556. Inner Medicine & Shamanic Awakening | Animal, Plant & Galactic Consciousness - Kerri Hummingbird

Kerri Hummingbird

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Kara: Welcome to Soul Elevation, guiding your Ascension to New Height. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. You're really gonna get a lot from this episode with Carrie Hummingbird. She shares a lot of shamanic wisdom relating to expanding your consciousness. She talks about how the traumas and challenges in our lives are medicine, and we talk a lot about the role of animals and plants in our evolving consciousness.

Look for the link to my episode on Care's Podcast, soul Nectar in the show notes.

Carrie Hummingbird Medicine woman, mother and mentor, Is the founder of Inner Medicine Training, a mystery school that shares potent ancient traditions from the Andes and Himalayas for owning your wisdom and living your purpose.

She is the number one international bestselling author of Inner Medicine, becoming One with Mother Earth for the Survival of Humanity, and several other books [00:01:00] As the host of Soul Nectar, Carrie inspires people to lead their lives wide awake with an authenticity, passion, and purpose. That positively impacts others as a healer and mentor.

She catalyzes mind shifts that transforms life challenges into gifts of wisdom.

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome Carrie. I'm so excited to be with you today and to have you on my podcast. I had such a good time on your podcast. So welcome to Soul Elevation.

Kerri: Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here and see what's gonna come out

Kara Goodwin: I know, I know. Well, and we had a funny experience on Soul Nectar because you, uh, at some point it, we lost the recording and so we actually got to do it twice, which was a blessing because we, we had the first go and then we had another one. So we never know what is gonna happen when, when we get together.

Kerri: No, we don't. It's a mystery.

Kara Goodwin: Yes.

Kerri: and, and, um, lots of realizations happen, so.

Kara Goodwin: Yes, absolutely. Well, I know that you've been influenced by many traditions and lineages, and that's where I wanted to start today by talking [00:03:00] about some of the influences and what, what kinds of practices and, and again, influences have been part of your practice. But, and also I think the biggest piece that I wanna get to is.

What is the biggest influence for you right now?

Kerri: Yeah, so, well that's, it's all about medicine, you know? So I study with a lot of Shamanic teachers. I studied with some of the best and. It's all about medicine. It's about seeing the medicine in everything, rather than seeing, oh, this is good or this is bad, it's actually seeing what medicine is this situation, this experience, this relationship, this person, this moment. What is it offering me for my path? And that's why my program is called Inner Medicine 'cause it's all about discovering the inner medicine for for yourself. And so a lot of my teachers [00:04:00] woke me up to this idea that. If I could focus on the inside of myself rather than trying to always control the outside.

'cause I was, I was a massive mother hen, you know, for both of my sons, especially my older son, he went through lots of challenges. So I was always trying to like mother hen him and like get him corralled, you know, into a good path and. know, just seeing all these things happen, like, oh no, you know, like this, this is bad.

You know? And having all these judgements about everything of seeing what's the medicine of this, what's the medicine for his growth, what's the medicine for his development? And so for myself as well in my life, I always thought things were such a problem. I was going to psychotherapy, I was trying to fix myself. I thought I shouldn't have these problems. I shouldn't have these challenges. I'm really smart. I went to a great college. I'm, know, educated. Um, I should be having a great life. You know, I've got a great job. I found a great partner. Things should be working out. So why don't I feel good? What's the matter with me? And so I was like looking and [00:05:00] see what's the matter with Carrie. So that was, you know, so it's, you kind of get the, the message, right? It was about like, what's the matter with this and how can I fix it to be the way I want it to be? So a lot of that, um, psychotherapy was great because it gave me introspection.

It gave me self-awareness. So I don't, I think psychotherapy has its place in the journey. I feel like it helps people to talk about what's going on for them, start to actually use their voices. It, that's what it helped me to do. Actually relate, feel my emotions. but at a certain point, you know, it needs to evolve. And that's when I realized I got kind of to the end of my rope and I realized two decades of weekly psychotherapy and I'm still not fixed. So something's gotta change. You know, I can't just keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. And I left my 20 year relationship and I went out and just said, okay, if I'm bad, I'm just gonna be bad. I'm just gonna be bad. for a while I was just [00:06:00] bad, you know, in my book, bad, like the last couple years of my marriage, I was cheating. You know? I was being bad. I was like, well, if I'm so bad, I'll just be bad. Watch, watch how bad, bad can get. I was kind

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Kerri: that mode, right?

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: And then I decided, well, that's not really working out either.

I don't like that. I'm not being who I am and integrity, and I know it. I'm going against myself. So what do I do now? And then I left my marriage and I started, um, seeking answers, you know, soul seeking. And I was led to shamanism. I, a friend of mine said she'd gotten this, uh, healing from a shaman and her whole life changed.

