but when I reached it. Of course the first few hours were very interesting. Um, so I, how, how did this happen? I actually had a, a shift. So I was sitting in meditation, um, and, you know, energetically there is a small self boundary around our system, and then there is the oneness.

So all of creation is, is infinite oneness, and this boundary, uh, dissolved and I saw it in my mind eye that a balloon was flowing off. Like my, um, my skin was flowing off like a balloon. So this is how I, I saw it, uh, with my eyes closed and then suddenly the, the skin was gone [00:18:00] and, um, everything was one. So I was merged with everything that is in creation.

This was the experience meditation, and then. How it manifested in my life experience. Um, well, the first day was really great.

It was blissful and I felt so much lighter and expanded and it was a bit weird as well, you know, because you just feel very different when these boundaries are resolved. But then after a few hours, um.

It was very different. So there's this mechanism in the system where we can hold down low vibration energies or experiences from the past that we don't want to bring up or don't want to see, don't want to feel emotions that we just, you know, can't handle. And this mechanism broke down and like all these emotions just came up like that.

You know, I was in absolute fear. Without a reason. I was just, there was so much fear present. Um, anxiety, depression, like a lot of it just came up. Came up one after the [00:19:00] other, just this energy was came up and I was in them. I had no idea what was going on. Also because of this opening, um, how I perceived, uh, the world was very different.

Everything was pixeled. So I thought I damaged my system somehow as well, because I couldn't really see normal anymore. It didn't feel normal. Um, yeah. Then what I also experienced, the ego. Was pulled into the background. So it was really, basically how I describe it today is the energy is withdrawn from the ego and it just pulls into, it's pulls into the background because when we don't identify with the ego anymore, it doesn't get the energy.

It's not fed anymore, and then it just moves back. So this is basically what happened at that time, and this brings forward this feeling of death. So I had this for a few days, you know, like this feeling of dying even though I was working. So just for everybody who was listening, I went to work normally.

It was just why I was doing my everyday things. This was the experience on the inside. Um, and then. [00:20:00] Um, yeah. Then there is, like, what I saw is a ball of like ball of light in the scent of my chest. And this was my life story and my identification, like who Eva is and, and my life, her life story. And this was ripped out of my chest and then it was empty, so there was nothing there.

Yeah. And I became hypersensitive. So I couldn't eat certain things anymore, couldn't have coffee, couldn't have sugar. I felt beings in other dimensions or energies in other dimensions. So when I was sleeping, I felt, you know, um, so I, I didn't see them, but I just felt energies, all sorts of different energies entering the room, living in the room.

And yeah, so that was all very scary. And because of all the fear I attracted also like. You know, those energies like met this frequency. Yeah. So this was like a, an experience for two months. There was, um, let's say interesting from this perspective and I'm happy that I experienced [00:21:00] it because, you know, like I can guide people now through this and I know it was there for a reason, but going through it, yeah.

Wasn't the, the most fun. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh. Thank you. And I know that there's more to share, but I wanna pause here because what you've shared is really profound and is also really, um, there's so many important things. In this experience that I wanna highlight. And because one of them is the expectation versus what actually happened.

And I relate to this so much because I am always wanting to expand more, get to an, you know, another level, more embodiment, like bring, bring as much God light as I can hold and let's keep opening, go moving through the layers and just. Radiating out. And for I feel the same way. I'm like, do it. It's gonna be great.

as I have gone through my process, there [00:22:00] has been this big part of it, which is like, okay, you want, like, one of, one of the things that I would desire would be, know, let me know the truth. Let me see the truth. Let me be the truth. And. There is that shadowy element of that. Like, okay, you, you get what you want.

And there, that's not all fun and games, you know, it's not all beautiful. It's, you know, if, if you wanna be completely whole, if you want to embody yourself fully, then you're going to, there are suppressed memories that come up that are, you know, okay, well that's part of who you are. And so. Here, remember this, integrate this, you know, and, and what gifts are here for you.

But that has been hard. And then also if we take this on the bigger scale, because the more that you're embodying your own self and losing that identity and merging with all that is, [00:23:00] the more you are also connecting to, to all that is. And so in this earth plane. We have a lot of darkness. And so we can think about this from a global perspective of current events that are going on and, and disclosure that's happening, for example.