And so after that conversation, I went to my Google and I said, shaman in Austin. And, and I found this guy Gary Starns, who, For a long time has led drum circles and things like that in town, and that was my first teacher and I, I studied with him. I had a shamanic healing from him. And the shamanic healing that I received was a [00:07:00] soul retrieval, and it was a soul retrieval from when I was like one years old.

And I had a very traumatic incident. natural father was, um, you know, was, uh. Expressing his love in an inappropriate way for somebody who's one years old. And my mom walked in on the scene where he was in the bathtub with me and she was horrified. And so in that moment, my innocence fled my, little body.

'cause it was terrifying to me. And this is what happens a lot to, to souls. And they have these experiences shocking or terrifying. They, their little soul part flies out. And so part of matic healing is bringing that soul part back in. And since that soul part, my innocence had been gone since I was one years old, and here I was like at the time, like a 42-year-old woman. It took a while to integrate that back in because that part of me doesn't even know me. It had to learn about me. But that healing was so [00:08:00] profound, so deeply profound to me. I had such revelation about the nature of my being in that. One hour session. It blew my mind, literally, and it also gave me this inkling of that's why things wouldn't fix through talking about it on the psychotherapy couch, because I was one years old, I didn't have words. To describe my experience. I had emotions, feelings, sensations, and cries, but it didn't have words. And so of course that part can't express what's going on for her. I finally found this pathway of healing where a lot of the things that I was experiencing were earlier than words and or from past lives. I started realizing as well, traumatic past lives that I needed to, to heal. So. So profound to me to realize all of this. And so I [00:09:00] of course just was like, shamanism was this huge buffet and I was just going to eat every single dish on the buffet, you know, like, give it to me now. And so I was like going from teacher to teacher to teacher. I studied with Alberto Aldo at the Four Wins Moonlight Body School, um, which is largely Andean Shamanism, but also South American Shamanism. Kind of rolled into a set of, um, teachings and a set of energetic activations he developed with his teacher, Don Manuel Kipi, who is beyond the veil. He's, uh, the last Leica, the last high medicine shaman of the Inca. Um, helped support him to create this as a bridge to the western world. And so we bring this out now to Western people who wish to embody earth codes, who wish to walk this path of healing. And also reconnecting them with their ancestral medicine because [00:10:00] everybody's ancestors, everybody's got an ancestor with a drum. Everybody has an ancestor who practiced some form of medicine or healing or. You know, whatever word you use, which K and data, it doesn't matter. All of those teachings are earth spirituality, and everybody's got ancestry and wisdom in their bones, and so this helps to activate that remembrance and helps to bring healing and reconnection to your ancestral. so you can be your own healer you can help heal your ancestry and, and heal these patterns for future generations. so this is what really excites me. You know, so that I learned so much from that. And then from, um, my toll tech teacher teachers, which happened to right about the same time, Heather Hamara was one of my, I apprenticed with her for about six years. She's a protege of Dominic El Ruiz, and many people might be familiar with, um, the four Agreements. The book, the Four Agreements and the [00:11:00] Fifth Agreements a great book too, if you haven't read that one. And the Five Levels of Attachment is another really great book. The Family just has such great wisdom they put out there, and so I'm part of that lineage as well through Heather Hamara and practiced The Four Agreements and the Toltech Wisdom.

And Toltech means Artist of your Spirit. It means being the artist of your spirit, you know, and being the artist of your whole dream of life like. unfolding in front of you and you can influence it in a new direction with your conscious presence and with your, as, you know, co-creative skills. I mean, I've had so many more teachers, but the power path is another great set of teachers I've had, and I've studied in the jungle with them, with the shao, with plant medicines, worked with ayahuasca, I've worked with, um, other really healing modality plants and tobacco and other plants to heal myself and to be in relationship with these. Intelligences that are in the plant realms. And I've [00:12:00] also worked with the Ika Nation and through them in, Mexico, which many people might be familiar with. Carlos Castaneda, you know, from Yeah. He, he claimed to study with, uh, the Ika Nation, but they kind of say, well, he did, but he didn't. Go all the way. They have very amazing initiatory practices that I think only Wika can actually do because Western people, it's a lot for us.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.

Kerri: We, we get,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: initiation light, you know, for us to walk the path, they have like baby steps for us, you know? 'cause

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: not built the same. We, they're so much stronger and in many ways than Western people.