And you know, even from a very physical perspective, from a very like earth perspective, we might think, alright, I'm ready for the truth. Like, I want the truth to be revealed and, and I do want that and I. I learn more and more, there's part of me that wants to close the box and be like, all right, enough that I can't, I can't take anymore right now.

You know? It's just too, it's too inverted and it's too disturbing, and it's not that I wanna live in illusion or I wanna live in lies, when we're taking, because you went through that, it's such a [00:24:00] rapid pace. So there's so much that's coming in and you're having to. Deal with so much and you've done a great job of, of trying to articulate the multi, the multidimensional aspects of it, of everything that was happening all at the same time with your identity, but also with the fear that was coming in, and then the resonance of what that was attracting in and how you're trying to deal with that.

And it's just happening all at once. And that is, that is a huge shift how we live in an illusionary. Reality right now. Um, those are a couple things that came to mind as you were talking, but there's, there was so much there. It's just like, it's profound and there, there are, so, there's so much learning in there too.

Eva Müller: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm glad um, you, you see that way. And also, I mean, there was a lot of learning for me, like to understand how this system works and there are just different [00:25:00] parts that follow these realizations or these openings, um, because the whole system is changing, Right.

When we move through these levels of consciousness and we do healing work, because this is, was an this.

Was a big part then of the next part of my journey. So unity, consciousness, um, healing the system, so healing and clearing those low vibration energies that were left in there. Um, and um, also embodying. Starting to embodying and integrating this, the wholeness or the, the unity into the system. So this is also a, a process and it's in and out process because, uh, sometimes the openness was there, the, the list, the expansion was there, you know, everything was fine.

And then when there was something coming up again, like consumed in that again, so you're back into this in the fear or back in the anger or in which other shame. You know, all these energies you just fully consume for a little while until it moves through and then, um, the openness is there again 

and so forth.

So it's [00:26:00] this, it's this play, but it got less, you know, to not So, um, 

it. 

Kara Goodwin: a sense 

too, this might be part of what you're leading into for the next phase, but did you have a sense that you were also processing for more than yourself, but what you were experiencing personally felt very personal?

Eva Müller: Um, I mean, you know, a lot of things were definitely also collective things, especially around like women. What, you know, women had to go through and stuff. Just for example, yes, I could feel every now and then, things like that also coming up, um, with like the, not just my own, um, stuck energies, how I call them, but like really collective stuff.

Yes, this was definitely there. 

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. 

Eva Müller: Yeah. But it was, you know, just part of this clearing then 

Kara Goodwin: Right. 

Eva Müller: I didn't really look into this so much, you, know, this is really what I.

have to say. Like, I, I, the information was there, but I never really looked into it. Yeah, [00:27:00] 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, because it was presenting, you had enough going on with your, that was so much to be going through. So then you, through that process, there was that healing element it sounds like. And then did that bring you to another level?

Eva Müller: Yeah. Um, So basically the, the healing definitely helped me to stabilize the experience of unity consciousness so that this was there all the time and there was hardly any interference. I mean, of course every now and then there were emotions coming up, anding, uh, from the past. And you know, the thing is when the identity dissolves.

So how I see this is the identity is gone. So no new things like how life unfolds. You're not identified with it anymore, so it gets more impersonal, but at the same time, there are still energies that are playing out that, have identification in them. So they still have to play out until they fully gone, and this takes some time as well.

Um, yeah, and then there was [00:28:00] definitely the time when I felt, okay, unity is integrated also, like a lot of other stuff fell away, like desires fell away, for example. Or I felt like I'm not accumulating any karma anymore. You know, there was just these little, these little things. Um, and then Sahaja, Samari. Um, so this is a state when you, like you meditate or you don't meditate, you feel always the same, like the consciousness doesn't change anymore.

So this was also something on the way. And then the next, so this was like more subtle shifts, you know, it's like more realizations. Um, also actually a very interesting one was, um, so how the energy flows. So before it always felt like the energy is flowing outward. So for me out in the world, and then there was this sudden change when the energy was only flowing in, and this is when my, when the experience started to become, my main experience is my inside.