So. I feel honored and privileged to have done my five year initiation with them as well. So just you asked like influences, these are all the influences plus the gene keys. I mean, gosh, you know, breathing, breathing, bringing in all that wisdom of the E chang and [00:13:00] the beautiful astrology wisdom that's embedded inside that human design codes and I mean, I love the gene keys for its, uh. Lyrical nature. It's Pope Poetry. You know, Richard Roderick, I don't know if anybody's have you listened to them, but their contemplation audios are like, wow, they're so really beautiful. So I see myself as like an integrator, like, um, some people are bodies of wisdom. Right for the planet, like the gene keys is a body of wisdom. Alberto and Mal, well, they downloaded and created a set of initiations that encapsulates this ancient wisdom, right? As you receive

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Kerri: of these initiations, grow your path. So there's people that have. Downloaded these bodies of wisdom and there's others of us that are integrators.

We're the ones who are like weaving this together, like spider spider medicine, weaving the web of all of these ancient modalities and [00:14:00] new understandings of them together so that we actually are creating. Forging a new relationship with between our bodies, our ancestries, our descendants, and mother Earth in all of our relations. So

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: that's what I see is happening. That's what I feel is happening.

Kara Goodwin: Well, that's really profound, all of the different experiences that you've had and how they kind of have that, a lot of 'em have that common thread of the, of shaman, excuse me, of shamanism. Um, you started to talk about the plant consciousness, and I know you were going into like plant medicine as we tend to know it in terms of psychedelics.

Um, I'm curious about the role of animal and plant consciousness. In terms of human spiritual awakening and how you see that role, and in my mind. That could include your traditional psychedelic plant, plant medicine. But I believe plant medicine goes way beyond, you know, the [00:15:00] psychedelics. Um, you know, I love homeopathy, for example, which has a lot of plant intelligence as part of it, and almost like counterintuitive plant, plant intelligence because the, the quote unquote physically weaker, you make it.

The stronger it is. But, um, when we talk about animal and plant consciousness, in terms of spiritual awakening, what comes up for you?

Kerri: Yeah. Thank you for that. Um, you know, one of the initiations with the moon, Ike, that Alberto and Dome well. Worked on together. It's called the iy. Carpi. IY means right relationship or harmony. They also call it the harmony, right? And in that right, you receive energetic seeds of four primary animal archetypes in your chakras, and that's to support your awakening process. So in the root chakra, you receive Satya mama. Or serpent. that energetic helps awaken your Kundalini energy. [00:16:00] Also grounding you to Mother Earth, cleaning out your instinctive center in your root chakra to release, um, fear, you know, survival. All of this fear-based stuff from. ancestry and from many thousands of years on this planet where it's all been about fear. So Sach a Mama helps reconnect you to the Mushroom Mycelial network, the intelligence grid of Mother Earth, which is not just, you know, and the, it's like a internet highway under the earth, right? That Mother Earth creates for us to tap in or wisdom.

Kara Goodwin: What a great way to think of it. Yeah. The Mycelial Network is just, it blows my mind. Yeah.

Kerri: powerful. If you get

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: medicine with it, it's like, wow. You know, so mushrooms, that's why mushrooms are a great, um, a great medicine to take because they help awaken that in you. But Satya mama also is an energetic seed, so people who are like, I don't know about plant medicine, I'm scared by that.

Okay. How about some energy medicine? You can [00:17:00] receive Sache mama in your root chakra. She will start working with you as you work with her. She works with you. She opens up all your blocks to receiving all your blocks, to connecting your separation constructs. She helps open up your Kundalini energy life force.

She goes up your spine, opens all that up so that you have. energy is flowing now, earth to sky and sky to earth. And so that's your first ally in the root chakra. And in the second chakra is jaguar, which helps you, first of all, feel protected because Jaguar is the, you know, top of the food chain in the jungle.

So very powerful, energetic, but also is a call to be a protector. Of your divine light, Jaguar calls when you call in Jaguar. Jaguar is there to protect your divine light and also to help you mulch any energies that are false and untrue. Helps you to see through the dark with clarity. See through what the toll tech call the smoky mirror, help you see through that smoky mirror of [00:18:00] perception to the truth of things. Jaguar will help you release aspects of your identity are not serving you, that are getting in the way of you accessing your divine self. It helps you with so many things. Jaguar is such a great ally, is one of my favorite, and then we go into the will center and that helps you with hummingbird, helps you to open up your soul nectar, helps you open up that divine synchronicity that that trance state that we're life becomes a dream where you realize that all of life is animated and alive. Hummingbird opens that up for you, opens up hope and inspiration and your soul connection so that you remember that this is all but a dream. Of your soul. very powerful to work with Hummingbird. Hummingbird is one of the first allies that came to me, and obviously my name is Carrie Hummingbird because it came to me in a dream.

It was like, hi, I'm your ally. And there was like this rainbow light hummingbird at the end of this vision that I did not expect, and it was like, whoa. That [00:19:00] spirit, you know, one of

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Well, and then your podcast is Soul Nectar too, which you were saying Hummingbird is a soul nectar, so I'm like, oh. It all is like very, you're very entwined with it. Yeah.