And the outside experience is still there, but it's like compared to the inside experience is like [00:29:00] 80 twenties. So 20% is the outside experience at 80% the inside experience. There was like this, this movement. Suddenly my main experience was my insight.

Kara Goodwin: So when you say 

that, when you say your main experience, do, do you mean what you were paying attention to? Like what you were more focused on, the energy that was running through the inside, or was it more that were recognizing inner experiences and maybe they were just being reflected in the outside?

Or can you say more about that?

Eva Müller: Yeah. So the, from, from a scale of, um, importance was that?

what's happening in my system more important than on the outside, and this is where the focus was. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. 

Eva Müller: also like, I couldn't go and energetically not more, not more on. So much into the outside world, just put so much energy into the outside world.

'cause the energy was flowing back. So it was always flowing back to me. It was just my experience. And so [00:30:00] the main focus and the main energy was within the system and not like outside anymore, even though there was this one, but it was still, um, you know, we all have this consciousness and the outside is just a reflection of the consciousness.

Um, but just where there. The, I guess the focus is, and, and this is still very similar, so the, the main experience, even though you, you meet people and you know, there is stuff going on, but the experience of life and everything is happening on the inside. So you see stuff on the outside with your eyes, but then it's the, I mean, as you said, it's the mirror.

So when something brings something up in your system, it's happening within you, you know, it doesn't happen on the outside. And this is when this was like. Just there all the time from that moment on 

so that the outside is the experience. We don't have an experience in the outside, but it's only actually on the inside. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Eva Müller: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: Wow, that's 

Eva Müller: then, but the ne the next [00:31:00] um, shift was the Brahman shift. And this was actually, um, also very interesting story. I was at the meditation retreat and we were listening to devotional or Divine Modern Music, and I really enjoyed at that time. Um, and so I was sitting, meditating and I had this beautiful.

experience with a divine mother, came into my system and looked out through my eyes, and I.

So I was gone, but she was in my system. This was the experience. So I was the massive, expanded space of pure power, pure potential, and feminine. I felt this strong feminine energy. Um. And it was like a breathtaking experience because this power, like the whole power of the universe was within me. This is what I felt.

Um, and there was so much love present, you know, this divine love and everything. And then. Again, I had this question, I asked the divine mother. I asked, what can I do to feel this all the time? Because, [00:32:00] um, it seems, if I can feel it right now, you know, it's a thing. I just got the answer. I have to get rid of human love and human love.

Um, it's really the condition, you know, conditional love. So I love you because. You're nice to me, or because you're my mother because of different reasons, you know, different conditionings. So I was shown over a course of two, uh, weeks, just different scenarios where I had conditioned love in my system, and then I just gave it away.

You know, I, I moved it through, um, and then suddenly one day nothing was left, so everything was gone. There was no experience of anything anymore. There was just emptiness and silence. So I was empty. And this was the Brahman, so I became the Brahman. And this is a very, very different experience because there are no emotions.

Like there is no human experience. The humanness is totally gone, uh, no emotions. Um, so no lower vibrational emotions, which is nice. Also, no high [00:33:00] vibrational emotions, which is a bit, it was a bit strange. Um, basically a kind of a void. There was no bliss. Um, and it was just emptiness. Like there was no sense of anything anymore.

Like you can't sense anything. Not even other people, not yourself like, or nothing like one space. Then, um, with that shift or with that experience, a lot changed also in my life experience. So when I was looking at something, I saw it, it was manifesting in front of my face When I looked away from it collapse, like it didn't exist.

So this is looking for outside of creation into creation because we are the creators of our reality. So every single person is creating. And I'm not talking about manifesting, you know, it's really about cr We are creating this reality. We are part of the creation. And when we look at something, um, on that level of the Brahman, um, it's just, we just see how it works.

Before we're just not aware so much, or we're not aware. So we look at [00:34:00] something it manifests and if we look away, it doesn't exist. It's, and this is very interesting because it's the same for family and friends, you know, for. My bedroom, you know, like something you're using every day. Like you go into another room and the the room wearing before it's gone, like you have no sense of it.