Kerri: Hummingbird is a

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: ally and helped me taste an nectar, you know, of my life and my soul and, and make everything meaningful and sacred and beautiful in my life. And that's the medicine of Hummingbird and. eagle condor in the heart chakra to open up your heart, help you to fly high in the sky with your bear intelligence, your divine light, your heart open. You can fly high and you can see a bigger picture. You can see the causes and effects. You can look down to the details and see, oh, that's because of this larger pattern that's been going on in my ancestry. You know, things like that. Right? And then when you can see with Eagle, you're, you see from a different perspective and it's not quite so. In the trenches, you know, where you get stuck and blocked and confused, like it lets you [00:20:00] lift above all that so you can see with greater clarity. And then there's, in that any carpi, there's also the lower world guide in your throat chakra, the middle world in your third eye and the upper world in your work with, you know, the three levels of consciousness as well. But yeah, animal allies, oh my gosh. Embodied animal allies. They're powerful. And then every time I lead a group program. This is something the PowerPath does, which I love is they have an animal totem for that group program and in their program you, they do drum journey and then everybody sees the animal ally and then they kind of have some group negotiation.

They decide what it is. In mine, it just always drops in. So I don't know if that's because I'm a manifester by design, but always know what the ally is and even if I try to avoid it. One year we had Coyote and I was like, no Coyote, no Cote, no thank you. And it, it literally, coyote walked in [00:21:00] front of one of our students' cars for two miles down a two lane road back to her house and would not leave until she got to her place.

It was like telling her it's coyote.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Kerri: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: So what is it that you didn't, what were you resisting with the coyote?

Kerri: Coyote is wild medicine. You know, it's, uh, chaos. It's the unexpected. It's like it's gonna. Pull the rug out from underneath you over and over so that you get land in, the truth of things, right? In your soul's intelligence. It's really truly a soul medicine, which the personality obviously is. Like, I don't really want the rug pulled out from

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: You know, like, I don't need big lessons like that. You know? I'd like a more relaxed journey. But if you're with Coyote, it's not gonna be like that. It's gonna be wild, it's gonna be tumultuous. You're gonna face a lot of stuff. Things are gonna go wonky. You are gonna say, it shouldn't be so, and then you're gonna find out that was [00:22:00] exactly perfect. So it's very humbling. It's very humbling medicine and it can, it can cause what looks like trouble, but actually it's good trouble.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Kerri: our coyote groups were fantastic and they're all graduated everyone. So if you come, you don't have to work with Coyote this year. Coyote might still show up. It does for some people because it's in the space, you know, it's in our community. But we, uh, right now we're working with Wolf, which is a, you know, a cousin of coyote. But Wolf has got a very different energy. It's, um, more pack oriented. Um, very sensitive, very intuitive, very connected. A lot of divine feminine energy and also wisdom, you know, like wolf is not easily fold. By, by illusions. And so it's a good medicine for right now, given that we're in a time of illusion, um, dismantling right wolf can lead us through the dark woods and go, you don't have anything to be afraid of here, because [00:23:00] in the dark has any real power of its own.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: show you,

Kara Goodwin: Ooh, I love that. Does anything, has Bayer been something that's come up recently in your world from this perspective?

Kerri: from time to time and says. Be still

Kara Goodwin: Well. Hibernate Well, but yeah, we would be entering that time. Right. I, I had an interesting session with somebody and, you know, she was leading the session. I'd never been with like her before. I, she was new to me and, and she was, we were in the Akash and she was like telling me to like that there were these orbs that were there and they were guides of the oracle or of the Akash.

She's like, just if there's anything that you wanna share of what comes up. And the only thing that I could get was bear, bear, bear, bear. And it doesn't mean a lot to me. I mean, I think bears are beautiful [00:24:00] and you know, they've got a lot of, of, uh. They've got a lot of mysticism and so forth with them, but I personally don't necessarily feel drawn to bears.

But from that point, then for several days everything was bare everywhere I turned, you know, and it was like, and then I, I had, I gave a healing session to somebody. And I was sharing with her, like as soon as I started the session, I saw that there was a bear statue by her front door that I hadn't seen because when I walked in it was kind of behind the door.

And then when I started I was like, oh my god, bear. And then I shared that with her and she had the two bear stories for that had just shown up. And um, so it's just been. That has, when I think of animals, I'm like, oh, for me right now, like Bear just has been really strong. So I just thought, well, you're deeply immersed in animal consciousness.