Um, and then also I felt like it was in a very deep meditation all the time. So sucked out somewhere. Um, so it was kind of. Harder to, to be part of life and to have conversations and there was no interest, you know, in, in participating so much in conversations and interaction with people. Um, everything got very, yeah, it's just flat in there.

I mean, there's nothing flat, there's nothing in there in that experience. Um, and to, to get an, an also another understanding hooked. How experience it is. For example, when I look in the distance, um, it's like a movie screen and everything between you and the movie screen me and the movie screen [00:35:00] is just energy and it's created just there in between so that I can see it. 

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Eva Müller: And outside of this movie screen is nothing. So behind there is nothing, And you can actually see that as well. Yeah. So this was just, um, a, a very interesting time, 

um, 

Kara Goodwin: long did 

that last? 

Eva Müller: for about three months. 

Kara Goodwin: Wow. And it 

Eva Müller: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: like 

Eva Müller: Yeah. Yes. Mm-hmm. 

Absolutely. And I was lucky because I knew people who were there before me for a certain amount of time.

So I did, told me already beforehand what to expect kind of. So I knew it's gonna happen in that way. If I wouldn't have known, it would've been very, very hard. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. 

Eva Müller: been very hard because it's like from the humanist, not not having an experience at all. And this is very, it's for the mind, very hard to understand, but it's, it's like you become a, just an empty bag of bo uh, empty [00:36:00] body.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. 

Eva Müller: Um, like a, the, the meat suit or, Yeah.

Um, yeah. And then, um, after about three months. I was just missing the love a lot and I felt like I wasn't really any of any help for my friends and family anymore, or for my partner, you know, there's just no interest in, not in anything anymore. And then I decided, okay, I have enough of this.

Um, I want to come back. So basically bring back the humanness and actually, because I made this choice, it happened. This was also very interesting. So it slowly started to come back in to the, the human qualities. Just different. So not, not the human love anymore, but the unconditional love. Then there is the joy of existence.

Um, there is like a natural curiosity to life. It's Like a lot of qualities come back, but just in a very different way than they were before.

Kara Goodwin: Like in a heightened way, it [00:37:00] sounds like maybe.

Eva Müller: Heightened, uh, very clear and like, not, I'm not, I don't know if I can actually say this word in English, like they, it can't be manipulated. Yeah, manipulated. You know, it's like, like it can't be nothing on the outside or nothing that happens in life could change. 

The experience of it. So it doesn't need an event to let's you feel the joy.

It doesn't need a person to feel this love. Every, you know, the unconditional love is the same for everybody, no exception. Um, and this is like, it just brings also in so much information. You know, like we all hear on this journey, everybody does what? They have to do, you know, there is no judgment. A lot of stuff is not, it's just not there.

You know, like it's, I mean, it wasn't in braman either, but just saying it's just not there. So a lot of changes are coming in with that. So you, you come back, you come back more as a human, but very different version. [00:38:00] Than there was before. And then also, so when I was, um, in Brahman, I was already sitting with people in one-on-one settings and transmitting the state.

Um, and then when this humanist started to come back in, um, also the, so the divinity, this is the specific light that started to come in and this is the light. I then later on and at that time started to work with, um, yeah, so. 

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. Well, it's really fascinating because I was wondering, as you were describing that you told me before we started recording that you had a baby last year, and so I. I'm, I'm listening to you talk about the Brahman state, and I'm like, that would be a really interesting situation for a mother, had, had you had your baby yet.

Eva Müller: No I didn't. Um, but you know, it's still the same. So this unconditional love, um, is the same for everybody. 

Kara Goodwin: But in 

Eva Müller: For my partner. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh. [00:39:00] 

Eva Müller: Yeah. Yeah. so it's still the same. 

Kara Goodwin: where it was so neutral and you 

Eva Müller: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: there's no lows, but there's also no highs, you know, 

Eva Müller: Yeah. and this is similar now because now I see different, it's not so, so the system changes to that extent that it's not like emotion, so human like as a new human, before you get a gift and you get the emotion of joy, you see a baby. Joy is coming up. You know, it's like really this emotion this, this energy rush rushes through your system.