Kerri: I, I actually had a, an experience with Bear that was [00:25:00] terrifying and profound. Um, my partner and I came, we went to Arkansas. On a journey. And, uh, we were camping at an, an Airbnb spot. Somebody had a house, but they hadn't built one yet, so they just made a camping spot and put it on Airbnb. So we're like, okay. So we camped in that spot and it was on a five acre parcel in a place of. the woods, like in the mountains near Eureka Springs. And uh, so we set up camp and I always open sacred space when I set up camp. And so I opened sacred space. I called on the four directions. I called on the earth and sky. I called on all the animals, including bear, you know, I just said, okay, we're here. Thank you for welcoming us. And then we went to town for dinner. when we came back. I'd had a glass of wine or something, right? So I was kind of tipsy and then I lit the fire, but I lit it with accelerant and I normally use olive oil, and so it like nearly singed my face off.

Kara Goodwin: Oh wow.

Kerri: I was having this moment of like, ah, you know, like. [00:26:00] Oh my God. And, and then I was just kind of grounding back from that experience. 'cause I had singe, you know, some of my hair and I was sitting back and I was like, well that was intense and the fire was lit. Obviously we're sitting around it and all of a sudden we hear behind us

Kara Goodwin: Like a growl.

Kerri: no, just like a massive Moving around the earth, like walking around on the outside of the firelight. Behind us. I look at a came and my eyes must be big as saucers. I'm like, my first instinct was, turn the light on. Like, I dunno, but you know, like a little kid, right?

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: And he is looking at, he's like, there's no light, you know, like just ground. Don't be scared. And so I'm like, okay. I'm like grounding my energy. 'cause I'm thinking, well it's over anyway. Like if it wants to kill us, it's done right. So [00:27:00] just. Don't be afraid. then I, I felt its energy. I used my energy, right? My energy sensing skills and I felt it. And I was like, this thing is mess. It was like a than our car. And it was walking, you could feel the earth rumble under its feet, you know, and then the little twigs would snap, you know, that he had stepped on and it would huff. It was huffing. It wasn't, you know, growling, but it was huffing and. When I tuned into this massive presence, I just felt like this is God walking the earth.

Like it's like an ocean inside a little sack. You know, like it's that massive inside of itself. It's got so much God force that it's just like this. Ocean inside this sack of flesh. Wow. And it satisfied itself with its curiosity. Walked around and then just trundled on off. And that was that. We never even saw it, [00:28:00] but boy,

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Kerri: I felt it.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Oh my goodness. Yeah.

Kerri: You know, like, dang, you know,

Kara Goodwin: my goodness. Yeah.

Kerri: to have that experience. I mean, I'll never forget how powerful Bear is.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. Well, and so talk, tell us more about plant consciousness too and, and how the two, you know, I don't know if you work together, plant and animal consciousness or they each have their place or, but how do you work with plant consciousness?

Kerri: They can work together. Um, ayahuasca is a really powerful plant that many people have heard of at this point. And personally in my, um, experience, I personally like to study with the shamans who really understand that medicine, right. So I prefer to go to the jungle to work directly with the shamans [00:29:00] who have worked with this medicine through their ancestry for generations.

I feel like they really understand that medicine so much better than me as a western person. And I do also intend at some point, maybe I could facilitate that medicine if I was, you know, sort of. Approved, you know, by them, so to speak. You know what I'm saying? Like if I got to a place in my development that I could actually facilitate that.

Right now I feel like that's not true. So I just still hang out and, you know, learn from them. I feel like Ayahuasca is a really powerful medicine that once you've ingested Ayahuasca one time, It's in your body now. It's in your physical matrix, it's in your cells. Its intelligence has merged with your body's intelligence. you don't actually need to take any more of it, but you could go on journey with it and you could talk to this plant and learn from this plant lot without ever even ingesting it again. it's really a [00:30:00] powerful. Awakening plant, and has a lot of power to help you integrate not only the medicine of other plants, but also of animal allies. And the last time that I was in the jungle, I was actually, um, integrating with Jaguar, spirit of Jaguar, um, integrating that energetic from the jungle into my body and my mind and my heart and my, my own spirit. And also I had this like, oh. Tete Owl would like to show me how OWL sees. And so on the journey, I was able to see how OWL sees through owl's eyes.

That was cool. And then it so happened that we were teaching, um, a group program with owl. We had two programs. Um, one of them just graduated with owl, but OWL is a really powerful mess. Um, messenger and, um, medicine of Rebirth and of. Looking through the darkness to see the truth of [00:31:00] things and clearing away fears and, um, and learning to fly.

I mean, it's just powerful rebirth medicine and owl. And I remember as it was, this owl energy was coming in because I said yes to it. I said, yes, I'd like to see through owl's eyes. I, of course, I wanna know what that's like. I, my stomach started like. Kind of like, like kind of upset stomach, like kind of grumbling and moving around.

And I asked the shaman about it after, and he said, yes. It's, it's integrating, like the plant is

Kara Goodwin: Oh

Kerri: with owl consciousness basically. So

Kara Goodwin: wow.

Kerri: they, the plants and the animals, they all work together. And, and one interesting thing when Jaguar, um, integrated with me is, I asked Jaguar, you know, I mean, did you leave your body, you in order to integrate with me?

Because that seems I might feel bad about that, right? Because a lot of [00:32:00] times we feel bad if an animal dies and many times. animals, deer, they will run across in front of cars and things like that, then they'll die, right? And then we feel terrible. They're actually giving medicine to the person whose car they hit.

That person needs help. And so they'll actually sacrifice themselves, um, for the people. For us, you know, to help us. And so I was like, oh, I hope you didn't do that for me. I, I would feel bad, you know? And actually the message I got was that the animal world, they don't think about that the same way that we do, that there's just energy transference.

That their consciousness, their energy can actually move around between different kinds of forms and just. You know, experience different types of life. You know, they'll have this life in this body, and then they'll go transfer over into another body and have that life as that body, and then they'll transfer.

It's very like [00:33:00] neutral. It's just energy moving around and having different experiences, which actually is the same for us. It's just that when we get into a human vessel, then we start having attachment the identity, the personality, the life form that we are, who we think we are. We get really attached. To this body, this face, this life, this story that we live. then we get really, you know, defensive of it. But that's not how the rest of the animal and plant world is.

Kara Goodwin: Well, I love how you're talking about that, that symbiosis and that give and take and how, you know, we think of it as like, I don't wanna take. Your energy and then you don't have it anymore. So I hope you haven't sacrificed yourself for me. And then the way that you're explaining it of is like, no, then I become a part of something new and I get to experience it that way.

And that really, really resonates with me right now. Not in terms of animals necessarily, but there's this aspect I've been integrating of [00:34:00] a former, of a previous life of mine in ancient Greece that has just shown up like. So in my face, and there maybe have been whispers of it and hints of it over time, but in the last like week or so, it's just been front and center and there have been all these like synchronicities and these different ways that it's shown up.

And for me, something that kind of came to me yesterday was that I am, because I've kind of. Been welcoming and integrating this part. Like, okay, thank you for showing up and, and you know, please make yourself more known and integrate and come in. And, and then I, I considered it from the other side where I was like, I wonder, because of course it's all happening now, you know, even though this would be in antiquity, but there is that version of me that's living in antiquity in Greece.[00:35:00] 

Who I believe is connecting with a future version of herself. And it was wild for me to think of like this, how it's showing up for me right now and how like. Like there's this bizarre sense to it all because it's so metaphysical and, and then I'm, I'm then considering from the living side of this living woman who is then like, has this future person, you know, who's like.

Maybe sort of even looks like her. That's the sense that I have. And, you know, trying to integrate that. And maybe that's even more a part of their culture that they, you know, there's a lot. I don't know. So it could be that that's just like, yeah, of course. But there's also the possibility where it's like, I feel like I'm.

I feel like I'm connecting with this person from like, you know, like thousands of years in the future. And, um, [00:36:00] you know, what that might feel like too and you know, what kind of medicine she has for me, what medicine I might, I might have for her that the whole like, but again, back to the symbiosis of we have our own perspective and, and how things like can integrate, but then we also have.

An offering as well, and it goes both ways. So.

Kerri: Yeah, it's true. I mean, there is time. an illusion. This is the, we're in the, what the Carroll people call the Pacha mama. And pacha means the intersection of time and space. And so we're in the Pacha mama, the mother of the intersection of time and space. And this intersection of time and space gives us this experience, this illusion of past and present and future, right?

Gives us this river of time that we can travel on. But it's, it's, uh. It's a construct, it's a map. It's a something that allows us to experience ourselves, but all of it's happening at the same time. And you come [00:37:00] to that awareness when you access the timeless one within you. That's beyond time, that's beyond the pama. You access, the part of you that knows all of its incarnations happening simultaneously across whatever time it's happening.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: the pcha, within the Pache Mama, it's all sequential. Like it's all within a timeline within, but only within the Pache mama. Outside of that, if you're accessing yourself of the Pache mama, then you can become aware of that.

It's all happening at the same time.

Kara Goodwin: Right.

Kerri: And

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: it does influence, because you can actually, this is one of the things we do in inter medicine training. 'cause you know, sometimes people have patterns, right? That they would like to clear because they don't wanna bring that into new earth. You know, we're like, we're done with this whole paradigm.

We don't wanna keep repeating this. then, so we'll actually go back to the grandmother's womb where the egg of you was formed and we'll clear those [00:38:00] patterns out. the way through to when you were in a, in the womb and then all the way back out, all of your development up until this current moment. And we'll just clear all that out and then bring it at a higher frequency, which the gene keys is the gift frequency. So we'll just rebirth everything through the gift frequency and then that not only changes things for you and the other life, you know, but it also changes it. All the way through, you know, and that ripples out to ancestors. You know, you do ancestral healing, you're, you're working with ancestors who made choices that maybe they see now beyond the veil. They wouldn't have made that choice. We bring some healing to that. We make a new choice and then that also changes the whole timeline. I mean, that can lift like literally the entire timeline to a higher frequency just by doing ancestral healing work, which changes the whole expression of your life today.