And now it's more like this joy is just there. It's like it's not as, the high is not as high and the low is not as low, but it's just there all the time. So there is not so much a change in experience and with the baby is very different. And I don't know how it would've been Raman, but now, um. I still experience everybody exactly to be the same.

There is no difference, also not the baby, but there is one aspect. The baby and the mother is connected through the heart. Um, you know, like, because we care, um, women are carrying [00:40:00] the baby and then the baby's always a part of myself, of my body. And so there is this connection and this is this very special connection and I don't experience it to anything else in this relative.

So it's really just the baby. Um, yeah, and I'm actually very happy because I didn't know how it's gonna be. How would, would, um, be. Um, and I'm very happy that I, I can have this connection and this feeling of, uh, it's a deeper love really from the level of the heart and not like the unconditional love, which is also fine, you know, like there's no missing of the human love.

But this is definitely different 

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. 

Eva Müller: the baby. Yeah. Mm. 

Kara Goodwin: Well, you had offered before we started recording to lead us through a meditation. Are you feeling up to that? 

Eva Müller: Yeah, absolutely. Yes. 

Kara Goodwin: love it. 

Eva Müller: Mm-hmm. Okay. Sounds amazing. Let's, let's aim for 10 minutes. And so what you can do, and also the listeners, is just sit back, relax, close your eyes, um, be in a very [00:41:00] open, receptive state is possible. And I just guide you through the meditation.

So I bring in the light first. This takes and set up the session energetically. This takes about 30 seconds, so I'm just gonna do that.

I am opening up the energy field,

bring in light.[00:42:00] 

Can I expand the energy field?

Expanding the energy field helps to hold more light in the system, and also more awareness comes with that as well. So I'm expanding.

And the energy field can always be more expanded. So this is basically a never ending process.

Then fill up the expanded space with light. So light is higher. Information

information system. The system receives it. It knows exactly what to do with it.[00:43:00] 

A clear surface energies. So surface energies are all sorts of energies that, um, you've been exposed to over the past one or days, and also emotions that are, that have been triggered up and floating around the system or emotions that just haven't left the system yet. So I clear them. Because emotions are, um, creating the noise in the system they're creating, or they are the movement, and then the system focuses on them.

So this is mostly on the main experience, but behind the emotions is the silence, the clarity, the stillness, the piece. This is always there.

So, and the more I clear of those surface energies, the more light can enter. So there's a lot of light entering. Then I also clear [00:44:00] energies out of the, uh, mind. So it's just stuck energy on the mind level. You know, when we think a lot or have a lot of thoughts, it just means the energy doesn't move through fully.

It just gets stuck on the mind level, and this is why it's there and this is why we have a lot of thoughts and we don't need to have any thoughts, you know, to use the intellect. We don't need thoughts.

So there is also now love light on the mind level, and then I open up the central energy channel. This is where life energy flows through the system. So life energy flows from the root to the crown chakra, falls back down, left and right, and flows up again. Life energy is life itself. So life experience.

And the more open and expanded the system is, the more healed and cleared it is. The more life energy can flow, [00:45:00] and then life experience gets a lot more easy, more enjoyable, simpler,

and this is what we want. So then we have a mechanism in our system that's, that creates the experience of past and future because there is no past and future. There is only depressed moment. Um, but because of this mechanism, we can go into the past and we can move into the future with our thoughts and bringing up emotions from the past, bring them into the present moment or also into the future.

So I'm going to remove this mechanism, bring you fully into the press moment.

And now you can try to go [00:46:00] into the past in the future. It doesn't work. You're only here with me now. And there is this very, very beautiful, high vibrational divine light present. It's a golden light. The golden light has the quality of awakening, the God spark within us, sort of divine spark within us. We are divine.

We're human in this life experience, right? So we incarnate with a body. We're human in this life experience. We are a lot more, and we also have this divine spark in all this. And this specific light helps to activate this spark and bring divinity forward into your experience.

It's flowing in. It's flowing into, into your body. So it always comes in through the [00:47:00] crown chakra and through chakra into body and energy, body and also the area around you. So this beautiful golden light is everywhere, and I love its quality because it's so nurturing for the human, also for the body, I.