It, it

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: everything that you're experiencing. It makes it all [00:39:00] show, and it can be a little freaky when that happens because party, you still remembers the way it was, but then everybody else is showing up different.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: Because you got, you did this powerful healing and all of a sudden whatever it was before is not a thing for them anymore, and they don't even remember the other thing.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: That's when you know, you're like, okay, I really just did some major magic, because

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: don't even remember that that happens.

Kara Goodwin: Yes.

Kerri: that's done.

Kara Goodwin: That's, that's so amazing. And it's so interesting that you bring this up because I'm reading, uh, Greg Braden's Divine Matrix book, and he's somebody who's come on, come on strong in my scene in the last like month or so where I, I knew who he was, but it, I wasn't engaging in his work and now I'm like getting so much from his work and he is like everywhere I turn at the moment.

But he was talking about this quantum. Lab experiment where [00:40:00] they were, um, they were changing the past from a quantum perspective where it was like they didn't know how the experiment started, but they, after it finished, they observed it and intended. How it started and then that would change. That would dictate how it started.

So let's say there were two different ways that, and I'm sure it was like particle wave type of, you know, this is the sort of territory that you get into with a lot of quantum physics things, but it can be complicated. So I might be getting some details. Wrong because I was like, what? This is really hard to understand, even though he's making it as simple as it could be, but you know, let's just say it's a particle or wave and you can start one or the other and nobody is, and and of course from quantum science, we know that the observer, it changes everything.

And so nobody observes it until the end. And when they observe it, they put the intention of what. The which one, [00:41:00] which way it started. And that dictates then through observation. They know that it's, that is how it starts. So it's really wild. That might be complicated to follow, but it's like in a lab, they're proving that our intention and uh, the what we do now can go back and affect the past and.

What's fascinating for, for me personally with my own experience is that then I read that right before I went to bed. The dream that I was having before I woke up this morning is I was looking. At this wall and it had all this artwork on it. And I, and I started to realize that I'd created all this artwork.

And it was all these like different sizes. Some of them were like bigger canvases. Some of them were just like more like postcard shaped stuff. And they, I liked how they were all arranged and the different colors that were coming through. And then I started, uh, with the biggest, most recent one, I was putting [00:42:00] a solvent over it.

All that I had done was to start to put the. This white paint on it. So I hadn't really started to design anything, but it was starting with almost like a primer and I was putting a solvent over that. And um, so that the canvas, I was clearing off the paint that had been on there and I was gonna start over.

And that was really the. There was another painting in the similar thing. I think I was further along and it was like, once I'm done with this one, I'm doing the same thing with that one so that I can kind of recreate this one. And I was like, wow. When I woke up, I was writing down my dreams and I was like, well, this one, it seems very relevant to what I was reading last night about.

You know, the ability to change the past. And so it's this, okay, well I started this and it's already, you know, you, for all intents and purposes, if something's already on a canvas, you would think it's, it's on its way to being finished and permanent, you know, but I, I had some sort of solvent that could [00:43:00] dissolve it, so I could get it back to the clean canvas so that I could start again.

And I was like, well, that, that seems pretty. Symbolic there of the, the truth of that, you know, experiment beyond the lab, so.

Kerri: Well, yeah. Mean, we are actually running a lot of experiments to, we have been for quite a while, multi-dimensionally running experiments to see how to evolve human consciousness to the place where we become ho, luminous. And we get out of this, I don't know, place in the forest where it's stagnant and no one repeating. Um. The things that we see in the world, you know, the fear-based constructs. I feel like we've been running a lot of experiments to see how do we work with the egoic construct to, to get it to higher consciousness and let go, right? And, and so we can co manifest these beautiful dreams [00:44:00] of new earth that we're all wanting to bring in to being. And as you know, the ego is very. Um, it's, it's got a lot of aspects to it to tend to and to bring it, you know, back into alignment and harmony with a lot of love and grace. And so it, um, yeah. We get to play around in that little Rubik's cube for a while,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Kerri: you know, so, yeah. And you know, so, and people have a lot of

Kara Goodwin: I.

Kerri: of talking about what's going on and maybe they have a different, you know, in their subconscious dream they might. Attribute different aspects to this consciousness as different names, you know? So you have some that are giving them names of different aliens and they look like this and they're like this, right? And so that's like their dream, like that's how they represent these aspects of [00:45:00] consciousness. You might have other people who represent the aspects of consciousness through gender or through race or through. You know, different qual qualities of consciousness, but all of it's basically we're working with the egoic construct to bring it into some harmony and balance so we can actually lift it to the higher octave and forward in a higher consciousness in a human vessel, not as ho homo sapien, but as homo luminous.

Kara Goodwin: I love it. Well, and that I, I do wanna touch on this before we wrap up. You know, you mentioned the, that there might be, like in the dream there might be some galactic representation. I would love to know the role of galactic wisdom, because this has been a very earth-based. Conversation with the shamanism and the medicine of the Earth and the plants and the animals.

Is there any role that galactic wisdom plays in, in your work [00:46:00] or in your, has played in your awakening?

Kerri: Yeah. In my dream of life, it absolutely does. I, work with White Eagle, who is a aspect of the higher consciousness for Earth School. So like a teacher guide? Yes. Ben Yosef and. Mother, Mary Guadalupe, whatever, you know, Nansen, there's so many names for the goddess, but higher consciousness of the planet has sort of governing body of teachers. so white Eagle's part of that, and that's my over soul. So I'm a creation of that consciousness and. Yen is part of that. I love qua y Anyway, so we can work with those various energies at the higher of teaching aspect of the planet. Right. The what? 'cause this is Earth School. So those would be like the teachers and then there's the [00:47:00] galactic council that Yeah.

Is deciding what we're going to do now. Like what's, what does new Earth look like? And it, it is a playground so. We've been experiencing a certain set of lessons up until now on the planet, right, which have been very much about not realizing one's divinity and being, um, only confined to think of oneself as temporary human right.

And that's, which is great, but that's all right. Like there's no other. Soul aspect or anything like that. Like just, I'm in a human body and all I am is human and I'm an animal and this is what I am. there's been that and we've, we've gotten to see like what are the potentials we could create from that level of consciousness.

Now we're moving into, oh, I'm five D. Oh, I'm a soul and a body. I have a timeless aspect within me. This is a temporary. I've [00:48:00] had many lifetimes. Here's what they all are like, and then the awareness of like you're talking about, of like, oh my gosh, I'm having this lifetime and this one and this one. So you're getting like to reclaim yourself by recognizing all the places that your soul is playing for the last 2000 years on the river of time, which is in timelessness doesn't mean anything. But in the PAMA it has a lot of meaning. So yeah. Now we are lifting the veil, so to speak. To be able to have these awarenesses of self beyond current temporary incarnation. And that is a whole new ball of wax. 'cause now you get to play with things like quantum physics. Like, oh, what happens when I change this? Oh, for my timeless self, what happens if I shift this? Oh, what's gonna happen to that whole timeline if I do this? that's kind of like taking the training wheels off. Bicycle and then you get to learn to ride the bicycle. But you have to know like every single [00:49:00] thought, and this is why it's starting to get like karma. Some people talk about it that way, like instant results, you know, you, your thoughts your reality. Your beliefs influence your reality. actions definitely influence your reality. So all of it, you know, when you're. Creating goals and intentions. That's the way that you can play with this energy because when you have a goal or intention, you set an intent. Now you have something you're working to create, and then the universe can start bringing you, this PAMA can start bringing you, oh, you want this? Well, in that case, here's who you need to be and, and I'm gonna help you walk the steps to. Become that right, which you already are in your timeless self, but in this current slice in your incarnation, you're not right, because that's

Kara Goodwin: [00:50:00] Mm-hmm.

Kerri: so that you would follow it. Because it's an experiment to see, can you find your way back to yourself? Can you find your way back to your eternal nature? So we're

Kara Goodwin: I love it.

Kerri: a law of attraction, all of that. We've been given little baby pieces to digest along the way so that we can understand how things work piece by piece. But yet now we're getting to, you know, actually paint the canvas,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Kerri: right?

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful. Thank you. Well, Carrie, this has been such a wonderful discussion. Please tell people how they can find you and connect with you deeper.

Kerri: Yes, uh, well, you can go to my website, keri hummingbird.com, K-E-R-R-I hummingbird.com, and then there's a I believe it says gifts that has a whole bunch of things you can get and get on my email list and receive. You can receive an inner medicine meditation pack. There's a lot of [00:51:00] things you could receive, so just gifts, and then just pick the thing you wanna receive and then you can receive it.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Well, thank you so much. What a beautiful discussion. I'm so happy to have connected with you today. Thank you.

Kerri: fun. Thanks for doing this trade with me. It was really, you guys should come check out the interview over there. It was great. Both of them

Kara Goodwin: Yeah,

Kerri: I wish we had recorded the first one, but

Kara Goodwin: I know. Yeah. Yeah. I'll put the link to that in the notes when this, when, when I launch this so that people can access that too.

Kerri: is beautiful, Kara. It's

Kara Goodwin: Oh, thank you so much. Thank you. Bless you. Thank you.

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