And it really brings forward this divine aspect.

I.

A clear energy is out of the heart shock whether I blocking this or um, feel limited and small and unimportant. So to be also divine. So energies that basically [00:48:00] don't see that this is a possibility or. That this is just within us as well, clear energies.

I just see a lot of limitations falling away

and more of this beautiful light is coming in. I.

And then I put unconditional love into the hard chakra and through the hard chakra, I fill up the whole system with unconditional love. At the same time, while this beautiful gold light is coming in more and more,

I.[00:49:00] 

I just hear a little bit of resistance to coming up. Second chakra resistance to life. Life experience.

Resistance to life itself is one of the fundamental, um, resistances we have. 'cause life is unfolding anyways. It doesn't really, you know, matter if we prefer it or not. It just unfolds. And if we don't prefer it, so if there's resistance, then we create. Problems or pain, sadness and so forth. So we create a lot from this resistance and clearing resistance.

Also, fear root chakra, fear from like changes [00:50:00] from something new that you don't know yet. Fear from the future. Just clear this fear while I clear these energies. The light is entering those spaces where these energies were before, so there is more expansion.

So let's sit with this for a minute in silence before I end this meditation. [00:51:00] Okay.

we are finished. 

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. you so much. I need a drink of water here.

That was really beautiful. So you do these, these meditations, you have offerings where, um, you lead people through these regularly, right?

Eva Müller: Yeah, so I have, I have small group healing sessions where we really specifically work on clearing low vibrational energies, and I bring people into experiences like let's say, unity consciousness or bring forward the true nature and stuff like that, or remove the ego, like [00:52:00] whatever comes up in these sessions.

But first of all, that people already have the experience so that you know, there's nothing to fear about. And also that the system already gets used to it. So when the system can hold the states that it's just, just extremely normal, 

you know, 

Kara Goodwin: Mm. 

Eva Müller: done before being there. 

Kara Goodwin: Yes. And so how can people find out more about those offerings?

Eva Müller: Yeah, so I have two websites. Um, there is one em healing.com and this is where the small group healing sessions are. There is one on every week, and I also offer a free meditation. This is where I guide people usually in a very deep, um, meditation, and then we sit in silence for some time as well. Um, and there is also a little q and a.

So this is every Thursday at nine o'clock Central European time. Um, this is also on this website and then I have another website. It's called Next elevations.com. And this is where I offer the conne, like I connect people to this high vibrational divine energies 24 7. [00:53:00] Um, so that because these energies come in and they just help to heal and clear the system and raise the level of consciousness.

I call it, I, they're pulled you towards your personal highest truth. 'cause everybody's truth in this lifetime is different. Um, yeah. And there's a whole website with a lot of information. Also videos are there that people can do, and there's a monthly meeting with a system upgrade and forth. So there's a lot of different offerings?

And I'm also doing in-person retreats. 

Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: And so is there anything that you want the listeners to be aware of as they are emerging from this meditation, this healing session? Um, any sort of care that they, that would be particularly helpful as they move through the rest of their day? 

Eva Müller: Um.

I mean, just go with the flow. The energy stays around for a little bit, always anyways, you know, it just, it'll help to, um, create the, the daily experience in a more, you know, smoother way. Um, [00:54:00] and then if people are interested, I also have a YouTube channel. They can go there, there are a lot of videos if they want to connect back to these meditations, but it's really, um, I think it's.

Enough. If people say, okay, I take some time, I meditate, um, and this is the time, then I just go into my life. You know, it integrates into life anyways because when we sit and meditate, we do certain things. This is, for example, raising the vibration was a lot in this as well. Um, it manifests in life, like it does that because the system is changing.

You know, the, the, it can't be any other way. So people are receiving in the moment of meditation and then when they move through life, this is what integration is happening. 

Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Well, Eva, this has been fascinating and beautiful and activating, and I've just loved every second. Thank you so much for coming on Soul Elevation.

Eva Müller: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me and uh, for having this beautiful conversation and for all your beautiful questions. So Thank you. very much[00:55:00] 

and also thank you. 

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. I.

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